All I know is that a few weeks before Christmas, a ebay search for Rigol used to produce close to 300 results, as well as 10 or more new results a day.
Currently the same search produces just under a 100 results, with no new results for today.
Its possible its just the time of year, but its not sounding like it.
yea the above rings a bell when I was trying to help a guy I used to work for in italy trade with china, their english is awful and "anything goes" trying to establish a common clothing size systen is a nightmare, you want a 12 you get a twelve, didn't matter what the real size was.
WOW!
I so wonder what's happened?!
Cheapest is now AU$600 or so, it was under $400 a few weeks back!
Dave.
they must have figured that they were selling way too cheap
And somehow convince yourself that you can trust the seller. That's where your balls of steal come into play.
I got an offer from ebay seller to complete the transaction outside of ebay. I'd rather wait and see what happens next
Dealextreme still have it for $400:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30573
Dave.
Yeah, that was the second place I checked, since the price was quite reasonable there. If nothing else comes up, I'll go for DE.
Has anyone bought from DealExtreme and/or can recommend them, or should I stick to the local (AU) retailer who at least I can call if something goes wrong..?
I don't know any aussies who have bought from Dealextreme.
Dealextreme recommend you "upgrade" to EMS courier, so that's about AU$465, compared to AU$495 from the Oz seller.
Not a huge difference there really.
But I think Purchasenet might be just a drop-shipper, so probably no local stock and shipped direct from overseas anyway(?). Might be worth asking them first.
Not sure how the warranty works either, but there is a chance that if Purchasenet are not an approved Rigol Oz seller (likely I think) then the local warranty might not be valid anyway(?).
Dave.
Thanks for your reply.
I tried to ask Purchasenet a question via their web form, but the website crashes with 505 when I click 'Submit'..!
Since there are no options on EBay anymore (unless I wish to pay $700 AUD), I think I'll just try Dealextreme and hope it works out..
Ross..
I ordered one of the Rigol's from ebay and was sent out before the auction was removed. Same explanation, dumping price. But I've just got a tracking number from them and it's out in the van now so hopefully I should have it some time today
Unfortunately all the EBay sales are now gone, except for $699+ AUD items.
Unfortunately all the EBay sales are now gone, except for $699+ AUD items.
That sucks
If it's any consolation I paid over $700 for mine, that was after the first "price crash". Little did I know they would almost half again within 6 months!
That aussie seller isn't a bad price at $500.
Dave.
Hey guys.
At work we use Alibaba as a direct link to Chinese suppliers all the time, and we do get some great deals.
I did a search for the DS1052E on there and it shows up under AliExpress fairly cheaply - i.e. < $400 AUD delivered for MOQ of 1 unit.
I have not bought one from this source, but it uses an escrow payment service so it MAY be OK.
Use with care, but I thought I'd throw it in, in case you're interested.
Check out the price of the 100MHz unit as well (a lot cheaper than ebay):
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=rigol&CatId=0PS : Got a 1052E off ebay when they were cheap (thanks for the review, Dave!) and they really are amazing value.
Hi guys,
I think I found our culprit: http://www.emona.com.au/
They have been an official Australian Rigol dealer since they that early days, they have to play by the Rigol rules.
We actually have no idea if it's even an Australian company that complained, the odds are probably not, as it's not just Australian buyers that are affected.
Dave.
It could even be Rigol themselves. In my experience Rigol is a strange company[1]. It could well be that Rigol decided they want to separate themselves from the cheap manufacturers and to establish their products are "valuable", so want to establish a minimum price barrier. Or official distributors complained to Rigol about the cheap offers and asked questions how these sellers could buy the oscilloscopes so cheap from Rigol.
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[1] I have already written elsewhere that I have trouble with Rigol regarding their DG1022 function generator PC software, so I am biased (In the rare cases I get answers that don't make sense. Latest Rigol claim: suddenly there is a "new" DG1022, but for which they also have no own software or so. I all doesn't make sense.
I wonder if this breaks any competition laws. The guys selling the oscilliscopes for $388 on ebay certainly weren't dumping. I can buy it even cheaper if I used a drop-post service. I'm not sore or anything, I ended up buying the DS1102D for ~$1400. Its just annoys me when someone can claim a seller is doing something illegal, when they themselves are illegally stopping stock from hitting the market.
i very much doubt the dumping was the ebay sellers, else they'd make no money!
more likley rigol were dumping them out to chinese suppliers who then sold them on ebay which then prompted resellers outside china to get a bit hacked off. Maybe rigol wanted to stir up some excitment about the 1052? maybe they wanted to shift a load of stock during a global rescession? Well whatever it was, it certainly worked... i bought one!
Yeah, just ordered one from DE, ~$400 for 1GS 50MHz scope is just sick, i was wondering about buying rigol, in my country (Poland) they are for about ~$600.
I wonder how cheap scopes will look in 2 years... maybe some company will relase "Open Source" scope so u can modify it's software, add features etc. that would be awesome ;]
Yea I noticed that the support side of Rigol looks a bit crap but then you get what you pay for, they can't even make software that will run on vista !
Yea I noticed that the support side of Rigol looks a bit crap but then you get what you pay for, they can't even make software that will run on vista !
Having just used the software to load a saved .wfm waveform you're probably better without the software! It took me about 20 minutes to find how to load the file, it's in a very odd place. The software seems to work fine they've just never heard of usability.
Yea I noticed that the support side of Rigol looks a bit crap but then you get what you pay for, they can't even make software that will run on vista !
Well, $700 for not getting vista or win7 software with a function generator. $150 or so would have bought me some disposable generator from some dodgy no-name Chinese company, but at least with barely working PC software. I am that ---><--- close to going ballistic on the Rigol "support". I know it won't change a iota, because it is management that is f... this up. But it will help me to keep sane. They so deserve it.
E-Mailing with their support is like pulling teeth. Rigol never volunteers information. And why the f... can't they just make new firmware available for download? Why does one almost have to b... support to get information about new firmware, and to get the firmware? And why don't they tell you what actually changed in the firmware?
I think I am now in the mood to send their "service" the mother of all rants. Just so they can have some fun on Monday. May their soldering irons fail at the most inconvenient moments.