Hantek 6022BE 20MHz USB DSO

[Mark_O]

I have been playing with the factory software for about two weeks and am familiar enough with it now to give an evaluation of the of the open software program.

OK, so what is your evaluation? 

With factory software more times than not I get the windows faded save window.  Often trapizoid in appearance like it is trying to get away before the actual screen save. Never got an answer.

What was the question?  Were you wondering if anyone else has experienced this?  Because yours is the first such report I have read.  Sometimes no response IS the answer.

Likely due to the slowness of laptop video.  As anyone buying a $60 scope will likely also have a cheap slow laptop.  Can a delay be added to software so the save screen isn't saved with the scope image?

You're talking about the factory software, so asking here what can be done by Hantek is asking in the wrong place.  None of us can do anything about Hantek's software, which is why RichardK spent all the time he did on the open version.

Could Hantek add such a delay?  I suppose so.  Will Hantek?  Realistically, no.  Based on just one person having an issue.  Get a dozen people reporting the problem, and maybe they will add it to a list.  Then in 6 months look at the list, and 6 months later issue a software update, which may or may not incorporate your fix.

You'd be better off using your own PC-side software to do a screen capture.  Something like Irfanview (under Windows) can do so easily, and even allows you to specify the region to grab, and format to save in.  Trigger it with a key-combo of your choosing.  Or just use Windows built-in PrintScreen, to grab the whole screen, and trim it in the graphic software of your choice.

There's a reason that Hantek has a reputation for mediocre PC software... they earned it.

[pickle9000]

There's a reason that Hantek has a reputation for mediocre PC software... they earned it.

To be fair most software out of China (for test equipment) is poor.

[RichardK]

There's a reason that Hantek has a reputation for mediocre PC software... they earned it.

To be fair most software out of China (for test equipment) is poor.

China is the king of Cheap, Japan and US are the king of Quality... That doesn't mean you wont find quality in China, there are some good companies there that make quality items (Walkera, WLToys, Foxconn, etc...), but typically Cheap and China are hand in hand. And you can find some cheap and poorly made products in Japan and the US, but not as much as China.

If you have ever seen inside a typical cheap Chinese ATX power supply, you can see how good they are at eliminating and downgrading components to get the product working at a bare minimum, lowest cost, whereas Japanese and US companies go out of their way to make their products robust and reliable.

Then you have the Chinese printed materials like packaging and manuals, that brings a whole new level of hilarity, confusion and frustration.

[daybyter]

Walkera? Quality? I had some rc helis from them...not so good... 

Back to the scope...I tried to measure a capacitor with our super-cheap scope.

Following this tutorial:



This is my result so far:



Had some problems to position the cursors with the mouse, so my result so far is 45,3 nF for my 47nF capacitor.

[RichardK]

Walkera? Quality? I had some rc helis from them...not so good... 

Well they are a higher end brand, compared to say, Syma... Not every company is perfect

I'd place them in the order Align (For big models), Walkera (For micros), E-Flite (Blade), WLToys (They really need to drop the Toys part), Syma (Toy grade).

[Seekonk]

My interest in the 6022BE is different than most others here. Not interested in a
free lunch. I am thinking of using it in a product and therefore very interested in
any potential glitches like a screen save. I want to avoid limitations based on the
operating platform. It does take playing around with a product a while to gain an
understanding of capabilities and problems.  I am sorry if "evaluate" sounds offensive
but that is clearly what I will be doing.  As a manager once told me, The optics of
a project are everything.  I have a positive opinion of Richards software capabilities
and think he should have the opportunity to make some money on the work he has done
so far with the 6022BE. It is not a complex project and Richard will be given the
first option once everything is defined.  As I said before it is an annoying little
scope but I really like the cosmetics of the hardware package.

So, it is too tickelish to ask if there is a later version of the software?

[Mark_O]

My interest in the 6022BE is different than most others here. Not interested in a free lunch.

So you're saying if you were offered one, you wouldn't accept?    Just pulling your leg.

I am sorry if "evaluate" sounds offensive but that is clearly what I will be doing.

I'm not sure why you are apologizing.  Nothing you have said has been offensive in any way.  And there's nothing wrong with evaluating it.  If you are referring to my comments (I haven't seen others responding to you, though they may have), they weren't intended to offend you either.  I was just curious to hear what your evaluation was, if you felt like sharing.

As I said before it is an annoying little scope but I really like the cosmetics of the hardware package.

Yes, it does have a nice case. 

So, it is too tickelish to ask if there is a later version of the software?

Not at all.  Matchless recently posted a link to the latest version from Hantek (v1.05, from last December).  I suspect you click on the OneDrive link there.  And the latest build of RichardK's version was PR18, announced and described here.  And the source code was linked to here.

Richard is still around (and posting here), taking notes, and indicated a while back he still intends to revisit this project, when time allows.

[mikeyb5753]

I have a positive opinion of Richards software capabilities
and think he should have the opportunity to make some money on the work he has done
so far with the 6022BE.

Couldn't agree more. 
He's done some amazing work to the software and I hope he releases more. 
He should consider a paypal donate link in the next release.

[daybyter]

Thanks for the sample outputs! I actually found another pin (not directly attached to the crystal) that is likely a lot better buffered and I got this:

Which is sort of what I would expect given the circumstances! Now on to measure the broken machine a bit more...

Sandos, if you have problems with the original probes, make yourself an adapter from a smaller connector, as you can see here:

http://www.forum64.de/wbb3/board2-c64-alles-rund-um-den-brotkasten/board4-hardware/board183-reparaturecke/47969-messpunkte-mit-dem-oszi-beim-c64/#post611263

(the picture at the end of the posting).

