What do you think of your EEVblog Brymen BM235 Multimeter ?

• #25 Reply
  Posted by joeqsmith on 04 Oct, 2016 10:49
• Quote from: EEVblog on 04 Oct, 2016 06:38

  Quote from: mos6502 on 03 Oct, 2016 18:45

  Considering all the extra features and the fact that the 257s is only 20 bucks more, I'd definitely go for the 257. Also, the 257 doesn't have a noisy backlight 
  

  
  Neither has any BM235 sold from the last several shipments.
  

  
  The only thing I saw on the one I received was the common input connector not sitting flat on the PCB, the cut out area for clearance, and the hand soldered ferrites.  The meter was well crafted.   It outperform the Fluke 87V, Fluke 17B+, Keysight U1231A and the Hioki DT4252 during my transient tests.  These are name brands with big reputations.  The fact that Brymen meets the EMC standards as well as the safety standards and that they are independently certified, it's obvious they are not in the same low end class as most of the products I have looked at. 
• #26 Reply
  Posted by luke_2700k on 15 Nov, 2016 02:46
• Just ordered mine from the eBay store, looking forward to its arrival!
  
  I'm sure it will greatly surpass by $30 Jaycar multi-meter and it's a nice touch to have Dave's logo on it!
  
   
• #27 Reply
  Posted by ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 02:51
• Quote from: luke_2700k on 15 Nov, 2016 02:46

  Just ordered mine from the eBay store, looking forward to its arrival!
  

  
  I get a kick out of people buying from Amazon to sell on ebay 
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-Multi-Testers-NEW-LOT-SET-/322323635079?hash=item4b0bfc5b87:g:TMAAAOSwo4pYI8CQ
• #28 Reply
  Posted by EEVblog on 15 Nov, 2016 03:14
• Quote from: ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 02:51

  I get a kick out of people buying from Amazon to sell on ebay 
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-Multi-Testers-NEW-LOT-SET-/322323635079?hash=item4b0bfc5b87:g:TMAAAOSwo4pYI8CQ
  

  
  LOL! Good luck to them. Although they have stolen my images. Maybe I should stop that?
  I sell it cheaper:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/222311345017?hash=item33c2c9eb79:g:5N8AAOSwcl1XPaWn
• #29 Reply
  Posted by Robomeds on 15 Nov, 2016 06:34
• Quote from: ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 02:51

  Quote from: luke_2700k on 15 Nov, 2016 02:46

  Just ordered mine from the eBay store, looking forward to its arrival!
  

  
  I get a kick out of people buying from Amazon to sell on ebay 
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-Multi-Testers-NEW-LOT-SET-/322323635079?hash=item4b0bfc5b87:g:TMAAAOSwo4pYI8CQ
  

  
  This can end badly for Dave (but probably not in this specific case).  NPR did an article about this the other day. 
  http://www.npr.org/2016/09/16/494199339/why-middlemen-are-taking-over-the-global-economy
  
  In the above case the ebay sellers would effectively drop ship from the Amazon store.  That was fine until the buyers realized it was cheaper on Amazon.  They would return the item to the ebay seller who would have it returned directly to Amazon.  Now the Amazon seller takes a "return" hit and has to deal with returned merchandise.  The ebay seller is effectively out nothing so they don't care that their operating expense was effectively passed on to the Amazon seller. 
  
  And another one:
  https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/278622
• #30 Reply
  Posted by EEVblog on 15 Nov, 2016 07:30
• Quote from: Robomeds on 15 Nov, 2016 06:34

  And another one:
  https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/278622
  

  
  That's a great article.
  I looked at reporting the listing based on copyright of the photos, but it wanted me shunt me over to some other section because it's a trademark issue?
• #31 Reply
  Posted by ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 07:41
• Quote from: Robomeds on 15 Nov, 2016 06:34

  
   NPR did an article about this the other day. 
  http://www.npr.org/2016/09/16/494199339/why-middlemen-are-taking-over-the-global-economy
  
  

  
  Holy crap - I would never have guessed the things were coming direct from Amazon and there is software taking products from Amazon and listing them on ebay.  And the original sellers getting screwed.  Oh dear
• #32 Reply
  Posted by TheSteve on 15 Nov, 2016 08:05
• Quote from: Robomeds on 15 Nov, 2016 06:34

  And another one:
  https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/278622
  

  
  Great, now I want a Ripple Rug for my cat.
• #33 Reply
  Posted by ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 08:23
• Quote from: TheSteve on 15 Nov, 2016 08:05

  Great, now I want a Ripple Rug for my cat.
  

