JLCPCB scam

[jeschris]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

[2N3055]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

Read my lips: it is not spy stuff.
These are lists of comercial entities, people, classes of goods etc.. Millions and millions of things. Say thank you to USA sanctions polices and export regimes and all other countries that do the same in reverse.

Fact they gave you due date is actually a hint. You got included in some category that starts being sanctioned from some date.
It can country + product + whatever related. Since there are millions and millions entities on these lists they started including categories with wildcards too..
Shitshow.
Just read again what Ataradov wrote. Basically same thing. He is in USA, I tell you from EU. Same import export regime.

I am sorry for your troubles and wish you could sort it out. But I don't think reasons are what you think they are. Take or leave it.

[jeschris]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

Read my lips: it is not spy stuff.
These are lists of comercial entities, people, classes of goods etc.. Millions and millions of things. Say thank you to USA sanctions polices and export regimes and all other countries that do the same in reverse.

Fact they gave you due date is actually a hint. You got included in some category that starts being sanctioned from some date.
It can country + product + whatever related. Since there are millions and millions entities on these lists they started including categories with wildcards too..
Shitshow.
Just read again what Ataradov wrote. Basically same thing. He is in USA, I tell you from EU. Same import export regime.

I am sorry for your troubles and wish you could sort it out. But I don't think reasons are what you think they are. Take or leave it.

bro you cant believe what you write..they gave a date because it must be an automatic email or procedure they have thats today + 2 months..
if i was flagged or i did something so illegal ooor if they thought by false positive i did something illegal THEY WOULD LET ME COMPLETE THE EXISTIN ORDERS??

do you really believe that?
i mean go to sleep bro and let other people read what i wrote, let them understand and let them protect themselvs from these scammers

[2N3055]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

Read my lips: it is not spy stuff.
These are lists of comercial entities, people, classes of goods etc.. Millions and millions of things. Say thank you to USA sanctions polices and export regimes and all other countries that do the same in reverse.

Fact they gave you due date is actually a hint. You got included in some category that starts being sanctioned from some date.
It can country + product + whatever related. Since there are millions and millions entities on these lists they started including categories with wildcards too..
Shitshow.
Just read again what Ataradov wrote. Basically same thing. He is in USA, I tell you from EU. Same import export regime.

I am sorry for your troubles and wish you could sort it out. But I don't think reasons are what you think they are. Take or leave it.

bro you cant believe what you write..they gave a date because it must be an automatic email or procedure they have thats today + 2 months..
if i was flagged or i did something so illegal ooor if they thought by false positive i did something illegal THEY WOULD LET ME COMPLETE THE EXISTIN ORDERS??

do you really believe that?
i mean go to sleep bro and let other people read what i wrote, let them understand and let them protect themselvs from these scammers

 

[jeschris]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

Read my lips: it is not spy stuff.
These are lists of comercial entities, people, classes of goods etc.. Millions and millions of things. Say thank you to USA sanctions polices and export regimes and all other countries that do the same in reverse.

Fact they gave you due date is actually a hint. You got included in some category that starts being sanctioned from some date.
It can country + product + whatever related. Since there are millions and millions entities on these lists they started including categories with wildcards too..
Shitshow.
Just read again what Ataradov wrote. Basically same thing. He is in USA, I tell you from EU. Same import export regime.

I am sorry for your troubles and wish you could sort it out. But I don't think reasons are what you think they are. Take or leave it.

bro you cant believe what you write..they gave a date because it must be an automatic email or procedure they have thats today + 2 months..
if i was flagged or i did something so illegal ooor if they thought by false positive i did something illegal THEY WOULD LET ME COMPLETE THE EXISTIN ORDERS??

do you really believe that?
i mean go to sleep bro and let other people read what i wrote, let them understand and let them protect themselvs from these scammers

 

6usd coupon for you by daddy jlcpcb.
the one who thinks im a spy or be on whatever list but they are sitll willing to complete any pending orders(if i had ones).

very smart of you bro. im such a bad person, im violating rules and laws but yea if i have any orders left they will still do them because they are good people.. yea man sure.goodnight

people be aware... dont risk your money with their parts inventory

[RoGeorge]

Maybe they are using AI to evaluate how profitable you are for them, and it decided to ban you.  This is not unheard, YouTube just popped this recommend video the other day:

AI is denying your healthcare (and it's getting worse)
Vanessa Wingårdh


In short, healthcare intentionally set an AI trained to DENY medical healthcare in order to maximize profits.  Doctors are punished by internal regulations in case they override the AI decision.  This is beyond dystopian already. 

[ataradov]

This makes no sense at all. Most of their orders are not profitable, it is a marketing expense. And it would happen way more often if that was the case.

If you search for the wording in their response, it does not appear as is anywhere I can find. But related searches show people with email domain "yandex.ru" are getting similar (but not exact) rejections.

[jeschris]

This makes no sense at all. Most of their orders are not profitable, it is a marketing expense. And it would happen way more often if that was the case.

If you search for the wording in their response, it does not appear as is anywhere I can find. But related searches show people with email domain "yandex.ru" are getting similar (but not exact) rejections.

very strange right? i mean, why would they COMPLETE all my existing orders if i was doing anything illegal for the next 2 months?

I only realised when i wrote about it here that their number 1 thing on the email is that they will suspend my account but they will complete any existing orders first..
makes no sense at all..

