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I have it on very good authority that those prices are completely wrong.
The 34465A will be around US$1500
The 34470A will be <US$3000
Options will cost extra, in the order of hundreds of dollars.
And yes, I might be able to get one soon for teardown.
Yes, Techni-tool who virtually never discounts has the 34465A for $1395, and the 34470A for $2895.
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3446
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3447
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This price is in Brazil, normally much more expensive.
For some context, iPhones used to be sold officially in Brazil for almost twice the price. Playstation 4 launch price? US$1400 vs. US$400 on Amazon. Brasilians often complain about this here in the EEVBlog forum. It's because of import taxes
It's so bad, actually, that Apple started manufacturing iPhones in Brazil just to stay competitive in that market.
Here we have giants taxes, but it is not all. We are very kindly (dumb) to pay a lot more for things. Even with Apple manufacturing iPhones here, they still the same price. With Playstation, they got a lot more 'real' values here now, but as always, a lot more than other countries. Even cars produced here, costs half price in neighbors countries.
About Farnell website, when they don't have any stock here, they prices are crazy, always showing up to 3 or 4 times the actual prices. Even when they have stock itens, I always try by email or phone, to get a 'real' price. I don't know why!
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The conversion rate in that site is, let me say, unreliable.
DSOX3014A - R$12,821.78 - US$3,950
MDO3014 - R$13,949.20 - US$3,990
34461A -R$5,798.34 - US$1.100
Fluke 87V - R$2,490.00 - US$340
U1733C - R$1,099.56 - US$432
US$ prices from tequipment.com
The Fluke 87V here, as you could see, is in 'normal' range of value. You could see that, even with taxes, and reseller profit, still very high.
I don't know why. One thing to think, the agilent U1272 or U1273 are about R$1000,00~R$1500,00, way less than fluke. I don't know how they calculate brazilan values...
So, it ranges from 2.5 to 8.
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Great news! I was wondering why they had not fixed the bugs in the 34461a yet. Seems like they were very busy with these news models and the update to the 34461a, while slow, will include more than bug fixes. Keysight is making a good first impression after the transition.
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I have it on very good authority that those prices are completely wrong.
The 34465A will be around US$1500
The 34470A will be <US$3000
Options will cost extra, in the order of hundreds of dollars.
And yes, I might be able to get one soon for teardown.
Yes, Techni-tool who virtually never discounts has the 34465A for $1395, and the 34470A for $2895.
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3446
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3447
Techni-tool appears to have scrubbed those pages.
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They will be available (at least in North America) in the beginning of March. Some distributors have stock already. I am working on trying to get a demo this week to compare it to the 34461A that I still can return. The guy I am dealing with says they have 3, none of them being spoken for, and can sell them on the 2nd.
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They will be available (at least in North America) in the beginning of March. Some distributors have stock already. I am working on trying to get a demo this week to compare it to the 34461A that I still can return. The guy I am dealing with says they have 3, none of them being spoken for, and can sell them on the 2nd.
Looking forward
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Apparently I have one practically on the truck...
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Apparently I have one practically on the truck...
A Keithley, or an HP (successor)?
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Buy one DMM 34461A at begin of january, I would be coming end of this month or beginning of March,
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Apparently I have one practically on the truck...
A Keithley, or an HP (successor)?
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New brochure from Keysight, 34465A - 34470A included
Regards
http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5990-5315EN.pdf
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A Keithley, or an HP (successor)?
The 34470A and the Keithley actually. Not the same truck, I think the keithley will take a while. -
New brochure from Keysight, 34465A - 34470A included
http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5990-5315EN.pdf
Hey, what's with that U3606A/U3606B ?
A 5.5 digit meter and 30W PSU in the one unit, is that new too?
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Hey, what's with that U3606A/U3606B ?
A 5.5 digit meter and 30W PSU in the one unit, is that new too?
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I have it on very good authority that those prices are completely wrong.
The 34465A will be around US$1500
The 34470A will be <US$3000
Options will cost extra, in the order of hundreds of dollars.
And yes, I might be able to get one soon for teardown.
Yes, Techni-tool who virtually never discounts has the 34465A for $1395, and the 34470A for $2895.
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3446
http://www.techni-tool.com/431TE3447
Techni-tool appears to have scrubbed those pages.
Any other confirmation or delivery date information?
The model numbers are easily found on the Keysight site, so looks like it is fully public now.
7.5 digit - 34470A $2890
6.5 digit - 34465A $1395
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The model numbers are easily found on the Keysight site, so looks like it is fully public now.