  Sorry Dave but we are talking about ebay vs Amazon  and in this case $1 difference - ebay is cheaper
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Ripple-Rug-2-0-USA-ALL-OTHER-EBAY-SELLERS-ARE-FAKE-We-are-Manufacturer-/122019978159?hash=item1c68f51baf:g:Qi4AAOSw3YNXZd8U
  
  https://www.amazon.com/SnugglyCat-Activity-Interactive-Scratching-Multi-Use/dp/B016H3T8EC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479197854&sr=8-1&keywords=Ripple+Rug
• #34 Reply
  Posted by Robomeds on 18 Nov, 2016 03:57
• Quote from: EEVblog on 15 Nov, 2016 07:30

  Quote from: Robomeds on 15 Nov, 2016 06:34

  And another one:
  https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/278622
  

  
  That's a great article.
  I looked at reporting the listing based on copyright of the photos, but it wanted me shunt me over to some other section because it's a trademark issue?
  

  
  I liked this response to the resellers....
  

  Quote

  He finds other anti-arbitrage sellers and swaps strategies. One of those people, Eric Wildermuth, who sells a line of children’s hats called Snuggleheads, came up with a particularly sneaky punishment: He bought his own hat from an eBay arbitrager for $27 -- and then, before the arbitrager could go to Amazon and make the purchase, Wildermuth changed his Amazon listing price to $199. Result: The arbitrager could either lose $172 on the sale or cancel the purchase, which would damage the arbitrager’s eBay ranking. Wildermuth repeated this about 10 times. “I got these frantic calls [from the arbitrager]. He said, ‘Please don’t do this,’” says Wildermuth. “He knew what I was doing. And I let out a string of expletives.”
• #35 Reply
  Posted by luke_2700k on 18 Nov, 2016 05:02
• Quote from: EEVblog on 15 Nov, 2016 03:14

  Quote from: ez24 on 15 Nov, 2016 02:51

  I get a kick out of people buying from Amazon to sell on ebay 
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-Multi-Testers-NEW-LOT-SET-/322323635079?hash=item4b0bfc5b87:g:TMAAAOSwo4pYI8CQ
  

  
  LOL! Good luck to them. Although they have stolen my images. Maybe I should stop that?
  I sell it cheaper:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/222311345017?hash=item33c2c9eb79:g:5N8AAOSwcl1XPaWn
  

  
  I didn't buy it from a reseller.....well at least I didn't think I did.
  
  The one I purchased was from the official EEVBlog eBay store 
  
  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/222311345017?hash=item33c2c9eb79:g:5N8AAOSwcl1XPaWn
  
  If it's not from Dave it will be getting sent back and I will be purchasing one from him!!!
  
  
• #36 Reply
  Posted by ez24 on 18 Nov, 2016 07:02
• Quote from: luke_2700k on 18 Nov, 2016 05:02

  The one I purchased was from the official EEVBlog eBay store 
  
  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/222311345017?hash=item33c2c9eb79:g:5N8AAOSwcl1XPaWn
  
  

  
  You got the real deal
• #37 Reply
  Posted by brucer37 on 18 Nov, 2016 13:16
• I hae 2 of them.
• #38 Reply
  Posted by EEVblog on 18 Nov, 2016 13:34
• Quote from: Robomeds on 18 Nov, 2016 03:57

  I liked this response to the resellers....
  

  Quote

  He finds other anti-arbitrage sellers and swaps strategies. One of those people, Eric Wildermuth, who sells a line of children’s hats called Snuggleheads, came up with a particularly sneaky punishment: He bought his own hat from an eBay arbitrager for $27 -- and then, before the arbitrager could go to Amazon and make the purchase, Wildermuth changed his Amazon listing price to $199. Result: The arbitrager could either lose $172 on the sale or cancel the purchase, which would damage the arbitrager’s eBay ranking. Wildermuth repeated this about 10 times. “I got these frantic calls [from the arbitrager]. He said, ‘Please don’t do this,’” says Wildermuth. “He knew what I was doing. And I let out a string of expletives.”

  
  I like that! 
  
  Seems like the listing is gone now?
  
• #39 Reply
  Posted by ez24 on 18 Nov, 2016 18:24
• Quote from: EEVblog on 18 Nov, 2016 13:34

  
  Seems like the listing is gone now?
  

  
  Still there
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/322304598393?hash=item4b0ad9e179:g:kIkAAOSwo4pYDfw9
  
  this seller has over 31,000 items for sale - this is the cheapest
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fun-with-Leaves-Stencils-Dover-Stencils-/322287906698?hash=item4b09db2f8a:g:zwoAAOSwLF1X-i0F
  
  and from Amazon:
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Fun-Leaves-Stencils-Dover/dp/048626808X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479492851&sr=8-1&keywords=Fun+with+Leaves+Stencils+Dover+Stencils
  
  Dave don't you have an ebook?  You could put that on Amazon and when it gets to ebay pull off that price increase trick.
  
  It is hard to kill rats.
  
