How to build an ideal transformer!

[Chet]

The core of this ideal transformer is a dielectric canister filled with one or more noble gases around which is wrapped an open coil of bare aluminum clad, iron core wire.

The primary and the secondary coils of this ideal transformer is composed of the standard usage of enameled magnetic copper winding wire. Bare aluminum clad, iron core wire, may be wound interspersed among the primary and secondary windings for increased protection against the loss of their magnetic fields.

[coromonadalix]

a better xformer but quite expensive   is one with squared enameled wiring ...  lower losses than classic ones,  Carver did use them in their audio stuff  loll

but as you may know :  toroids will give better results,  the more the wattage, better load and regulation they have


what would be you usage of this better / ideal  x-former ?

[temperance]

We use cow farts. We found the relative magnetic permeability to be the same as those of some more expensive gasses and highly linear. However, due to the poor coupling between the windings, we had to place them so close together that the winding to winding capacitance increased enormously. Apart from the odore which is realeased under zero point energy conditions it works excellent.

[nonius_]

How to build an ideal transformer!

Ideal transformers can't be built - they're a theoretical construct.

[Edit: bugger. I only now noticed the cesspit of a sub-forum I'm posting this in. Ignore my comment & carry on! ]

[Kean]

We use cow farts. We found the relative magnetic permeability to be the same as those of some more expensive gasses and highly linear. However, due to the poor coupling between the windings, we had to place them so close together that the winding to winding capacitance increased enormously. Apart from the odore which is realeased under zero point energy conditions it works excellent.

Personally, I prefer using penguin farts and cooling the whole thing to sub-0K.

[themadhippy]

Why so vicious? all you  need is  a perfect day to take  a walk on the wild side before hanging around and  engaging in a new york telephone conversation.Goodnight ladies

[UnijunctionTransistor]

Why so vicious? all you  need is  a perfect day to take  a walk on the wild side before hanging around and  engaging in a new york telephone conversation.Goodnight ladies

You obviously haven’t argued with the TS Chet on his other threads.
NOTE: I already have practiced restraint and have abstained to make any other comments on his idea.

[temperance]

We use cow farts. We found the relative magnetic permeability to be the same as those of some more expensive gasses and highly linear. However, due to the poor coupling between the windings, we had to place them so close together that the winding to winding capacitance increased enormously. Apart from the odore which is realeased under zero point energy conditions it works excellent.

Personally, I prefer using penguin farts and cooling the whole thing to sub-0K.

Where I live, they are phasing out cows, a descission made by the Prime Minister of Cow Farts a few years ago. So our staff was busy searching for a replacement. But there is something fishy about penguin emissions making them less ideal.

[Xena E]

Why so vicious? all you  need is  a perfect day to take  a walk on the wild side before hanging around and  engaging in a new york telephone conversation.Goodnight ladies

You obviously haven’t argued with the TS Chet on his other threads.
NOTE: I already have practiced restraint and have abstained to make any other comments on his idea.

🙄 do keep up! That's actually a very clever reference by themadhippy to the Lou Reed album Transformer.

[Xena E]

@Chet...
How 'bout, (stay with me on this one mmkay), build your transformer like a torroid but put your enameled copper windings where the core would normally be, then wind the core where the windings would normally be (with enamel insulated iron wire)... there won't be any eddy current losses and the coupling will be greater than 1:1, giving you the overunity you have always craved...

Actually that last part is one big load of Temperances cow farts, but the transformer manufacturing method is valid, used for audio coupling back in the day, and called 'a hedgehog'.

Hmm hedgehog farts, I wonder if that's been tried? 🤔

Also just a little hint for ya... just because you feel better doesn't mean you should stop taking your meds, and leave the facility...

As our friend lou would say, I hope you've learned something ...and goodnight vaginas...

[Haenk]

Let me check, I probably have a lump of Aluminium somewhere around. I'll transform it with some true zero point energy (ignorant people call it a 5kg sledge hammer, but what do those people know...).
No need for cat farts, exotic gases or crazy ideas.

[SteveThackery]

So go on, Chet: tell us why the core should be a canister of noble gas. Why a noble gas, and not just air?

