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Offline joeqsmith

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2022, 07:50:27 pm »
Shown are my latest experimental slip joints for easy tuning.   Also shown are the new high tech materials used for spacers.

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2022, 08:02:22 pm »
Looking good Joe.  :-+

I used 1/8" brazing rod so to be able to fit 2 screw cable joiner inners for the feed points whereas I could've used 1/4" solid copper rod but needed to manufacture adjustable feed points which really wouldn't be a problem on the lathe but as the J Pole was quite small so the the 1/8" brazing rod was quite adequate.
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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2022, 08:45:04 pm »
Maybe some hobby brass tubing and make everything adjustable.   Come up with something you like, solder it up.   This one can be tuned over a fairly wide range but may not radiate very well.   

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2022, 01:26:02 am »
Second Slim Jim. 

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2022, 04:04:03 am »
The Vivaldi is a bit more directional.   

These last two antennas were taken with a 5deg resolution, or 36 elevation and 72 azimuth.  Taking 2592 data points by hand would be a nightmare.   Added one more zoomed in a bit on the backside.
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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2022, 10:03:44 pm »
Taking the same Vivaldi and moving to a half meter away from the reference antenna does have an effect on the pattern.  Considering that I am testing these in my home lab it's actually closer than I would have expected.   Shown from two different viewing angles along with a low res 2D plot of the same setup.    Where the SlimJimII was tested a bit over 900MHz,  this Vivaldi is being tested at 2.4GHz.   

The low cost VNAs don't have very good noise specs and moving it further away could be a problem.  My Signal Hound would do a better job making these measurements but it's fun playing with this $120 unit.    The LiteVNA's firmware limits measurements to 9.3GHz.  I have included data comparing it's noise floor against my old Agilent PNA, both using a 1k IF and again with the PNA set to 100Hz.   Also shown is the SA with nothing but a 10dB attenuator attached to it, using the realtime mode with a 2.4GHz center.  Note it still picks up interference from my router.   

Article using a drone to map the radiation pattern.   
https://signalhound.com/news/antenna-measurement-and-characterization-with-uavs/

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2022, 01:21:10 am »
May not look as pretty,  but an effective demo showing the radiation pattern of a dipole.   



Walter Lewin Electromagnetic Waves, Solutions to Maxwell's Equations, Polarization
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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2022, 04:05:44 am »
Attempting to use the LiteVNA to sweep an X-band horn.   :-\    It's a tradeoff.  The performance of the Lite is pretty poor but still, $120.

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2022, 03:43:46 pm »
Very interesting stuff - i might have found my next project or two!  :-+
 

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Re: Antennas for experimentation
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2022, 04:38:26 pm »
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.   


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