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http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/9780521370950
Do you know who sell Asian version?
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Try http://abebooks.com and look for sellers in India. If they're cheap ($20), it'll be the Asian version.
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But, will the Asian version last for more than 5 years under moderate use, something like twice a week?
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Hello, everyone.
I'm sure everyone has been excitely waiting the end of the year for news of the third edition (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3473.0) So, I've taken it upon myself to ask for an update and surprise I got a response christmas morning. So, here's a christmas present for the electronics community
I asked "I was wondering if there's an update to when you think the 3rd edition might be out? "
And the response I got was as follows:
We're getting closer. For example, we broke the
old 80-page precision and low-noise Chapter 7 into
two, both greatly-expanded with massive cool stuff.
We submitted Chapter 5, Precision Circuits, last
summer, and it was 135 pages long. This week
we're finishing Chapter 8, Low-Noise Techniques,
and we expect it to be about 130 pages. So that's
about 3x more great material, on just those two
topics! We expect y'all will love it.
In January we'll submit chapter 9, Power Design -
it's almost done now, and then we'll have submitted
15 chapters, leaving five more "x" chapters to go.
I think I mentioned the x chapters, with their extra,
more-advanced material, so we certainly don't want
to short-change them! Anyway, three of those are
more than half done, and we hope to have submitted
everything by next summer.
That means the book should be out by late 2012 or
early 2013.
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- Win
Winfield Hill
Rowland Institute at Harvard
100 Edwin Land Blvd
Cambridge, MA 02142
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This is good news, but well crafted products are never rushed, and given so many false starts, we'll see how this goes.
Meanwhile the 1989 version can be had second hand for under $50 at used textbook depots:
http://www.textbookx.com/detail.php?utm_source=Froogle&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=price_comp&affiliate=froogle&action=buy&upc=9780521370950&cond=exchange&price=41.83
And warez versions litter the Internet so you prevue before you buy. The book is near 1000 pages, so if you tried printing it with a laser printer at $0.010.10 a page, it will still run you $100, you could buy a new version for that money.
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Isn't that ten dollars? (.01 * 1000 = 10.00)
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Isn't that ten dollars? (.01 * 1000 = 10.00)
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I wouldn't want a laser printed "book" even if I were stealing paper from work.
I suppose a color laser page would be 10 cents (.10) so that would be a grand. At work, they tell us a color print costs 7 cents. I'm not sure i believe it. -
Isn't that ten dollars? (.01 * 1000 = 10.00)
Never let the facts get in the way of making a point!
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Sorry, typo, error corrected. That should be 10c a page, not 1c. That's based on Kinkos B&W per page price, typically the price is more.
http://faq.bloglines.com/ref/Kinko%27s-Prices.html
If you own a personal laser printer, chances are its original makers cartridge would sell between $50-100 each, for ~ 3000 pages; that would be about 3c page, or $30. YMMV depending if you can use remanufactured cartridges or refill original ones.Isn't that ten dollars? (.01 * 1000 = 10.00)
Never let the facts get in the way of making a point!
Touche...LMFAO!! -
Sorry, typo, error corrected. That should be 10c a page, not 1c. That's based on Kinkos B&W per page price, typically the price is more.
http://faq.bloglines.com/ref/Kinko%27s-Prices.html
If you own a personal laser printer, chances are its original makers cartridge would sell between $50-100 each, for ~ 3000 pages; that would be about 3c page, or $30. YMMV depending if you can use remanufactured cartridges or refill original ones.
Indeed, printing can be quite painful on the wallet...especially when you're paying someone else to do it. Good thing Uncle Sam usually keeps a healthy supply of printer ink on benchstock.
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Amen to that! Refilling an original manufacturer brand new cartridge only cost $4 for another 3000 pages, and it works well on the 1st refill, but I don't get it past 3 refills without glitches in the printing mechanism, usually smudges and ink blobs. We've had very bad luck buying re-manufactured cartridges from consolidators, these are 'pros' who buy used cartridges, refill them and sell them at a discount, in the end it costs the same as DIY. I end up extending an original cartridge 3x its intended lifespan, so an $80 one is $80/3 +$4 for toner ~ $31 per 3000 pages from an original cartridge, re-manufactured ones cost about $35-40 each, but my labor .
Indeed, printing can be quite painful on the wallet...especially when you're paying someone else to do it. Good thing Uncle Sam usually keeps a healthy supply of printer ink on benchstock.
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Almost a year since the last update, so I emailed the author. He gracefully (and quickly!) replied:
"Moving along, still expanding. Out sometime late this year.
But you'll want to patch up and keep your 2nd edition, five
good chapters plus lots of other important stuff there, that's
gone from the 3rd edition."
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That makes me think about The Great Chinese Wall history.
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Reminds me of when I was a kid and wanted some help with my brand new playstation and final fantasy 7, but didn't want to go back and forth from the TV to the computer, and so I printed up a 700 page FAQ to have with me while I played. Thankfully toner and paper were free from my dad's work.
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There has'nt been a update in two month. can you give us some info?
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There has'nt been a update in two month. can you give us some info?
jeesh, leave poor Win alone
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Being the classic it is, printed on acid free paper would help. My book pages are turning yellow.
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Hello all,
I just emailed Winfield Hill about the status of the third edition of Art of Electronics and they've finished writing it. They now in typesetting and it should be published by late spring/early summer next year (May 2014).
And it sounds like there will be a second volume to contain all the new material that wouldn't fit in the main work at a future date.
I also posted this and previous emails on G+ (https://plus.google.com/u/1/115596717128422510188/posts)QuoteHello Mr. Hill,
I hope everything is going well for you this year. I wanted to write once again to ask about the progress of the third edition of Art of Electronics. When we spoke last year you said you were planning on cutting off writing new material at some point last year if the writing didn't finish soon. Have you finished writing and moved on to editing yet?
Several people have contacted the publisher and have gotten responses to expect the book sometime around May 2014 (so a manuscript has been submitted and everyone is well into editing), but to me that feels like researcher's saying a new technology, like graphene transistors or brain to pc interfaces, should hit the market in the next 5-10 years. A great image, but not likely.
Where do you see the book in the pipeline? I'd like to share your opinion with the community again.
The complete 15-chapter book has gone through copy-
editing and we're doing our review pass now. Then on
to typesetting (editing of our TEX text, figure placement,
etc) and then galleys, etc. So next spring looks good.
They will be an additional five chapter eXtension
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Why didn't they just make it so it has everything the second edition plus more? The way they did it is like having one phone for text messages and another for phone calls or some other concept equally as stupid.
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Presumably because there were bits of the 2nd edition that are now quite out of date? Having editions for 'core' and 'advance' materials means that you can keep reprinting the core forever, and only need to revise the advance bit as technology changes.
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Presumably because there were bits of the 2nd edition that are now quite out of date? Having editions for 'core' and 'advance' materials means that you can keep reprinting the core forever, and only need to revise the advance bit as technology changes.
"But you'll want to patch up and keep your 2nd edition, five
good chapters plus lots of other important stuff there, that's
gone from the 3rd edition."
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I'm guessing they don't like the length of it. ie physical size of the book if it were included.
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I'm guessing they don't like the length of it. ie physical size of the book if it were included.
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Well at least they could reference the second edition within the third edition. Such as: "You may find more information about [topic] in this chapter of the second edition." That way, the two books can easily be combined together with said references IMHO.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do just that. At least in the foreword.