[tszaboo]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

People were sent to forced labor camp by the soviets because they made a clerical error.
It's not uncommon to get on some watchlist by accident.

[jeschris]

To those ones INSISTING that i might be on any list by mistake etc etc etc

Again, my english aren't the best but iiiiiiiiiiiif I was on aaaaaaany imaginary list.. would they let me finish any existing orders??? (i have 0 existing orders but parts in the inventory).

read the email they sent.. number 1:

Before this date, you may:
1) Complete any existing orders.

So i can complete existing orders and get them shipped despite the fact im on this china's spy list or whatever you guys are thinking the reason is??

How does that make sense to you because it doesnt make sense to me AT ALL!!!!

People were sent to forced labor camp by the soviets because they made a clerical error.
It's not uncommon to get on some watchlist by accident.

true its not uncommon to get on a watchlist accidently but how common is to steal your money for being on a watchlist by mistake?

[cunningfellow]

Maybe some part of the current christian crackdown.

Your name is almost Jesus Christ

But what ever the reason I can assure you it is nothing about you not being profitable and them wanting to scam you or rip you off.

You where never profitable.  Your total orders and your current inventory is not even a rounding error.

[jeschris]

Maybe some part of the current christian crackdown.

Your name is almost Jesus Christ

But what ever the reason I can assure you it is nothing about you not being profitable and them wanting to scam you or rip you off.

You where never profitable.  Your total orders and your current inventory is not even a rounding error.

ah so its ok they can steal my money

[ataradov]

Yes, they can. This is the nature of doing business with foreign entities.

Order locally and you will have an entity to sue for contract violation.

As to the question of how rare it is, I can't find a single other report of this happening, so apparently quite rare.

[langwadt]

But man my name isn't James or John or whatever. its just a strange firstname lastname. cant be on aaaany list.

I think they realised they dont make money out of my last orders anymore especially becauses i manually decreased stencil's size and did not do any assemply to them..

you don't know if you are on a list, maybe you are not but you, or some error, somehow triggered something.

you must be crazy if you think a company of that size will go through that hassle just because you order something cheaper, if that was it they would just increase your price

[themadhippy]

i mean, why would they COMPLETE all my existing orders if i was doing anything illegal for the next 2 months?

because wot your doing aint illegal yet,it only becomes illegal after 13 december

[jeschris]

nothing changes after 13 december..its just today + 2 months. so more chances to be just their procedure..

dont look at the reason, look at what they did.
decided to:
suspend my account for policy violation
but will complete existing orders which is contradictory to policy violation
and not willing to refund me the inventory..

thats the reason of the post..not our guesses of WHY they did it..
look at the forest , stop staring at my finger pointing to the forest

[tszaboo]

true its not uncommon to get on a watchlist accidently but how common is to steal your money for being on a watchlist by mistake?

Well, at least you weren't sent to Siberia for 20 years, so there is some silver lining, right?
I get you are upset, I would be also.

[squadchannel]

Yes, they can. This is the nature of doing business with foreign entities.

Order locally and you will have an entity to sue for contract violation.

As to the question of how rare it is, I can't find a single other report of this happening, so apparently quite rare.

 
https://www.reddit.com/r/diyelectronics/comments/1o6nsr2/weird_email_from_jlcpcb/

[jeschris]

Yes, they can. This is the nature of doing business with foreign entities.

Order locally and you will have an entity to sue for contract violation.

As to the question of how rare it is, I can't find a single other report of this happening, so apparently quite rare.

 
https://www.reddit.com/r/diyelectronics/comments/1o6nsr2/weird_email_from_jlcpcb/

thats not me.

THANK YOU!!

you see people...

[RoGeorge]

Maybe write them back, and kindly ask them what compliance policy is your account breaking.  Ask them if there is anything you can do from your side to restore the compliance status, and what is the risk that was detected for your account.

[thm_w]

No one is trying to scam you.

If you search for the wording in their response, it does not appear as is anywhere I can find. But related searches show people with email domain "yandex.ru" are getting similar (but not exact) rejections.

Story is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PCB/comments/1d37su8/jlcpcb_denied_pcba_service_because_im_associated/
Though it was clear why it happened in that case, former address was Russia.

Maybe name search here: https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/

[UnijunctionTransistor]

@jeschris

First of all, nobody here is happy about your problems. We get that you should be RIGHTFULLY pissed off.

People are attempting to explain possible causes. Calling them names, just because you don’t agree with them, is fully unwarranted.

[jeschris]

No one is trying to scam you.

If you search for the wording in their response, it does not appear as is anywhere I can find. But related searches show people with email domain "yandex.ru" are getting similar (but not exact) rejections.

Story is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PCB/comments/1d37su8/jlcpcb_denied_pcba_service_because_im_associated/
Though it was clear why it happened in that case, former address was Russia.

Maybe name search here: https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/

im not on that list just checked thanks for the info.
if you see on previous post someone posted a link from reddit...an other guy is having the same issue as me..3 hours ago..i just posted on reddit aswel

[jeschris]

@jeschris

First of all, nobody here is happy about your problems. We get that you should be RIGHTFULLY pissed off.

People are attempting to explain possible causes. Calling them names, just because you don’t agree with them, is fully unwarranted.

too tired to go back check who did i call any name. i didnt call anyone names im pretty sure.
now, seems like there are more guys with the same issue i see in other forums..

[ataradov]

now, seems like there are more guys with the same issue i see in other forums..

Links? Preferably not from disposable accounts created today.