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Who wants to see Dave review a Hantek DSO5102P series?
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 16:17
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Have I missed something....how come Dave hasn't 'abused' the Hantek? Are these scopes a bit Bobby Dazzler? Or more like One Hung Low...
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#1 Reply
Posted by
Fungus
on 05 Oct, 2018 16:44
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I'm torn between possible comedy value and/or whether it's a complete waste of Dave's time/money.
If somebody wants to send him one in a mailbag...
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#2 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 16:53
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That's a change of reply to the first one 😉, Banggood have sent several out to reviewers...it's how it's works eh!?
The reason I ask is due to the listing on Banggood, a go to for many DIY'ers and I was surprised not to find a descent review from an experienced Eng. i.e Dave on YouTube...Hoping BG will send him one...
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#3 Reply
Posted by
Fungus
on 05 Oct, 2018 16:58
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The reason I ask is due to the listing on Banggood, a go to for many DIY'ers and I was surprised not to find a descent review from an experienced eng. ad Dave on YouTube...Hoping BG will send him one...
I think Banggood only sends to people likely to do shallow reviews and say good things.
ie. Dave doesn't get any free things from Banggood.
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#4 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 17:03
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Of course we understand such, but assuming eevblog is a business and the poll may show many waiting his view to this entry level being...seems strange he hasn't covered it....
Banggood is the go to...really hope Dave will do a teardown, and bear in mind such a low cost, seems perfect for entry level?
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Dave has covered it, or at least an earlier Hantek version which looks practically the same. Spoiler alert Dave no no likey:
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Also considering the difference in price between it and rigol 1054z, there is no way he would ever recommend it.
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#7 Reply
Posted by
Fungus
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:16
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Also considering the difference in price between it and rigol 1054z, there is no way he would ever recommend it.
I think this is the real point. Dave isn't in business as an oscilloscope/multimeter reviewer so he doesn't try to review every device ever.
If the Owon is missing a Dave-review then it's because it doesn't stand out in the bang-per-buck department or change the game in any way.
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#8 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:20
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100GBP stands out, I'm wondering if there's other forces at work?
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#9 Reply
Posted by
Fungus
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:25
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100GBP stands out, I'm wondering if there's other forces at work?
Where do you get one for that price? I'm seeing prices around $240 on Amazon/eBay.
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#10 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:27
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Dave isn't in the business of a multimeter reviewer......eevblog is a business with his own multimeter! And I'm a great fan, but a subjective one 😉
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#11 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:36
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£186 vs £268 on Banggood, maybe there's another distributor?
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#12 Reply
Posted by
tautech
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:37
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100GBP stands out, I'm wondering if there's other forces at work?
There are.
What stands out is comparatively low specs, initially only 40K memory depth, which for a DSO today is entirely inadequate.
Other specs that hit you right in the eye:
1K FFT
No Runt trigger
No Decode
2mV/div max sensitivity
300V inputs
But if you know how to decipher datasheets all this comes as no surprise.
Still, it's a better buy than an old CRO if you don't have the skills to keep one running.
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#13 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:46
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Am I in a DIY'er forum? Target market for Dave is beginners or have I missed something? Tuition, hobby, learning and affordability? Being an ex designer and as many of you are also and I'm sure we're all aware of the detail, but what shouldn't be lost is the price to performance for the enthusiast. Look past the snobbery and get the youngsters involved- at prices joe average can afford 👍
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#14 Reply
Posted by
taydin
on 05 Oct, 2018 19:52
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As far as I understand, Dave only reviews something if he wants to review it. There are no business considerations
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#15 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 06 Oct, 2018 06:44
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Thanks for the video link, that's a useful review, although quite outdated.