I used 5 or 6 layers of shrinking tube to thicken up the wire, so I can use a bigger tube finally that encloses the attached probe from the scope, so it's completely isolated and I can just put it anywhere withouth any danger of a potential shortcut.

[sandos]

Thanks for the sample outputs! I actually found another pin (not directly attached to the crystal) that is likely a lot better buffered and I got this:

Which is sort of what I would expect given the circumstances! Now on to measure the broken machine a bit more...

Sandos, if you have problems with the original probes, make yourself an adapter from a smaller connector, as you can see here:

http://www.forum64.de/wbb3/board2-c64-alles-rund-um-den-brotkasten/board4-hardware/board183-reparaturecke/47969-messpunkte-mit-dem-oszi-beim-c64/#post611263

(the picture at the end of the posting).

Thank you, that link is very helpful!

[Rick Law]

Thanks for the sample outputs! I actually found another pin (not directly attached to the crystal) that is likely a lot better buffered and I got this:

Which is sort of what I would expect given the circumstances! Now on to measure the broken machine a bit more...

Sandos, if you have problems with the original probes, make yourself an adapter from a smaller connector, as you can see here:

http://www.forum64.de/wbb3/board2-c64-alles-rund-um-den-brotkasten/board4-hardware/board183-reparaturecke/47969-messpunkte-mit-dem-oszi-beim-c64/#post611263

(the picture at the end of the posting).

I used 5 or 6 layers of shrinking tube to thicken up the wire, so I can use a bigger tube finally that encloses the attached probe from the scope, so it's completely isolated and I can just put it anywhere withouth any danger of a potential shortcut.

I do not read German, so I clicked  YES with Google-Chrome to "translate this page".  Here is what I see.  I added the bold.

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Measurement points with the oscilloscope with the C64
This thread is not meant as an introduction for troubleshooting. It assumes the following:
It was tested whether any ICs are unduly hot (= you burn your fingers)
The supply voltages were measured (See the matching thread in the repair corner).
If possible, all capped were tested ICs in a functioning board.

It is assumed also that basics of intercourse are available with the oscilloscope (you should have read the instructions and at least partially understood) and is known as one with a DIP IC pins counts. Ideally, you have a functioning board where you can make comparative measurements. The oscilloscope I use is a UNI-T UTD2102CEL, more than adequate for the hobby. For measurements in old computers with clocks below 10MHz, I use mostly the following settings:
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I personally would not need it, but having "availability of intercourse" would probably increase resell value of the scope.

[RichardK]

I personally would not need it, but having "availability of intercourse" would probably increase resell value of the scope.

I knew I forgot to add something...

[ebi_ham]

Sorry to bother you as a Newby: I don't find a download link to the Open6022 software or to the UserManual. Can you please guide me?

[RichardK]

Sorry to bother you as a Newby: I don't find a download link to the Open6022 software or to the UserManual. Can you please guide me?

Links to them can be found in the middle of the previous page.

[RedOctobyr]

Latest software, PR18, can be found here, in reply #540:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-6022be-20mhz-usb-dso/msg418102/#msg418102

The manual can be found here, in reply #747:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-6022be-20mhz-usb-dso/msg572503/?topicseen#msg572503

[ebi_ham]

RichardK & RedOctobyr

I found both UserManual and PR18. Many thanks to both of you! My 6022BE arrives on Monday - busy preparing for a "single opportunity" test next week...

[daybyter]

I would also download PR 17...just in case.

[RobMcRaf]

RichardK & RedOctobyr

I found both UserManual and PR18. Many thanks to both of you! My 6022BE arrives on Monday - busy preparing for a "single opportunity" test next week...

Single Opportunity?  Like you have 1 chance to get your data and then the thing dies/melts/explodes/expires?

[Matchless]

Finally received my Hantek HT25 test probe x10000. Connected to the 6022BE with the HT25 probe and the ignition coil on my bench simulator.
Settings at 20mS/Div and 200mV/Div. Although the resolution is not too good, one can clearly see the HT pulses going to the spark plugs.
I will see what happens if I use this probe on my old analogue scope!

First capture is what I got when zooming in a bit.

Second capture is with theprobe set to X10000 and the voltage set to 2.00kV.

Third capture shows driver pulse to the coil driver transistor and the actual HT pulse on the HT lead to the spark plug.

[Jeroi]

I wonder since there is newer model from Hantek DSO5200A PC USB 200MHZ 250MS/s Digital Storage Oscilloscope  does the reverse engineered software work with this?

Here is SDK and files for it: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/usb-oscilloscope-dso-5200a.html

[Mark_O]

I wonder since there is newer model from Hantek DSO5200A PC USB 200MHZ 250MS/s Digital Storage Oscilloscope  does the reverse engineered software work with this?

No.  The software interface, as well as all the characteristics of the device are completely different.  I don't know if the 5200A is really a "newer model" as you suggested, but that series, in those cases, have been around for a long time.  Something on Sigrok, or OpenHantek may support it though.  You may want to check there.

[frenky]

DSO-5200A is quite old model. I bough it in 2011 and a year later it stopped working...

[rosasharn]

Yes, there's a newer model Hantek6202BE, all the same as DSO5200, just the case change into metal.

[djcristi]

hantek just released a newer version of software v1.0.5 , download link

i will also download Open6022 to see which is better...

[rosasharn]

Thanks for notifying the update.
I'll check it out.