  
• #40 Reply
  Posted by Testing123 on 19 Nov, 2016 02:56
• Quote from: ez24 on 18 Nov, 2016 18:24

  Quote from: EEVblog on 18 Nov, 2016 13:34

  
  Seems like the listing is gone now?
  

  
  Still there
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEVblog-Brymen-BM235-Multimeter-/322304598393?hash=item4b0ad9e179:g:kIkAAOSwo4pYDfw9

  
  But then directly below the top portion of this person’s eBay page, there is a row of icon pics titled:
  “People who viewed this item also viewed”
  Dave’s EEVblog BM235 site with a pic of the BM235 is the 1st in the row (reading left to right) and lists a price, which is lower than that of the perpetrator’s BM235. So, if anyone is paying attention, this should be an easy choice.
  
  I couldn't find a listing as to the amount of BM235's this person has sold.
  
• #41 Reply
  Posted by billfernandez on 19 Nov, 2016 06:12
• Quote from: EEVblog on 15 Nov, 2016 07:30

  I looked at reporting the listing based on copyright of the photos, but it wanted me shunt me over to some other section because it's a trademark issue?
  

  
  Odd.  Under USA law use of your photo without your permission is a copyright issue, whereas use of your logo or trade name without your permission would be a trademark issue.
• #42 Reply
  Posted by rrinker on 19 Nov, 2016 19:04
•  It used to be that ebay actually cared about sellers so using someone else's pictures in your auction was highly frowned upon and it wasn't difficult to make the offender remove their listing.
• #43 Reply
  Posted by slicendice on 22 Dec, 2016 11:12
• I currently don't own his meter but I intend to get one directly from Dave.
  
  This is a really good meter and the price tag is just right.
  
  Here's why:
  
  ( A comprehensive teardown and stress / performance test and comparison of BM235 multimeter vs other known brands done by Joe Smith )
• #44 Reply
  Posted by tautech on 22 Dec, 2016 11:25
• Quote from: slicendice on 22 Dec, 2016 11:12

  I currently don't own his meter but I intend to get one directly from Dave.
  
  This is a really good meter and the price tag is just right.
  
  Here's why:
  URL
  ( A comprehensive teardown and stress / performance test and comparison of BM235 multimeter vs other known brands done by Joe Smith )
  

  Welcome to the forum.
  
  You're quite right, it seems a good DMM. That vid of Joes was posted in this thread back in September.
  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hear-kitty-kitty-kitty-nope-not-that-kind-of-cat/msg1030093/#msg1030093
  
• #45 Reply
  Posted by slicendice on 22 Dec, 2016 11:32
• Quote from: tautech on 22 Dec, 2016 11:25

  Welcome to the forum.
  

  
  Thanks a lot! :-)
  
  

  Quote from: tautech on 22 Dec, 2016 11:25

  You're quite right, it seems a good DMM. That vid of Joes was posted in this thread back in September.
  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hear-kitty-kitty-kitty-nope-not-that-kind-of-cat/msg1030093/#msg1030093
  

  
  I missed that one. This forum is flooded with good information. As a new member I have not yet had the time to scan through everything.
• #46 Reply
  Posted by VK5RC on 22 Dec, 2016 11:46
• For me one of the better features is the small size of the 235 overall but a good sized screen.  When I am using a multimeter usually stuff is everywhere,  my desk isn't big so compact size is a plus for me.
  Ticks a lot of the boxes re price,  reasonable safety,  accuracy etc.
  
• #47 Reply
  Posted by djos on 22 Dec, 2016 20:28
• Quote from: VK5RC on 22 Dec, 2016 11:46

  For me one of the better features is the small size of the 235 overall but a good sized screen.  When I am using a multimeter usually stuff is everywhere,  my desk isn't big so compact size is a plus for me.
  Ticks a lot of the boxes re price,  reasonable safety,  accuracy etc.
  

  
  I agree, my old meter is much larger and the smaller footprint is very welcome. Plus it's blue and helps keep Dave in business making more awesome videos for us.
• #48 Reply
  Posted by IanB on 22 Dec, 2016 20:46
• I just the other day noticed the BM235 has a better diode test function than the BM869s as the BM235 will display a Vf > 2.0 V for white LEDs where the BM869s just shows OL. (But oddly, the BM869 makes the diode light up and presumably has a value for Vf internally, it just is not prepared to display it. This seems like an odd shortcoming in a modern meter, given how common white LEDs are.)
• #49 Reply
  Posted by joeqsmith on 23 Dec, 2016 18:57
• Quote from: slicendice on 22 Dec, 2016 11:12

  I currently don't own his meter but I intend to get one directly from Dave.
  
  This is a really good meter and the price tag is just right.
  
  Here's why:
  ( A comprehensive teardown and stress / performance test and comparison of BM235 multimeter vs other known brands done by Joe Smith )
  

  
  Glad it helped.