It’s not a new relationship. Instead, it dates back approximately 100 years. In the 1920s, a pamphlet from the U.S. National Dairy Council explained: “The people who have used liberal amounts of milk and its products … ” — meaning white people — “… are progressive in science and every activity of the human intellect.”
I didn't set up any strawmen. Those are all straight from the video. I'm just asking for that rigor that people seem so fond of.
So you don't actually have an actual argument to put forward then? You're just going to adopt a passive aggressive contrarian stance?
I disagree. These biases come from our culture, and we can change our culture, but only if we want to.
Why should anyone take inequality and injustice sitting down? And please tell me what "strict, often unfair policies" she is introducing? Be specific. What is she doing to restrict your opinion or your expression of it?
What do you mean by that, specifically "the balancing act of fair treatment"?
What solution would be damaging to whom?
Where is Professor Riley trying to make anything illegal? Is she campaigning to repeal the 1st Amendment? I must have missed that part. And what the hell is wrongthink? Why would you want to be wrong?
Who is they? I thought you were criticizing Professor Riley?
I didn't hear Riley talk about the pure and right side of history. Who or what are you talking about?
What wholesome values were quietly reclassified as ugly prejudices? Be specific.
What speech has made you a criminal? Again, be specific. Include the relevant statutes, regulations, etc.
Who's going to exclude you for using the wrong pronoun? I know I"m being repetitive, but be specific.
Your presence is no longer required? Who is planning to remove anyone from society? (Yes, be specific.)
Who's telling you you can't speak? I'm arguing with you, sure. I'm exercising MY RIGHT to free speech. But I'm not saying you can't speak.
Who believes that hurting someone's feelings is on par with cracking a skull? (BE SPECIFIC! WHERE DID ANYONE SAY THIS?)
What petititions are circulating to shut you up or down? Or anybody?
What law protects feelings?
Were you banned from social media? And is someone actually purging dangerous fascist throwbacks from society? (BE SPECIFIC!)Quote
I've had minor suspensions for saying something, but I know people who have been banned off the platform simply for taking a somewhat unpopular opinion.
Now I've got to go, feel free to make a v2 and I will ping it right back.
These biases are opinions, held by individuals.
She is stating that an art and skill that I love and wish to master should be irreversibly changed because it requires a large amount of effort to perfect.
I never discriminated against anyone, and I don't think it's fair that I might have to be punished for the crimes of people that just happened to be the same colour.
... she is trying to put drastic action (possibly completely rewriting the field of engineering)
I am criticizing Riley, as well as every other SJW out there. They campaign about how they are fighting inequality in our civilization, and how their opinions are the sole opinions to a brighter tomorrow. They act as if someone who disagrees with them must be a monster, because no good person would try to argue against what is so obviously freedom.
The idea that anybody with any idea may just very well have a valid opinion?
There are more than one types of criminal. I think what he is referring to is thought crime (same thing as wrongthink). Anything that goes against someone else's narrative.
I know many places where if I were to walk in, and intentionally call a few specific peoples by an assumed or wrong pronoun, I would be immediately kicked out of the building, if not banned from the group or organization. It's happened before.
This was somewhat of a metaphor on his part. He was stating that a lot of arguments made, a lot of ideas presented, in fact exactly like the one Riley has made, seeks to kick out people who hold traditional values on Engineering, like the idea of putting effort into your work.
Again, there are people who have blocked me, reported me, tried to get me banned off websites because my opinions didn't match theirs, and they couldn't handle the fact that I presented rational arguments and they didn't.
Besides the classic "Misgendering someone is violence", find it yourself, I have to go in like 7 minutes, I have known people who have taken mundane things as personal insults that requires instant removal of my personal life from this world.
Have you been to change.org recently?
Social law. Break it and it may be even worse than going to prison.
I've had minor suspensions for saying something, but I know people who have been banned off the platform simply for taking a somewhat unpopular opinion.
These biases are opinions, held by individuals.Biases aren't necessarily opinions, especially implicit biases. You may be completely unaware of them.
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I can only guess what that means.
You should be so butthurt and have so much free time to write all of these posts. I guess you are not of a type who's time is occupied by doing a lot of work or occupied with hobby when you have a free time. Exactly someone from a "better" world this professor wants to create.
