He also claims that "overwhelming response from my customers" pushed him to develop the rectangle shape, except the poll on his own website shows the vast majority of respondents wanted the round shape
http://www.motolab.org/polls-and-surveys.htmlAnd in another lie, he claims all these publications have positive articles on his company/product
http://www.orsto.com/in-the-press.htmlWell, I have heard of Boston.com, Statesman.com and SF Business Journal. All are major publications. Guess what - a search of each of their sites turns up zero. Actually, if you do a search on plus+watch and/or Orsto and constrain the results to the past week, all you get are people reposting his own press release. I can't find a single article by anyone about his watch or company.
So just more bullshit.
It looked like a scam from the beginning. Now that the author tried to impersonate another person to spread lies it is clear this whole thing IS A SCAM and should be investigated by the police.
New crowdfunding campaing running, boy I'm glad they stopped using that really unprofessional indiegogo who removed they campaign.
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/plus-watch
I guess they are using fixed funding?
He changed the campaign, removed the video, removed info from his website
http://www.orsto.com/Another project with key information removed and he already got the money, I guess now he can actually prove to himself he can return the money if he wants to.
Or otherwise the money would be taken from him since it would be a scam.
Pictures I just got when going to his website...
Orsto X1 and X2 seem to be back.
I wonder what happened to the other chinese smartwatches he demonstrated on that removed video.
They actually looked much better than this bulky X2 thing.
Removing all info and leaving no evidence behind looks kinda dodgy. (it's internet there is always evidence left behind)
So it looks like Paul Gill has pulled the rug out from funders yet again. He has changed his website, removing all mention of the "Bliss" and "Dynamic" watch. When questioned about this on his FundAnything campaign, he states that they will not be making either of these watches, and people who pledged "will get one from his limited prototype stock", and that the campaign is now for distributorships, not watches.
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/plus-watch/commentsIt's interesting to note that someone else pointed out another Android watch that precisely matched the one he claimed to be looking for funding for. So, presumably it was another pre-existing Chinese-made Android watch that he was flogging.
And apparently now he's back to the X1/X2?
Bizarre soap opera, this.
Journalists & Reviewers
Do you want to give your readers first look and the benefit of your valuable opinion of the Plus Watch X3, pre-launch.
We will be dispatching 100 fully functional X3 prototypes for real hands-on reviews prior to the official market launch.
If you would like to be included on our list of approved reviewers, please contact us via our Contact Form or by Telephone.
In the lead up to distribution of the prototypes, we will be supplying updates and information to those journalists & reviewers, to enable them to keep their readers updated.
I wonder where he got this idea of sending samples for reviews.
I would like to see someone credible do a review, someone who doesn't do bullshit. Too bad Mr. Orsto doesn't have a good track record so credible people maybe don't want to get involved with him in any way.
Following in the footsteps of the groundbreaking X1 and X2 projects, the X3 is yet again a giant leap forward in wearable technology.
I don't think this going to be any different than what we have previously seen from Mr. Orsto, same sh*t different package. Or maybe no watch at all, like with the X1. If he actually has prototypes available in future, I wonder if he could do a real kickstarter? Atleast kickstarter removes outright scams. Or maybe no crowdfunding at all? That would be first, just sell watches on ebay or own store.
I would like to see someone credible do a review, someone who doesn't do bullshit. Too bad Mr. Orsto doesn't have a good track record so credible people maybe don't want to get involved with him in any way.
I won't touch the guy with a 10 foot pole.
Looks like Mr Gill tried to sell equity in his company on CrowdCube:
http://crowdcube.dev.crowdcube.com/investment/orsto-13749
I see "Experienced company founder Paul" is precisely that.
i.e, he knows how to file papers at Companies House, and is experienced in doing that and dissolving the companies too. We call them Phoenix Companies over here and are a well known legal scam against not just the customers/investors but the taxman as well. Quite how the government hasn't tackled this blatant fraud is beyond me. I guess MPs like to hold dodgy corporate paper structures and so enjoy their benefits too.
Also it looks like some poor mug has potentially lost an individual "investment" of £12,000 too. Ouch!
Also it looks like some poor mug has potentially lost an individual "investment" of £12,000 too. Ouch!
We can only hope said poor mug made the investment using Nigerian bitcoins.
Also it looks like some poor mug has potentially lost an individual "investment" of £12,000 too. Ouch!
We can only hope said poor mug made the investment using Nigerian bitcoins.
...are you telling me that slightly camp serf' african chap Martin Lorton is the investor, after he got bitten by the bug of ASIC BTC mining?
just read this entire thread after getting here from the "top 10 projects ppl were duped by" thread.
mostly ALL the links and videos from the project are gone, as well as any web sites linked to. all gone/dead/deleted.
i did however, click on a link to the youtube account, and i noticed that there were 2 new videos posted in the last day, so it appears that the scam is back on and/or still going.
i didnt actually watch the vids, wasnt that interested in gill's bullshit, but im sure someone here will take the time to check it out so i just wanted to stir the pot and throw a bit of gas on the dying fire
