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Offline krivx

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #200 on: November 13, 2014, 02:30:56 pm »
Am I the only person to receive no updates at all? No communication through ebay or email.
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #201 on: November 13, 2014, 02:41:49 pm »
Am I the only person to receive no updates at all? No communication through ebay or email.

Check your spam folder... thats where all their correspondences are automatically ending up.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #202 on: November 13, 2014, 03:09:59 pm »
 :wtf:
Paid with PayPal, got cancelling letter (2 acctually) and decided to choose refund. Nothing received so far. I'll give them a day or two :(
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #203 on: November 13, 2014, 03:11:54 pm »
I too received the "full refund + 10% off or full refund" email to my personal email address, and was personally offended.

Though I was empathetic before, I have now changed my opinion on these guys:

It appears they are pulling a scam/marketing trick, and it's in our best interest to inform eBay of this seller's activities, or to warn those after us not to purchase from street-autoparts. I do have the opportunity to leave feedback, shall we all slam them with negative feedback? Ask for a proper cancellation? How can we band together and drive this home? Their misdealings and general honesty should not go unpunished.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #204 on: November 13, 2014, 03:42:42 pm »
Filled "Report a seller" on com.au site.
Seller is not honouring contract, does not state reason for a cancelled order, seems to publish misleading information about stock level (stock was 2, then 0, then 2, 0, 2, etc. - some 30-60 orders total with "actual" stock of 2 made). I have suspicion that actual stock was 0 all the time.
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #205 on: November 13, 2014, 03:47:08 pm »
I too received the "full refund + 10% off or full refund" email to my personal email address, and was personally offended.
Though I was empathetic before, I have now changed my opinion on these guys:
I share this opinion. If they just would have send out a message (using eBay messaging rather then directmail), explaining they had a automated eBayscript screwing the pooch and offering products at invalid prices. And provided refunds (the correct way, using eBay). All would have been fine by me, no hard feelings.

But the story about no longer being manufactured (which is BS, Keithley still produces them, several large distributers still have them in plenty of stock),
The fact they are still (at this very moment) selling them (for 10 times the price at Farnell...) on their eBay account, and the way of refunding stuff directly and thus bypassing eBay, so all of us will end up with unpaid items in your accounts. Is together enough to really really wind me up  :box:
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #206 on: November 13, 2014, 03:48:39 pm »
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It appears they are pulling a scam/marketing trick, and it's in our best interest to inform eBay of this seller's activities, or to warn those after us not to purchase from street-autoparts. I do have the opportunity to leave feedback, shall we all slam them with negative feedback?
It is your right. I will see how it develops with eBay.
Ask for a proper cancellation? How can we band together and drive this home? Their misdealings and general honesty should not go unpunished.
Report seller to eBay. Citizens of AU could also report suspicious selling practices on local eBay site of this business entity to local authorities if there is appropriate laws for such cases.
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #207 on: November 13, 2014, 04:46:43 pm »
The leave feedback link is still working for me. I don't know what the implications of filling this in would be (for the buyer). Maybe it would imply to eBay that the transaction was completed, which makes it impossible to cancel the order, for example. But, just noting it's still there.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #208 on: November 13, 2014, 04:55:49 pm »
I cannot find a way to "report seller" on ebay. Also, I am holding off on leaving feedback, cause i am unsure of the implications of doing so.

I am also not pressing the link that represents one of the two resolution options that they sent to my personal email. I assume they will only process a refund if you click one of the two options?

I am starting to loathe this seller, for being the dishonest scam artist that he is... Can someone come up with a boiler plate message that we can all report the seller to eBay with?
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #209 on: November 13, 2014, 05:03:53 pm »
So now I have gone and tried to re-pay the items (they attempted the refund trick) and they are trying to "charge additional fees".  This is going to get ugly.  As I said yesterday, this is a scam to try and sell PSU's OFF ebay.....I am contacting ebay and possibly legal council.  These guys are about to deal with the ramifications of pissing off a bunch of engineers   :-DD
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #210 on: November 13, 2014, 05:18:24 pm »
Might be worth moaning to their bank as well lol

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #211 on: November 13, 2014, 06:03:35 pm »
I cannot find a way to "report seller" on ebay. Also, I am holding off on leaving feedback, cause i am unsure of the implications of doing so.
I should have written "Report a member". Go to eBay.com.au "Help&Contact" -> "Contact us" -> "Reporting a member" -> "Reporting a member" -> "Email us" -> email
I am also not pressing the link that represents one of the two resolution options that they sent to my personal email. I assume they will only process a refund if you click one of the two options?
I got notice of a refund but not actual refund. I did not accept conditions of neither of those two options.
I am starting to loathe this seller, for being the dishonest scam artist that he is... Can someone come up with a boiler plate message that we can all report the seller to eBay with?
Interesting idea. I have already send a report, but I am not that familiar with eBay.com.au system and AU laws. Can somebody from Australia look into this?
I would write 1) seller breached contract, 2) actual issue/problem is not disclosed, 3) strange stock numbers (2, 0, then 2 again?), 4) refunded (probably) but eBay shows unpaid item - what is this mess?, 5) message to personal email (check spam folder) with some :blah: about lack of supply. All in all, strange seller activity, possibly against eBay rules.
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #212 on: November 13, 2014, 06:17:21 pm »
Just got off the phone with ebay customer service and fraud departments.....the seller is obligated to fulfill the contract =) 

They are either going to ship us all PSU's or get shut down.....I will be contacting legal council to see if there is a way to force them to honor the sales contract.  This is why I ordered $2 grand worth of them, I have a case.

