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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #450 on: September 23, 2024, 07:08:56 am »
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #451 on: September 23, 2024, 07:25:30 am »
As far as I know, those of us in the USA still can't order it.  They never respond to me and I'm surprised that their pre-sales support hasn't been more responsive.

Please excuse my late response to your question. We normally read all posts in this forum thread and answer questions.

Before we start selling the Magnova to the USA and Canada, we want to ensure that we fully comply with all regulations. As we are based in Europe, this market is of course easier for us to access and the European regulations are familiar to us and easy for us to comply with. We are currently focusing on the market launch in Europe, on expanding our production capacities, on completing the optional modules (function generator and logic analyser) and on the first software updates. We currently expect to be able to deal with the US and Canadian requirements in the first and second quarter of 2025. If everything goes smoothly, we will be able to accept and deliver orders from the USA and Canada in the second quarter of 2025.

We understand that the Magnova introductory discount is of course attractive and that you may wish to take advantage of it. We will then come up with something for the market launch in the USA and Canada, perhaps there will then be a separate introductory discount campaign for these countries.

And if Batronix doesn't change anything, the price will apply from 1 October.
I bet you the discount will be extended.

As some assumptions have already been made here, I would like to give you an insight into our plans:

As of 1 October, the introductory discounts for the BMO200/350 will be reduced from 30% to 25% and those for the BMO100 from 20% to 15%. There will be further reductions thereafter.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #452 on: September 23, 2024, 07:56:55 am »
The statistics function is also a great addition. While the numerical values are the most useful, seeing the variation on a graph is a real bonus. As for the math functions, they cover a wide range of logical and mathematical operators. However, some functions are still missing, such as the absolute value, for instance.

Thank you for pointing out that the absolute value maths function is missing. We will be happy to add it in one of the upcoming updates. Please let me know if you can think of any other maths functions that we can add.

However, Batronix currently doesn’t provide a platform to retrieve firmware updates, which is an area for improvement.

We will provide a page for the Magnova software/firmware updates in the coming weeks.

The probe ports seem designed for active probes, but nothing in the menus currently supports their full use. I wasn’t bothered by the side-mounted probe setup either.

There are currently no Magnova-specific active probes available. We recommend manufacturer-independent active probes such as those from Micsig, Testec and other manufacturers.

Having experience purchasing scientific equipment, I can confidently say that, in this price range (with the current promotion), the Magnova offers more than any other oscilloscope. I’m very happy with my purchase and hope Batronix will provide regular updates to improve the software.

Thank you for your great feedback. We still have a lot of ideas and will continue to improve the Magnova with future updates.

A few improvements would be welcome, such as the ability to split the screen for each channel or to adjust the font size. One of my colleagues, in his fifties, had difficulty reading the X and Y axis divisions.

Displaying the channels in separate ‘split screen’ windows is a major enhancement. We already have a new Magnova window docking system in the pipeline that will make this possible. However, this major enhancement is not expected to be released until the second quarter of 2025.

Thanks for the suggestion with the adjustable step size for the axis labelling. I have immediately added it to our wish list for the next updates.

Moreover, the arbitrary waveform generator accessory won’t be delivered until next May, so no Bode plot function until then.

We currently expect to be able to deliver the logic analyser and generator modules from March 2025. Development is already very advanced and we will also be presenting these at the electronica trade fair in Munich.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #453 on: September 23, 2024, 10:07:35 am »
One last OT post from me:
The “small” one next to it is a 10” SDS2104Xplus...
Still booting with Windows boot screen and Acronis partition master?  :)
 

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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #454 on: September 25, 2024, 07:21:10 am »
I have no scope yet,  but there is a new FW:

List of changes from version 1.0.6 to 1.0.7:

