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Offline tony359Topic starter

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MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« on: February 10, 2020, 06:19:03 pm »
Hello all,

As a fun project I am troubleshooting a system board of an old sound processor which is featuring a MC68HC16Z1 microcontroller. The board seems dead. I have good clock and the reset line is ok but I see no activity whatsoever anywhere.

This is a total fun project and it's probably beyond my capabilities but I am just having a go. I'm building some cables to extend the board out of its chassis so I can probe it more easily but does anybody have any troubleshooting tips on this chip? Am I expected to see any activity on the address lines or data lines meaning that the processor is trying to read the program or could a faulty eeprom or RAM result into a completely dead system?

Thanks for any tips you could have!
Tony
 

Offline ale500

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 07:33:42 pm »
The manual of the microcontroller is still available, have a look at it. It is an "enhanced" HC11/HC12 with true 16 bit registers. The Bus is asynchronous like in the 68k, and not synchronous like in the HC11. Post some pictures of the board :).
 

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 09:07:57 pm »
Hi Ale500,

Apologies for not following up. I just wanted to let the community know that I eventually managed to observe some brief data transfer on the data lines at power up so I assumed the CPU was attempting to do something. I realised a memory module was VERY warm and I had 27 Ohm between VCC and ground.
Once the memory module was replaces the board came back to life!

I now have a digital scope, I'm confident it would have been much easier to spot that activity!

Thanks again for your help and sorry for disappearing.

 

Offline Bassman59

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 09:23:50 pm »
I bet that those two big empty sockets in the middle of that board are EPROMs, and those EPROMs held the program memory for your processor. I think you're dead in the water.
 

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 10:46:34 pm »
Bassman,

Indeed! I just don't have EEPROMS for all my boards so I have been swapping them around. I happened to take a picture of a board that doesn't have the EEPROM but don't worry, I am aware the board won't start without those chips :)
 

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2020, 10:44:17 pm »
The board looks like it's VME format. Looks nicely built too.

 

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Re: MC68HC16Z1 troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2020, 05:17:30 am »
I'm glad it was that easy :) nice to see the 68HC16 being used somewhere.
 


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