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Offline mophong

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #150 on: July 13, 2021, 03:01:06 am »
Thanks, darkstar49.
Since I have read all comments here I have seen someone needed to reprogram eeprom several times.
Anyway, it will be great if someone can confirm -VL and HBW options work for WS 24Xs?
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #151 on: July 13, 2021, 12:46:32 pm »
Anyway, it will be great if someone can confirm -VL and HBW options work for WS 24Xs?

regarding the acquisition memory, the name of the option is model-dependent... but I don't think that anything above -L will work on an Xs.
You could also try MMODEL, I think it enables 'maxmem' and -MSURF (and possibly -ATP), not clear to me... but you can proceed one option at a time.

Regarding the bandwidth, I've NEVER seen anybody being successful at modding a LeCroy's bandwidth, excepted for the WS400 series, where the service manual apparently mentions the h/w mod to get to 500MHz (mentioned somewhere in this thread). Bandwidth is limited by the FE, and those are different for each model, so you're unlikely to be successful with the ?BW options. No service manual ever leaked for the Xs/Xi series.
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #152 on: July 13, 2021, 02:08:28 pm »
I was asking for -VL option because in the scope's manual they mentioned only 2 memory options, standard (2.5 Mpts) and VL (10 Mpts). But, I will try MMODEL, it is "M model for WR Xi and WS Xs scope" and as I know MXs scope has standard memory of 10 Mpts.
As for HBW option, I actually don't wish to increase the scope bandwidth, just read the comments about DECODE_MEASURE, HBW option may be required to enable DECODE_MEASURE. However I now realize that issue may not the case of WSXs.
Thanks again.
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2021, 02:46:27 am »
Anyone has list of working options on WaveSurfer 24Xs? Don't dare to desolder eeprom.
Thanks,

I was able to read the EEPROM while it's still on the PCB, using a UART reader described here, so you might not need to desolder it.
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #154 on: July 27, 2021, 06:47:00 pm »
Just a note that the python scripts work fine under Linux, no need to deal with Windows
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #155 on: July 30, 2021, 04:11:19 pm »
Just a note that the python scripts work fine under Linux, no need to deal with Windows

We had the same discussion last November... Mac OS seemed screwed as well, but I didn't spend 15' on it, jumped into some Linux VM and voilà, it worked...
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #156 on: September 07, 2021, 08:41:13 pm »
Let's update the reference to the latest MAUI version.

This is a work in progress, but I think it already provides a good view of all options.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2023, 09:36:29 pm by tv84 »
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #157 on: September 07, 2021, 11:53:07 pm »
I pulled together some information on the options for the DDA-120/LC584 scopes which included links to documentation if I could find it.  Should help to determine what options would be useful in a given situation.  This is a zipped html file.
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #158 on: September 09, 2021, 01:48:01 pm »
I pulled together some information on the options for the DDA-120/LC584 scopes which included links to documentation if I could find it.  Should help to determine what options would be useful in a given situation.  This is a zipped html file.

Nice document. Thank you :)

btw, there's some documents on groups.io Lecroy group. https://groups.io/g/LeCroyOwnersGroup/. Ex: the 140pages Jitter & Timing
Analysis manual.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2021, 01:08:03 am by Kosmic »
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #159 on: September 18, 2021, 07:13:27 pm »
Yes, that's a much better document.  Thanks for the pointer!
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #160 on: October 15, 2021, 05:47:57 pm »
I got a WS MXi-A and want to upgrade :)

As i have to dismantle the scope i want to Upgrade the fans and the CPU as well
Guess a Intel Celeron M 450 2.0GHz 533MHz SL9KX should work?  (I know its not a big step, but a least 11%) :-)

Any recommendation for replacing the fans?

Are there Manuals around like for the old 4xx series?  :-)

Thanks for all hints
Bastian
« Last Edit: October 16, 2021, 04:13:45 pm by RedCali »
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2021, 07:52:46 pm »
I got a WS MXi-A and want to upgrade :)

As i have to dismantle the scope i want to Upgrade the fans and the CPU as well
Guess a Intel Celeron M 450 2.0GHz 533MHz SL9KX should work?  (I know its not a big step, but a least 11%) :-)

Any recommendation for replacing the fans?

Are there Manuals around like for the old 4xx series?  :-)

Thanks for all hints
Bastian


wrong thread somehow...
and do you mean WR MXi-A or WS MXs-A ?

As for the fans, those from LeCroy are pretty OK (at least in the Xi-A/Xs-A/B series), most fans with the same size won't be any better. Just make sure the feet are deployed while using (air is sucked from below), and have a cool workplace... ;-
For the CPU, I'm not with you... any Xs-A/B or Xi-A should support a Core 2 Duo T7600, which is light-years ahead of a Celeron M 450 !!

For the manuals, wrong place, check the LeCroy Owner's group... I think the 4xx SM is available (to be checked , I never had any WS 4xx)

Have fun ! (and open a new thread if you have further questions / topics to discuss around modding your scope)
 
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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #162 on: November 09, 2021, 07:13:48 pm »
Fixed **** __init__.py needed in both the unlock and lec directories *****

Trying to run this and getting:

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C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock>python list.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "list.py", line 3, in <module>
    import lec.db
ImportError: No module named lec.db

What have I got wrong?