Someone is about to be in a lot of trouble  >:D

I urge you all to call ebay and do the same as I did.  I doubt we will ever see PSU's (never thought we would), but this "seller" is toast
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #213 on: November 13, 2014, 06:28:57 pm »
Just got off the phone with ebay customer service and fraud departments.....the seller is obligated to fulfill the contract =) 
Legally I don't think that's the case if it is very obviously an error.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #214 on: November 13, 2014, 06:32:18 pm »
The fun stops for me when a mistake is leading to an organized torching of the seller.
Stop it TunerSandwich, please.
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #215 on: November 13, 2014, 06:33:20 pm »
Hang on, some of us here took a chance to capitalise on some guys mistake and now we are all supposed to try to hang him out to dry... on the charge of using automated software no less!
Regardless of the legal situation:
(A) There's not a chance in hell they ship a single unit no matter what anyone does, given the number of units sold here they would be better off shutting up shop.
(B) Some employee is running round trying to mop up a mess, why make things any harder for them?

It was a long shot, a cheeky attempt to take advantage and it hasn't worked. No need to waste any more of anyone's time . So long as I get a refund I consider the matter closed.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #216 on: November 13, 2014, 06:37:19 pm »
Just got off the phone with ebay customer service and fraud departments.....the seller is obligated to fulfill the contract =) 
Legally I don't think that's the case if it is very obviously an error.

In UK law a contract can be voided if there has been what is obviously a mistake from either party. I've no idea what the law is in Australia, which is where I suspect jurisdiction would lie. Going legal should always be the very last resort in any situation, and in the UK a judge will look very poorly indeed at anyone who refuses to negotiate before taking legal action.

I'll keep emailing them for another day before heading down the report to ebay.au route.

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #217 on: November 13, 2014, 06:41:25 pm »
The fun stops for me when a mistake is leading to an organized torching of the seller.
I agree that the seller doesn't have to "burn", but in my opinion there is a line between a pricing error caused by a bot, and a deliberate email containing nothing but lies. A line the seller clearly crossed.

(Product is end of life, it's in backorder, we will deliver at 10% discount when available again, etc..). All of that was clearly just a poor excuse chosen by the seller to use, instead of "we messed up the prices, our apologies and we refund (the correct way) immediately no questions asked."

Instead they communicate outside of ebay with dodgy url's, refund the wrong way causing unpaid items at alot of people, still offer the PSU but at 100 times the price (wasn't it EOL according to them?) and don't seem to admit they were wrong.. There should be repercussions for this kind of behavior on eBay. (Like a official warning from eBay or such)
 

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #218 on: November 13, 2014, 06:44:10 pm »
I don't expect to get the PSU's as this was "to good an offer" , and that's fine with me.

But i do expect the seller to cancel my order , so i don't have a transaction listed in the ebay : Unpaid items  section

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #219 on: November 13, 2014, 06:46:27 pm »
The fun stops for me when a mistake is leading to an organized torching of the seller.
Stop it TunerSandwich, please.

You obviously don't understand what is going on here.  Read the entire scenario before making assumptions.  This is an obvious scam.  They sent money back to us, left the items as "unpaid" on ebay, and are now trying to charge "additional fees"  when we try to repay.

Don't you dare try to say I am initiating a witch hunt.  This isn't some humble guy just trying to make a living.  This is an obvious scam, and I plan on taking all action possible to combat it. 

Read before you assume. 
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #220 on: November 13, 2014, 06:50:27 pm »
Just got off the phone with ebay customer service and fraud departments.....the seller is obligated to fulfill the contract =) 
Legally I don't think that's the case if it is very obviously an error.

It is not a legally binding issue IF the seller just states they made a mistake on pricing and submits an official cancellation request, through ebay.  It IS a legal issue when they lie in an unsolicited email to our personal email accounts, refund the money paid, and leave the items as "unpaid" on our ebay accounts.

Ebay rep said ebay supports my actions against the seller.  I urge others to do the same.  These ebay bot scams should be confronted.  Is it worth my time, financially?  No.  Will we ever get Ketithly 2000 series PSU's?  NO.  However, from a moral and "what's right" standpoint, I feel it is my duty to spend the time to combat such fraudulent activities. 

It's my time, my money....if it makes ebay a safer place (even just slightly) then I feel I have done a good deed.
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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #221 on: November 13, 2014, 06:52:06 pm »
The fun stops for me when a mistake is leading to an organized torching of the seller.
Stop it TunerSandwich, please.

You obviously don't understand what is going on here.  Read the entire scenario before making assumptions.  This is an obvious scam.  They sent money back to us, left the items as "unpaid" on ebay, and are now trying to charge "additional fees"  when we try to repay.

Don't you dare try to say I am initiating a witch hunt.  This isn't some humble guy just trying to make a living.  This is an obvious scam, and I plan on taking all action possible to combat it. 

Read before you assume.

OK Sherlock, if he's scamming you why are you so keen to send him money?
 

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« Reply #222 on: November 13, 2014, 06:54:12 pm »
I don't understand why everyone is getting so upset.
It was obviously an error. Attempting to persue it is just greed bordering on fraud. There is no way anyone can claim to have really lost anything, or to have had a genuine believe it was genuine.

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Re: Best eBay deal ever or am I missing something?
« Reply #223 on: November 13, 2014, 06:55:01 pm »
Because no one wants unpaid items on their ebay account... It's bad for the buyer
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« Reply #224 on: November 13, 2014, 06:55:22 pm »
I don't expect to get the PSU's as this was "to good an offer" , and that's fine with me.

But i do expect the seller to cancel my order , so i don't have a transaction listed in the ebay : Unpaid items  section

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