How long have you owned the SDS2504X+? I would say I am gentle, but I guess some equate to how fast I was turning the knob to using an electric drill.
I'm not apposed to buying another low cost product from Siglent to try it out. My only concern is if it does have similar problems, their higher end products may behave completely different. I had asked if their higher end Arbs would have the same problem. I don't think I ever got an answer.
The encoders on my SDG2042 X "works". It does not register all clicks but it does not jump back and forth.
Good to hear their scopes don't appear to have this problem. Again, I am not apposed to looking at another Siglent product but $20k seems like a high risk.
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I think you should contact Siglent for a loaner so you can properly put it through its paces. Or ask if you can purchase it with an extended return period (60 or 90 days?) so you can properly test it, review it, and decide if you want to keep it.
Getting the 800 series stuff would probably still be fun, but I don't think it's remotely close to a taste of the 7000 series. I have absolutely no need for another scope,...
The 800 is cheap enough, I wouldn't worry about getting a loaner or returns. The 7000 is a different story. Even if I had more confidence in the brand, it's enough cash I would want to take for a test drive. It's a bit overkill though for my general use. For the most part, I like that old WaveBlunder but it is no longer reliable.
The 800 is good for some stuff, but it's max 200MHz, lower specs, less triggers, etc. You could probably get a loaner for even the 2000 or 3000 stuff (eventually). If you need 1GHz, 3000 series is your starting place.
The 800 is good for some stuff, but it's max 200MHz, lower specs, less triggers, etc. You could probably get a loaner for even the 2000 or 3000 stuff (eventually). If you need 1GHz, 3000 series is your starting place.
The 800 would only be for evaluating a second Siglent product. Needs were outlined in my other thread but really only looking for 500MHz or so BW. Nothing special.
The 800 is good for some stuff, but it's max 200MHz, lower specs, less triggers, etc. You could probably get a loaner for even the 2000 or 3000 stuff (eventually). If you need 1GHz, 3000 series is your starting place.
The 800 would only be for evaluating a second Siglent product. Needs were outlined in my other thread but really only looking for 500MHz or so BW. Nothing special.
I only mentioned the 1G because you said earlier "the rare occasions when I need 1GHz..."
I assume the 800 is great, but I don't think it will give you a valid idea of the higher end quality. I think my Plus model is great, and Martin who previously owned both the Plus and the HD thought the HD was much better, and now he's waiting for a 3000.
I think if 500MHz is enough for you, then the 2000 with the sale bundle is a killer deal. Your skill level is well above mine, so check the specs for yourself. 😉
Martin who previously owned both the Plus and the HD thought the HD was much better, and now he's waiting for a 3000.
Sorry but I have no idea about the rare occasions comment. Maybe a blackout drunk post but the search engine failed to locate anything.
Knowing, not thinking.
I don't think I've ever - and I mean *ever*, in 10+ years of daily professional use - come across a bug in my MSO-X3104A. Whatever and wherever they may be, they're minor and obscure enough not to be an issue at all. That's a phenomenal achievement.
You can review their bug fix lists for each firmware release in their log: https://www.keysight.com/us/en/assets/9924-01108/release-notes/Keysight-2000A-3000A-X-Series-Oscilloscope-Release-Notes-02-66.pdf?success=true
Some of those bugs would be critical for some users. But they fixed them, as expected of any quality brand. A slightly more critical hardware bug: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/msox3104a-fails-to-boot/
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If I remember correctly, joeqsmith has a WavePro, albeit an older one, at the start.
From my own experience, I know that anything less than a 2000X HD wouldn't make sense.
Actually nothing under an SDS6000*.
And if, like me, he appreciates the multi-grid function of a Lecroy, then not even that.
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I've submitted at least a half dozen bugs on my MSO-X3104A over the last 12 years I've been using it. They've all been fixed at this point, but only two of them showed up in the Release Notes and one of them (not listed) took almost 3 years. My point being, don't read too much about quality into the small list of fixed bugs in the Release Notes.
I do have the WaveMaster which is rated for 5G 20Gs. Also my first DSO which is 4G BW but RIS only. I wouldn't mind having a newer scope that ups the BW with 40Gs but even in the used market, I doubt I would swing it.
Evaluating an 800X HD series at first might be an option indeed
There is nothing comparable on the market and not so long ago I would have said that's it, that's all you need as a hobbyist.
But I know/had the 2000Xplus and most recently the 2000X HD, so I'm a bit biased.
There is nothing comparable on the market and not so long ago I would have said that's it, that's all you need as a hobbyist.
But I know/had the 2000Xplus and most recently the 2000X HD, so I'm a bit biased.
The word you're looking for is "spoiled".