No I don't want to make this a linux versus windows thread and I am talking about the types of people that use them rather than the platform itself. I also meant just the two OSes not the possibility of commercial offerings on Linux. And of course often hidden behind the "free" is a commercial interest. When I started with hosting I tried Vesta cp, oh wonderful, free. But there was a bug after an update that apparently was well known about and with some difficulty I got help to resolve the issue with software that I was being told was wonderful and free but was known to have a bug that needed a file editing with a text editor on update. When I was faced with further problems and with an unhelpful "support" forum I was offered commercial help to the tune of £100 for an hour or two. For less than that I can rent cPanel that broadly works out of the box and has some support. Obviously if I was deeply knowledgeable about Vestacp and doing largescale hosting it would pay for me to invest the time in learning it inside out given the huge savings in cPanel licensing which is what some actual hosting companies do, but this is out of reach of little old me that just wants to host a few sites for friends and it's easier to pay what vestacp support costs by the hour for an entire year of trouble free software operation.