Author Topic: Best Value Function Generator  (Read 19977 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline AustinTxBobTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 40
  • Country: us
Best Value Function Generator
« on: March 08, 2016, 09:27:50 pm »
I would like to buy a function generator to be used in my AC class for the lab assignments. In the future, I might need one for ham radio projects but that is just speculation and not a confirmed need right now.  Any thoughts on something cheap from ebay?  I see a lot of well known brands but don't have a clue if they would be any good or not.  Alternatively, there are they cheap DDS ones.  I cannot afford to buy a nice piece of equipment right now so something over $100 just isn't going to be an option right now.

Thanks.
Bob
 

Offline ataradov

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 12494
  • Country: us
    • Personal site
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 10:31:24 pm »
This one is all over the place http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-25MHZ-DDS-Dual-Channel-waveform-signal-generator-frequency-meter-signal-source-/191620192470 . It is functional and does the job, but the UI is just horrible. It is very irritating to set it up and change settings.
Alex
 

Offline alsetalokin4017

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2055
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 11:11:39 pm »
This one is all over the place http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-25MHZ-DDS-Dual-Channel-waveform-signal-generator-frequency-meter-signal-source-/191620192470 . It is functional and does the job, but the UI is just horrible. It is very irritating to set it up and change settings.

I've got one of those, had it for about 2 months. At first I did find the setting system cumbersome but now that I'm used to it, it's easy enough to use. I wouldn't describe it as "just horrible", it just takes a little practice. I have not tried the software for entering arbitrary waveforms, but I've saved a few custom settings to its memory without trouble.
However... there are some real performance issues with the thing, such as phase jitter. Still, it's useful around the lab, especially for making pretty coloured lines on an oscilloscope. It's nice to be able to have two outputs that can be either independent or "tracking". But the phase jitter issue, and the phase measurements, are problematic.
The quality of the build seems better than some others I've seen, and I like the fact that it's powered by a 5VDC "wall wart" SMPS rather than having a mains line cord coming into the box. The two cliplead cords seem to be OK quality as well. It also has a TTL-level breakout connector on the back and it comes with a little screw-terminal adapter for it.

I thought about sending it back over the phase jitter issue... but decided to keep it... because....

:After all, it's only 65 dollars, what did you expect:      |O
The easiest person to fool is yourself. -- Richard Feynman
 

Offline gearhead

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 25
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 11:22:11 pm »
You might check this thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/feeltech-fy3224s-24mhz-2-channel-dds-aw-function-signal-generator/

I posted a link in Reply#138 to the FY3224S function generator.
You need at LEAST one working o'scope to repair an o'scope, and you need SEVERAL working multimeters (digital & analog) to repair another multimeter! Not to mention EVERYTHING ELSE!
 

Offline AustinTxBobTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 40
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 01:21:34 pm »
So a DDS or maybe an old HP like a 3312a will work for me.  I think for any radio work, I would probably want a signal generator instead.  With that in mind, I've dropped the idea of getting something useful for that as well.
 

Offline NilByMouth

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 71
  • Country: gb
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 01:40:33 pm »
Tektronix TM50X plus FG504? You're in the right country for Tek kit.
 

Offline AustinTxBobTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 40
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 03:08:11 pm »
Tektronix TM50X plus FG504? You're in the right country for Tek kit.

That would be nice if I could get a good deal on one.
 

Offline NilByMouth

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 71
  • Country: gb
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 03:13:51 pm »
Tektronix TM50X plus FG504? You're in the right country for Tek kit.

That would be nice if I could get a good deal on one.

I've seen "working" ones go for $50-ish each.
 

Offline AustinTxBobTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 40
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 02:24:16 am »
Nothing at the swap fest so it looks like the "for sale" section here and ebay will be searched on a regular basis.  Lot on ebay, just don't know about the brand/models.
 

Offline mtdoc

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 3575
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 02:39:13 am »
What sort of bandwidth do you need?

I have one of these Leader 2Mhz function generators. It's old school analog style but it has been rock solid (much more so than the old HP and Tek FGs I've had) and should be easy to repair if any issues come up.

If you need higher bandwidth on a low budget, I'd go for one of the cheap Chinese DDS generators.
 

Offline jeffsf

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 24
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2016, 04:58:19 pm »
If you just need a signal source and don't need calibrated output or modulation, you might look at one of the AD9851 modules available on eBay for under $15. They're DDS at 180 Msps and have a decent LPF on them. There look to be two variants, one with jumpers and one without. I have the one without the jumpers. I'm guessing that the jumpers allow selection of the device boot up between serial- and parallel-input modes.

http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD9851.pdf -- 180 Msps
http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD9850.pdf -- 125 Msps

"Any" simple DDS generator will drop off with increasing frequency due to the sin(x)/x related to the sampling rate. See page 12 of the AD9851 datasheet or https://www.ieee.li/pdf/essay/dds.pdf, for example

There are some good write-ups on packaging and using the AD9850 modules around as well. One I like is

http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/arduino/AD9850-waveform-generator/AD9850-waveform-generator.htm


 

Offline AustinTxBobTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 40
  • Country: us
Re: Best Value Function Generator
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2016, 01:16:26 am »

There are some good write-ups on packaging and using the AD9850 modules around as well. One I like is

http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/arduino/AD9850-waveform-generator/AD9850-waveform-generator.htm

Thanks.  This one looks pretty good.  I think my class might be over by the time I got it put together and working though. :)  I actually have a 9850 that I am using for my class project to make an antenna analyzer with.  Guess I should have ordered two.
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf

 

- - -
-->