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Offline erdemtr55Topic starter

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Uc3854 problem
« on: October 02, 2026, 06:53:46 pm »
Hi Guys,
I tried to simulate a PFC circuit based on the schematic in the attached file, but for some reason, the gate signal is at a very low level (in the mV range). What could the problem be?

Note: 100 kHz, 250 W, Vin 220 VAC, Vout 400 VDC.
 

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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2026, 11:03:31 pm »
If you post the LTSpice *.asc file and the UC3854 model we could try them and possibly find the problem.
 
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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2026, 08:56:00 am »
I sent you my file , maybe you can solve my problem
thanks
« Last Edit: October 04, 2026, 01:49:11 pm by erdemtr55 »
 

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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2026, 09:03:38 am »
I sent you my file , maybe you can solve my problem
thanks
I can't find what you sent, but you are better off just posting the files on the forum. There are more knowledgeable people than I am.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2026, 11:19:15 pm by moffy »
 
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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2026, 01:50:29 pm »
I am  sharing it at now,
Sorry previously
 

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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2026, 03:36:20 am »
From the testing of your simulation file it looks like there might be a problem with the UC3854 model, especially since it has been developed by an individual rather than the manufacturer.
The following article: https://dspace.upt.ro/jspui/bitstream/123456789/1802/3/BUPT_ART_Șchiop_f.pdf
goes into detail of how the authors developed a pspice model for the UC3854, and seems to have enough detail to reconstruct it but it would involve a bit of work, unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a link for their model.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2026, 12:35:29 am by moffy »
 
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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2026, 05:23:48 am »
I have to revise my last statement, I modified the LTSpice file to be like the example given in the datasheet and it output full level gate pulses.
 
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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2026, 01:42:38 pm »
I tested mod2 and firstly voltage boost 410 v but then voltage buck 320-310v
I think that it is not normal.What if  how ı solve it?
 

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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2026, 12:32:51 am »
I tested mod2 and firstly voltage boost 410 v but then voltage buck 320-310v
I think that it is not normal.What if  how ı solve it?

The model for the UC3854 is unverified, it cannot really be trusted until proven, the question is does the model behave as the real device?
Here is an application note: https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slua144/slua144.pdf?ts=1724033606595
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Re: Uc3854 problem
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2026, 05:18:15 am »
I tested mod2 and firstly voltage boost 410 v but then voltage buck 320-310v
I think that it is not normal.What if  how ı solve it?
The 410V does not result from the controller's operation; even if you remove the switching transistor, the phenomenon will remain. You need to limit the charging current of the capacitor through the NTC.
320V is simply the rectified mains voltage, the boost converter is not working.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2026, 11:36:57 am by MariuszD »
 


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