You should be so butthurt and have so much free time to write all of these posts. I guess you are not of a type who's time is occupied by doing a lot of work or occupied with hobby when you have a free time. Exactly someone from a "better" world this professor wants to create.
You post about 30 times as often as I do. Good ad hominem example BTW.
You should be so butthurt and have so much free time to write all of these posts. I guess you are not of a type who's time is occupied by doing a lot of work or occupied with hobby when you have a free time. Exactly someone from a "better" world this professor wants to create.
You post about 30 times as often as I do. Good ad hominem example BTW.My posts are way shorter and mostly about electronics, not SJW whines.
If electronics issues are more important than issues of social justice, why did you post in this thread three times?
If electronics issues are more important than issues of social justice, why did you post in this thread three times?Why in the last 220 days, every of your post except two which are very short is super long pro SJW post?
Funny but your data is wrong. You are showing a marked lack of rigor in your post.
Where's all the rigor? Why can't people who whine about rigor get any specifics right?
Funny but your data is wrong. You are showing a marked lack of rigor in your post.
Where's all the rigor? Why can't people who whine about rigor get any specifics right?Really? Look on your posts in your profile. You made 2 very short posts since July 18, and then today a bunch of posts in this tread which are long as never before. Seems this tread is attractive like shit for flies.
Funny but your data is wrong. You are showing a marked lack of rigor in your post.
Where's all the rigor? Why can't people who whine about rigor get any specifics right?Really? Look on your posts in your profile. You made 2 very short posts since July 18, and then today a bunch of posts in this tread which are long as never before. Seems this tread is attractive like shit for flies.Yes, really. You're being rather selective. Why since July 18? I've made around 40 posts in the last year, and about 10 of them in this thread today. But what difference does that make? Is there a rule against longer posts? What if my only posts were on this topic? Irrelevant. You lack rigor.
Funny but your data is wrong. You are showing a marked lack of rigor in your post.
Where's all the rigor? Why can't people who whine about rigor get any specifics right?Really? Look on your posts in your profile. You made 2 very short posts since July 18, and then today a bunch of posts in this tread which are long as never before. Seems this tread is attractive like shit for flies.Yes, really. You're being rather selective. Why since July 18? I've made around 40 posts in the last year, and about 10 of them in this thread today. But what difference does that make? Is there a rule against longer posts? What if my only posts were on this topic? Irrelevant. You lack rigor.What I said in the beginning is that you are butthurt. Why otherwise you would write as many words as anything previous combined together, after basically abandoning the forum. Moreover in a tread which is not directly electronics related and on the electronics forum. I would guess you made a ton of posts somewhere else until this rare opportunity came by.
I suppose that means I care about this topic. Why does that bother you so much?
Oh, the irony. This white guy is exactly the kind of engineer who does well in his job despite admittedly poor grades in a technical discipline because of good communication skills and "deomonstration of creativity" and his certification in Sigma 6, a soft science of production and proofing concepts based pretty much on real world hindsight, which require no mastery of higher science or math. If he were an ethnic female, he would be this professor's poster child.
which require no mastery of higher science or math
Can anyone explain to me what value Riley’s ideologies add to an engineer’s education?
Can engineers expect a better chance of getting a job, or a better career from it, and if so how?
If you are a white male in US, then your kind is heavily underrepresented on engineering or software jobs compared to percentage of whites in population generally.
If you are a white male in US, then your kind is heavily underrepresented on engineering or software jobs compared to percentage of whites in population generally.
She is stating that an art and skill that I love and wish to master should be irreversibly changed because it requires a large amount of effort to perfect.That is not what she said. Her interview is here:
Can anyone explain to me what value Riley’s ideologies add to an engineer’s education?Adding a social justice dimension to the education helps in making one aware of the impact your profession has on the world at large. Are your design choices good for the environment? The patient? Are you creating an addictive product? Does it kill people or save lives? Does it reduce pain? Bring people together? More concretely, think products like VW "Clean Diesel", Monsanto's dicamba, or Facebook and Twitter. It's encouraging one to think beyond the assignment, beyond profit.
QuoteCan engineers expect a better chance of getting a job, or a better career from it, and if so how?I doubt it would help anyone get a better salary. Thinking of others doesn't seem to pay well. It might help one choose a path with which they can sleep better.