As this review is over 5 years old it would be interesting to see an update from Dave for the Hantek DSO5120P. The only real issue I see for entry level users use (forget firmware lockups at time of video and personal favoured use patterns) is the overshoot and totally agree that we should trust our measuring devices, however those in the field will know when not to from experience, it's only our novices that may fall foul, oh and for aliasing too. This video and various comments left here have convinced me that the 5120P is actually a no brainer for hobbiests when comparing against the Rigol £100 cost difference. I guess it's all about cost vs use, if you're using a scope for business daily then go Rigol and splash the cash, but if you're a have a go DIY'er with sporadic usage....it's gotta make ROI sense!
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#16 Reply
Posted by
nctnico
on 06 Oct, 2018 11:57
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This video and various comments left here have convinced me that the 5120P is actually a no brainer for hobbiests when comparing against the Rigol £100 cost difference. I guess it's all about cost vs use, if you're using a scope for business daily then go Rigol and splash the cash, but if you're a have a go DIY'er with sporadic usage....it's gotta make ROI sense!
Personally I wouldn't consider Rigol for business as well. I also don't quite see why equipment for a hobby should cost next to nothing. If you are strapped for cash it makes sense to want something cheap. However in my own experience going for too cheap tools (not just test equipment) often means messing around with tools which are frustrating to use. Buying a good quality second hand tool is often a better choice. Most of the equipment I have is used and the new stuff is from the last 2 or 3 years.
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#17 Reply
Posted by
Terry01
on 06 Oct, 2018 12:25
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From a complete beginners point(me), I bought a brand new DSO5102p to learn on then around 8-12 months later sold that and bought a near new 2nd hand DSO1054z. I found the DSO5102p fine for learning on and it put me in good standing to confidently buying a better 2nd hand upgrade scope which I am still learning on.
I probably could have just went straight for the DSO1054z but would have spent a ton more time scratching my head with all the "extra" stuff on the DSO1054z.
I think with this type of thing it falls into "different strokes for different folks".
All that being said, I could probably still have gotten by even now with the DSO5102p but it's just nice to have all the extra features and stuff, but that's just my story...
I was recommended the DSO5102p by another member on one of the forums and he's a very knowledgeable hobbyist who I see every day sharing his knowledge and skills. He has a DSO5102p too so again "DSFDF"
Everyone is different …..
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#18 Reply
Posted by
LeaUK
on 08 Oct, 2018 08:12
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I have a Gould 1425 on route from eBay, cut me teeth on one of those as an apprentice...see if it inspires the boy to dig into electronics projects a little deeper. Grab him an Arduino, nano, Bluetooth board, psu and some breadboard....connection to his phone could be key....then to th wonderful would of c👍👍👍
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#19 Reply
Posted by
EEVblog
on 08 Oct, 2018 10:51
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That's a change of reply to the first one 😉, Banggood have sent several out to reviewers...it's how it's works eh!?
The reason I ask is due to the listing on Banggood, a go to for many DIY'ers and I was surprised not to find a descent review from an experienced Eng. i.e Dave on YouTube...Hoping BG will send him one...
Banggood are spamgood.
They have a dozens of employees who bombard bloggers constantly with review offers. I send them all to the spam box.
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#20 Reply
Posted by
EEVblog
on 08 Oct, 2018 10:53
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Am I in a DIY'er forum? Target market for Dave is beginners or have I missed something? Tuition, hobby, learning and affordability? Being an ex designer and as many of you are also and I'm sure we're all aware of the detail, but what shouldn't be lost is the price to performance for the enthusiast. Look past the snobbery and get the youngsters involved- at prices joe average can afford 👍
Actually my audience is about half professionals.
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#21 Reply
Posted by
EEVblog
on 08 Oct, 2018 10:57
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Dave has covered it, or at least an earlier Hantek version which looks practically the same. Spoiler alert Dave no no likey:
Trio Test who lent me that scope were NOT happy campers. Although Charles is a mate of mine, he basically threatened to never loan me anything ever again
I called his bluff and won
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#22 Reply
Posted by
EEVblog
on 08 Oct, 2018 11:12
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Speak of the devil, got another email just now.
In a few more days it'll be another one "Bruce" or "Jenny" or "Tiffany"