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C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock>dir lec
 Volume in drive C is SYSTEM
 Volume Serial Number is C0B0-1E33

 Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec

11/10/2021  07:03 PM    <DIR>          .
11/10/2021  07:03 PM    <DIR>          ..
07/28/2021  08:26 AM               544 crypto.py
07/28/2021  08:25 AM             8,616 db.py
07/28/2021  08:24 AM               761 key.py
               3 File(s)          9,921 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  67,520,266,240 bytes free

Thanks, D
« Last Edit: November 10, 2021, 12:17:50 pm by perdrix »
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #163 on: November 10, 2021, 12:30:51 pm »
Oh dear this isn't quite as expected:
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C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock>python list.py options.
cfg
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "list.py", line 8, in <module>
    db = lec.db.fromfile(argv[1])
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec\db.py", line 301, in fromfile
    return LicDBv2(LicReader(fname))
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec\db.py", line 275, in __init__
    self.categories = LoadGroup(reader, LicCategory)
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec\db.py", line 232, in LoadGroup
    num = reader.GetInt()
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec\db.py", line 77, in GetInt
    t, v = self.get()
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\LeCroyUser\My Documents\Unlock\lec\db.py", line 66, in get
    raise LicError("Unsupported type %02X" % (t))
lec.db.LicError: Unsupported type 8936

This is with XStream 8.1.2.0 installed.

Does anyone have a slightly earlier version of the options.cfg file that the python scripts can decode?

Or an updated version of db.py that supports the newer format?

Thanks
David
« Last Edit: November 10, 2021, 01:24:38 pm by perdrix »
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #164 on: November 10, 2021, 04:14:12 pm »
Oh dear this isn't quite as expected:
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This is with XStream 8.1.2.0 installed.
......

There is already file with mostly all options listed to download, just read the tread carefully - may choose "all" and search for ".zip" will guide you to: (its a link to an early reply in thsi tread)

Just for future reference.

 There are the most common options listed, so no need to gen the list by your own - and the scripts do not work for options files > 8.x.x.x
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #165 on: November 11, 2021, 01:45:21 pm »
Accidently used 03-00000020 RSR Reduced Sample Rate. How can I remove it,
Now my sample rate is limited to 1GS. This is the only key in the list that I can't remove.
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #166 on: November 14, 2021, 02:33:33 pm »
Just for future reference.
same...
- Lecroy-Options-8.1.0.1.txt

has anyone tried to use the options within flag #08? Seems as they are wrongly generated - maybe to "new"....

Example:
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08-00002000 I2C_TDME 
08-00004000 SPI_TDME 
08-00008000 UART_TDME


result after validation - the flag add the option is "0":
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Flags: 08
Mask: 0000E000
Options:
00-00002000 USB
00-00004000 SPI_TDME
00-00008000 UART_TDME

in the scope, the key leads in totally different options...
Any ideas / guessing?
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2021, 05:12:47 pm »
Does anyone have any info on options for a LeCroy/Catalyst Conquest SBAE30B USB protocol analyzer?
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #168 on: December 14, 2021, 09:44:01 am »
If you look at https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/lecroy-ws-434-runs-in-demo-mode-as-a-wavestation/

You'll see that I have a WS434 that starts in Demo mode.   I suspect that this may be because the options key that tells the 'scope it is a WaveSurfer has become corrupt.   This key is held in the DS2433 EEPROM on the PCI card:

Section 6.4.1 PCI Board Exchange Procedure says:

   The WaveSurfer uses option keys to identify the correct model number, memory size and software options.
   These option keys must be re-installed if the PCI board is exchanged..

So how can I re-rewrite the option keys in the EEPROM without using XStream to do so?   I'm sure there is a command line way to do it!

Wo ist der Würstchenhund wenn man ihn braucht!

David
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #169 on: December 14, 2021, 01:13:14 pm »
Hi,
I don`t know the demo versions. Can you enter the service menu? Then you could delete all the option keys. But I guess this is not possible.
With more effort involved is the variant of the user sixtimesseven. He explained this on page 3 of this thread. He also attached the necessary code for Arduino and a dump of his eeprom. It's quite simple to change the options keys in the EEPROM. But you have to desolder the IC on the PCI board.
There is no other known option.

Bes regards
Momchilo
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #170 on: December 14, 2021, 01:32:07 pm »
When XStream switches to Demo mode the keys etc. that are presented are AFAIK nothing to do with the real ones.

In any case (as it turns out) the EEPROM wasn't corrupt - see other thread.

Thanks
David
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #171 on: December 14, 2021, 02:39:34 pm »
AFAIK, isn't it possible to install the option "00-00000020  DEV" which should allow the removal of other licenses?
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #172 on: December 14, 2021, 02:43:16 pm »
AFAIK, that's not relevant in Demo mode.  The Scope Id and Serial no are unrelated to the real device

David
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #173 on: December 14, 2021, 02:53:08 pm »
Isn't DEMO mode just activated by?

01-00002000  DEMOSCOPE
 

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Re: Lecroy options -=recovery=-
« Reply #174 on: December 14, 2021, 03:23:52 pm »
But if you look in the other thread, there are only 2 keys stored in the eeprom.
This was posted by perdrix:
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00000000   F0 00 00 01 02 00 00 02 00 00 FF FF 00 00 42 38  ð.............B8
00000010   34 33 39 36 41 38 36 38 43 31 34 43 42 34 00 01  4396A868C14CB4..
00000020   37 41 34 32 41 34 46 39 30 35 46 42 35 35 33 33  7A42A4F905FB5533
00000030   00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000040   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000050   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000060   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000070   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000080   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000090   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000A0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000B0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000C0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000D0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000E0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000F0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000100   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000110   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000120   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000130   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000140   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000150   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000160   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000170   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000180   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00000190   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001A0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001B0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001C0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001D0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001E0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000001F0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................

Those keys are for the medium bandwidth (03-00000008 MBW) and long memory option (01-00000002 -L). Other keys aren't installed.
 


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