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Offline xoomTopic starter

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Electric fence ATVA-4 repair
« on: October 26, 2018, 09:08:18 am »
Hi trying to fix this device.. it have blown BD911 transistor (hes TAB touched HV wire insulation and melted it) so i guess it got high voltage..  tryed to replace with similar transistor but its not working (not oscillating).. drawn schematic from it and it looks strange:


dont know how it supposed to oscillate..
can somebody bit explain how this topology works?
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Re: Electric fence ATVA-4 repair
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 10:09:10 pm »
There are 2 oscillators, one on the left xformer to reach something around 400-600V from 12V, then a low frequency oscillator that discharges the 15microF 700V cap into the right transformer giving a few kV pulse on the output.

Step-up is something along these lines:
BD911 is biased into conduction through R1,R2 and the small secondary winding on your schematic.
Once enough current has flowed through the primary winding, a voltage will show on both secondary windings, the smaller windings being in reverse on the BD911 base will stop it's conduction until field  in transformer is insufficient, then cycle repeats.

BC547 is there for voltage regulation,  limiting BD911's conduction once secondary voltage is high enough.
220nF  is either there for setting oscillation frequency or as capacitive voltage dropper for charging the reservoir cap. (Less heat dissipation)

The time constant for the fence pulses is set by R5 and 10microF cap, once diac voltage is reached a pulse occurs then the 15microF cap must charge again.

For testing you can isolate the 2 functions by breaking the circuit after the 15microF cap. If voltage ramps-up there you have problem on the pulse side.
 

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Re: Electric fence ATVA-4 repair
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 10:19:12 pm »
Similarly you should be able to test the pulse side by charging the 15microF cap through a resistive or capacitive dropper from the grid, with or without voltage doubler depending on your grid voltage.

In either case 12V or grid supply be aware that the 15microF cap is the enemy (besides grid of course), far more dangerous than the fence output.
 

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Re: Electric fence ATVA-4 repair
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 05:51:50 pm »


Another repair that went wrong... We're loosing members... Need a sticky "Safety rules" in the repair section!
 


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