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LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« on: February 09, 2014, 10:25:22 pm »
Hi,

beside the two killer Reference Voltage threads, i would like to present my little voltage reference for beginners.

It is an unbufferd 5V reference based on the LT1027. I use a LT1763 as low noise regulator which is fed by a linear 15V power supply.
I put it all in a metal case and thermal Chamber made of styrofoam with an build in heater.

More details and some measurements at:
http://itist.de/2013/09/lt-1027-basierte-5-v-referenzspannungsquelle/


Greetz

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The LM399s were waiting......

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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2014, 02:10:00 pm »
neat!  what are you using as a heater circuit?

edit: ah, I see the PTC heater foil used as the heating element in your blog post.  But how are you measuring / regulating the temperature?
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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2014, 07:21:35 pm »
Hi,
I am using a Thermocouple Type K for the temperature measurement.
The Foil is "self regulating" via its PTC characteristic.

I plan to build a temperature control with an KTYxx and an OpAmp but first  I have to measure the real temperature of the case.
My target is around 32° C because the maximum ambient Temperature is 26°C. Maybe i need another heater (Ceramic Resistors).
Greetz

Oliver

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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2014, 07:40:26 pm »
Try this as a heater, it's at 40° C but very stable.

http://www.kuhne-electronic.de/en/products/crystal-heater/qh-40-a.html
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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2014, 07:54:34 pm »
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Try this as a heater, it's at 40° C but very stable.

My guess is, that this heater (QH40A) is a bit to small for this application. But I can confirm that it is a neat little beast.
I have it assembled on my chip resistors (only 5ppm/K) of my LM399 reference and on a MAX6325 in plastic package. The heater is only somewhat bigger compared to a SO8 adapter board.
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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2014, 09:36:54 pm »
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My guess is, that this heater is a bit to small for this application. But I can confirm that the QH 40 A is a neat little beast.
I have it assembled on my chip resistors (only 5ppm/K) of my LM399 and on a MAX6325 in plastic package. The heater is only somewhat bigger compared to a SO8 adapter board.

Hi,

I think that's true but this was for a first cheap test. Is the QH 40 suitable for the whole metal case ore only for the reference IC? Could i order it at Kuehne electronic or is there a distributor?

Thanks.

Greetz

Oliver


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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2014, 09:58:50 pm »
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Is the QH 40 suitable for the whole metal case ore only for the reference IC?

Only for the reference. The heater is only 10,5mm x 14,0 mm in size, operating voltage 8 ... 12V and about 80mA inrush current.
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Re: LT1027 based Reference Voltage
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 10:11:16 pm »
Okay,

i used the foil for the whole case it draws 180mA at 12V and i got a temperature difference of approx. 18°. I haven't done the math. ;)
Need a more precise thermometer. Maybe a sensor with I2C bus?

Greetz

Oliver


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