[temperance]

Just another brain fart.

[Andy Chee]

The core of this ideal transformer

An ideal transformer has all the three properties;

1) no magnetic flux leaks out into the air,
2) zero winding resistance,
3) zero eddy currents.

Your spitball attempt only addresses property 3) and even then, a vacuum is better than your unspecified noble gases (do you even know what noble gases are?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technobabble

[paul cotter]

Very good, I will just add, (4) no hysteresis losses.

[Zero999]

A transformer made with superconductors will be as close to an ideal transformer as possible, but still not perfect, since there will be some leakage flux.

[temperance]

And the core has infinite permeability.

[Wallace Gasiewicz]

Is this the mechanism for obtaining cow farts??
https://bigthink.com/the-present/this-is-how-you-turn-cow-fart-gas-into-energy/
I personally think that Penguin farts would work better at extremely low temps.
Also I think that given the state of aristocracy, noble gasses are not to be trusted.

[jonovid]

flat frequency response from DC to daylight

[temperance]

https://bigthink.com/the-present/this-is-how-you-turn-cow-fart-gas-into-energy/

  I have always dreamed of zeppelins and still hope they will make a comeback. But I didn't expect them to drone around powered by bovine emissions.

As a child, I got a book about mechanics for my birthday. One chapter featured zeppelins. Inspired by its simplicity, I set out to build my own model. Of course, it had to fly, so I crafted an alcohol burner out of a small tomato can as a source of hot air. But at the age of 8 or 9, I wasn't very good at estimating the heat produced by the burner. Needless to say, it went down exactly like a certain well-known zeppelin.

Thinking about it now, it could have ended very bad with me severely burned. Or worse, if it had managed to take off with the burner still going, it might have set the forest behind our yard on fire... Oh well, I suppose that’s why parents have liability insurance, just in case they end up with a child like me with to much imagination and an appetite for experiments.

[Electrodynamic]

The core of this ideal transformer

An ideal transformer has all the three properties;

1) no magnetic flux leaks out into the air,
2) zero winding resistance,
3) zero eddy currents.

Your spitball attempt only addresses property 3) and even then, a vacuum is better than your unspecified noble gases (do you even know what noble gases are?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technobabble

It's debatable and I used to do a lot of R&D on all kinds of transformers.

For example, suppose we had a worst case scenario where we used a 50 turn iron core solenoid coil as our primary and six inches away was another similar iron core solenoid coil with 100 turns as our secondary. One would think it's as bad as it gets and be grossly inefficient but this isn't always the case. In fact, whatever magnetic field change is not transferred to the secondary must collapse back into the primary and we should treat it as in inductor. So on the primary I used a low resistance mosfet as a threshold detector/flyback diode set just above the source voltage as a scavenging circuit to charge a capacitor like an inductor would.

In effect, whatever energy is not transferred to the secondary returns to the primary as an inductive discharge like an inductor because the magnetic field lines are supposedly closed loops. I mean why would anyone just eat the losses using a flyback diode on the primary to protect the switching element and get nothing in return?, it's mental imo. If energy is conserved then whatever energy is not transferred to the secondary must show up on the primary minus losses. It's the simple stuff like this which seems to elude many people imo. The first question we need to be asking is if we do have losses where did the energy go, what form does it take and how can we reclaim it?.

[temperance]

I mean why would anyone just eat the losses using a flyback diode on the primary to protect the switching element and get nothing in return?

I can state all above in two words: lossless snubber.

Two switch forward/flyback converters do this 'naturally'. But those are much a thing of the past. Resonant converters are much more efficient and use the leakage inductance to charge/discharge the switch output capacitance.

It's the simple stuff like this which seems to elude many people imo.

Maybe some...

[Andy Chee]

If energy is conserved then whatever energy is not transferred to the secondary must show up on the primary minus losses. It's the simple stuff like this which seems to elude many people imo.

If energy is not transferred to the secondary, that is not an ideal transformer. 

Simple stuff indeed.

[paul cotter]

Or a half bridge/full bridge.

[temperance]

Or a half bridge/full bridge.

Only at 50 % duty cycle.