In addition to the datasheet already posted, there is a brand new user manual including all 4 DMMs:
http://www.keysight.com/main/redirector.jspx?action=ref&cname=EDITORIAL&ckey=2345839&lc=eng&cc=US&nfr=-536902435.1119280.00
And a series of videos dedicated to the features of the 65/70 (videos amusingly dated 2015-03-03)
http://www.keysight.com/main/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=2569771&nid=-536902435.1119280.00&id=2569771
No new 60/61 firmware posted though.
There are more feature upgrades in the 65/70 and updates in the 60/61 than meet the eye. From a quick look at the new user manual:
* Datalog from front panel (65/70 only).
* Digitizing from front panel (65/70 with $400 DIG option)
* Advanced triggering (65/70 with $400 DIG option)
* Zoom/pan/cursors in datalog and digitizing modes (oscilloscope!) (65/70 only)
* Histogram cursors (65/70 only)
* More data memory (65/70 only)
* Optional 2MB memory (65/70 only with $250 MEM option)
* Aperture time instead of NPLC (65/70 only)
* ACAL. The manual does not exclude the 60/61 from ACAL even though the datasheet does (ALL - NEW for 60/61- to be confirmed).
* Extended calibration status window with ACAL-related info (ALL - NEW for 60/61 TBC)
* 1uA and 10uA ranges (65/70 only)
* Resistance offset compensation (looks like the U1272A Smart Ohms) (65/70 only)
* Resistance low power mode (lower test current to reduce self-heating) (65/70 only)
* 1GOhm range (65/70 only)
* Capacitance measurement (ALL - NEW for 60/61)
* Thermocouple temp measurements (65/70 only)
* Temperature low power setting (65/70 only)
* Smoothing filter (65/70 only)
* More math scaling: % and Mx-B (65/70 only)
* Partial 2nd measurement display (e.g. ACV while DCV primary) (NEW for 60/61)
* Full 2nd measurement display - includes pre-math and 16us peak stats (65/70 only)
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* Capacitance measurement (ALL - NEW for 60/61)
Existing 61 owners can get cap measurement with a firmware upgrade? -
* Capacitance measurement (ALL - NEW for 60/61)
Existing 61 owners can get cap measurement with a firmware upgrade?
Yes, email from Keysight
Regards
Capacitance measurements with the 34461A will require an upgrade to firmware revision 2.07. Revision 2.07 should be available on the Web around March 16th. You can upgrade the firmware yourself by downloading the firmware update utility that is also on the web, along with the firmware file itself.
Note that after you upgrade the firmware, the capacitance function is accessed by pressing:
Shift ? Freq
Older instruments such as yours will not have the symbol above the Freq key as the newer instruments will. -
Capacitance measurements with the 34461A will require an upgrade to firmware revision 2.07. Revision 2.07 should be available on the Web around March 16th. You can upgrade the firmware yourself by downloading the firmware update utility that is also on the web, along with the firmware file itself.
Note that after you upgrade the firmware, the capacitance function is accessed by pressing:
Shift ? Freq
Older instruments such as yours will not have the symbol above the Freq key as the newer instruments will.
They are pushing the release date back by a fortnight?
Well hopefully it will be available before the end of March ...* ACAL. The manual does not exclude the 60/61 from ACAL even though the datasheet does (ALL - NEW for 60/61- to be confirmed).
* Extended calibration status window with ACAL-related info (ALL - NEW for 60/61 TBC)
ACAL is not part of the pre-beta firmware, but the new status window is.* Partial 2nd measurement display (e.g. ACV while DCV primary) (NEW for 60/61)
The second measurements are:- AC when measuring DC (both voltage and current)
- Frequency when measuring AC (again both voltage and current)
- Period when measuring frequency (and frequency when measuring period)
- Resistance (of sensor) when measuring temperature
- Input/ref when measuring DC ratio
For the AC second measurements, the DC measurement stops whilst the AC measurement is done. Everything else is done at the same time.
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Cool for 34461A owners!,I got mine after I watched the Dave review, very happy with this dmm , may someone make a little sticker with Cap symbol to put above Freq key? just an idea.
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Keysight has now made their official press release:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150302005205/en/TRADE-NEWS-Keysight-Technologies-Introduces-Next-Generation-6%C2%BD#.VPSmKTTF8n4
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Did not get a demo unit. They were spoken for until the 9th. Just ordered one instead. Picked it up an hour ago!
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Just lit it up for the first time, and man I am glad this got released while I still could return the Rigol and the 61A! It was not much more than the 61A either.
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Just lit it up for the first time, and man I am glad this got released while I still could return the Rigol and the 61A! It was not much more than the 61A either.
Silent hint : we'd love to see some foto's and hear some first imperssions