Dossena Multiver 3 SN - 3 Phase network analyser

[shakalnokturn]

At times this place gets a little boring with all the discussion about the latest Chinese toys so for a bit of a change, here's a piece of unknown to the forum, old school Italian kit.

I don't know much about it, it's a power network analyser that must have been very advanced in its day (CIRCA 1994).

It runs on a CHIPS XT+ SBC that loads the software from either an external floppy or in my case a PCMCIA flash card, the system menus are accessed trough the EL backlit LCD's touchscreen.

Each measurement function has contextual help, still if someone has documentation I'll be grateful.

Also can anyone recognise the model of the 3 pin plugs used for the current clamps ?

Teardown to come later...

[Roehrenonkel]

Hi shakalnokturn,

Also can anyone recognise the model of the 3 pin plugs used for the current clamps ?

Mini-XLR?

Best regards

[coromonadalix]

not sure they are keyed the same way  for the lock  lever

[shakalnokturn]

Hi shakalnokturn,

Also can anyone recognise the model of the 3 pin plugs used for the current clamps ?

Mini-XLR?

Best regards

Thanks, it doesn't seem to be mini XLR, this one has a flat portion in the barrel.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Bonjour a toutes et tous 
Nouveau sur le site, je me suis inscrit vu j'ai le même appareil, et recherche de la documentation sur celui-ci.
J'ai donc découvert le site en cherchant une solution a la remise en service 
Mon appareil, semble avoir un gros soucis de BOOT, car bien que l'appareil s'allume, apparait le logo du constructeur, puis plusieurs messages d'erreur, dont le plus inquiétant est une série de ligne en hexadécimal..!  avec parfois, des lignes indiquant :
SQRT : DOMAIN error
floating point error : DOMAIN
dispositif non prêt durant la lecture...?
Le système serai sous DOS version
Je recherche un moyen de réinstaller le système complet, mais j'ignore quel DOS installé 

[Poroit]

G'day shakalnokturn,

My company used to sell those in Western Australia.

Very popular with Electricians and Electrical Engineers as there was nothing else around in their price range.

There were single phase models as well.

I see Dossena still exists......have you contacted them ?

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Hello POROIT 
Oui, l'appareil étant trop vieux, ils n'ont plus de doc dessus  :'(
j'ignore si c'est un DOS normal, ou une version constructeur..

[Poroit]

G'day All,

Another company that made a similar product at the same time was Elcontrol.(attached)

They also produced a Single Phase Model MICROVIP-MK1.2

[shakalnokturn]

Hello,

Poroit: I haven't tried getting in touch with Dossena for documentation. Apparently Oliv_Bricol-2 did without success.
My mystery connector turned out to be made by Hypertronics.
That Microvip manual made me wonder if the use of "unbalanced" made any sense in a single phase context?

Oliv_Bricol-2: English is the preferred language around here.
I could image my flash card if I have all the required equipment and you can give me a method to follow. Last time I tried accessing PCMCIA on a laptop was a flop.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Hello 
Oops SORRY.
 I checked the automatic translation of the page, I thought that this would also take care of the writing.
The device does not boot, so I don't know how it works or the options.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

for the PCMCIA card, there is the port on the front panel for I believe to save the data, my device indicates a reading fault on drive B??? and does not boot.  the DOS of the device seems corrupted to me given the error messages, and I don't know which version to look for and where to obtain it. I am waiting for a PCMCIA reader to understand the fault and find a troubleshooting solution.

[elianto]

Hello from DOSSENA SNC Italy,
unfortunately there is practically nothing left of these devices that is usable, even the designers of the time are gone.
I will look in the old backups if I find something useful.
Regards.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

 
Hello elianto
Would you be from DOSSENA?
I contacted DOSSENA to obtain the ATELIER manual, but as announced, nothing seems to exist anymore
Do you know how the MULTIVER works, the DOS of the device seems to be out of order.
I'm looking to know the origin of DOS and its version, specific or not, but also how to install the software.


Bonjour elianto 
seriez vous de DOSSENA ?
j'ai contacté DOSSENA, pour obtenir le manuel ATELIER, mais comme annoncé, plus rien ne semble exister 
connaissez vous le fonctionnement du MULTIVER, le DOS de l'appareil semble hors service.
je recherche a connaitre l'origine du DOS et sa version, spécifique ou pas, mais aussi comment installer le logiciel.

[Poroit]

G'day All,

Balanced and Unbalanced loads apply to Three Phase Systems.

[elianto]

This is all I found for MV3SN in a pile of old CDROMs, it is a device produced from 1994 to 1996.
Since those years the factory has changed location and ownership, the staff has changed completely, I am in the production department, and the documentation of the old projects is lost.
About ATELIER nothing found.

Best Regards.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Good morning Elianto 
Thanks for the time spent researching. in any case, THANK YOU to the after-sales service, this is the manufacturer's response I have ever had, and the best and fastest I have encountered so far.  WELL DONE !

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Hello everyone. The small connectors are FRB type D01 Hypertac series brands:

link : https://www.smithsinterconnect.com/getattachment/6364fc5a-3a5f-4454-9f13-2c4891158881/D-series_USLetter-2024-2-2-20-08-24.pdf

the device still does not boot   

Do you know who distributed these devices, perhaps they provide after-sales service and have technical documentation for the workshop?  without the diagrams, I think it is lost for re-commissioning.

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Hello everyone
best wishes for 2025.
 is it possible to check the software of the device ?
  how to exit the software and where to find an original dump or copy it ?

[shakalnokturn]

Mine boots (at least last time I turned it on). If you tell me the prerequisites and method to dump the flash card and I have the necessary hardware available I'll give it a try...

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Bonjour,
vous avez la carte FLASH du logiciel 
C'est super, il faut avoir un lecteur autonome pour copier le contenu, les vieux ordi portables avait un lecteur, mais désormais, c'est tout USB.

Good morning,
you have the software FLASH card
It's great, you have to have a standalone drive to copy the content, old laptops had a drive, but now it's all USB.  what is the memory capacity of the PCMCIA card?

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

Hello everyone, do you think it is possible to extract the software that runs the device on the motherboard?

[Oliv_Bricol-2]

 
I think I forgot the main thing.
 It's a CPU, brand PC Chips type 8680 14MHz