  • New maths functions and constants: abs, log, phi, √2.
  • New function: The search now also supports the "window" search type.
  • New function: Loading the last settings can be skipped at startup by pressing and holding the "Run/Stop" button and the top rotary knob.
  • New setting: In the standard setting, the fan is only switched on when the device is fully warmed up at an ambient temperature of approx. 40 °C. A new setting now allows the fan to be activated earlier if required, thus reducing the offset drift.
  • Optimization: The occupied memory is now displayed and no longer the free memory for USB sticks and the internal memory. The previous display could easily be misunderstood.
  • Optimization: The trigger time is restored after the search is ended.
  • Optimization: The probe readout is executed again after loading setups in order to adjust the settings.
  • Bugfix: The roll mode now starts immediately (previously the start could be delayed depending on the settings).
  • Bugfix: The trigger channel setting ‘AC Line’ is now also saved in the settings data.
  • Bugfix: When combining the dBV display with a probe divider factor, a crash could occur in the FFT display.
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #455 on: September 25, 2024, 07:35:41 am »
May I ask where you saw this info ?
 

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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #456 on: September 25, 2024, 07:48:20 am »
May I ask where you saw this info ?
Yes. I got a mail.
 

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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #457 on: September 25, 2024, 08:08:15 am »
Tnx.

And did you get the firmware also?
 

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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #458 on: September 25, 2024, 08:16:46 am »
The statistics function is also a great addition. While the numerical values are the most useful, seeing the variation on a graph is a real bonus. As for the math functions, they cover a wide range of logical and mathematical operators. However, some functions are still missing, such as the absolute value, for instance.

As Woody has already mentioned above, a software update is available. Among other things, the function you requested for the maths channels (absolute value) has also been added.

How to perform the update:

Alternatively, you can update the Magnova directly over the internet:
  • Ensure your Magnova is connected to the network.
  • In the update dialog, select the "Network" option to perform the update automatically via the internet.

We will create an web page with the update details, version and change information in the coming weeks. Currently, we are manually informing customers who have already received a Magnova.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #459 on: September 25, 2024, 08:41:24 am »
  • New maths functions and constants: abs, log, phi, √2.
√2?
The input gets scaled by 1.41? Or does it calculate the square root of the input?
 

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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #460 on: September 25, 2024, 09:36:16 am »
The statistics function is also a great addition. While the numerical values are the most useful, seeing the variation on a graph is a real bonus. As for the math functions, they cover a wide range of logical and mathematical operators. However, some functions are still missing, such as the absolute value, for instance.

As Woody has already mentioned above, a software update is available. Among other things, the function you requested for the maths channels (absolute value) has also been added.

How to perform the update:

Alternatively, you can update the Magnova directly over the internet:
  • Ensure your Magnova is connected to the network.
  • In the update dialog, select the "Network" option to perform the update automatically via the internet.

We will create an web page with the update details, version and change information in the coming weeks. Currently, we are manually informing customers who have already received a Magnova.

tnx.

Btw, we ordered a BMO200 this morning :-)
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #461 on: September 25, 2024, 10:52:17 am »
√2?
The input gets scaled by 1.41? Or does it calculate the square root of the input?

We have added sqrt(2) (=√2) as a further constant alongside e, pi and phi.

The sqrt function can also be applied to channels or terms (e.g. sqrt(CH1) or sqrt(CH1+2*CH2).
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #462 on: September 25, 2024, 10:53:42 am »
Btw, we ordered a BMO200 this morning :-)

Thank you!  :-+
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #463 on: September 25, 2024, 11:00:24 am »
We have added sqrt(2) (=√2) as a further constant alongside e, pi and phi.
The sqrt function can also be applied to channels or terms (e.g. sqrt(CH1) or sqrt(CH1+2*CH2).
Ah I see, thanks.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #464 on: September 26, 2024, 01:04:32 pm »
Look what I got today ;D

The learning curve has started  8)
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #465 on: September 26, 2024, 02:22:51 pm »
About updating the Magnova, that is a real breath of fresh air. Plug in a network cable and select 'Network' as source. The address where the update can be found is pre-filled.  Press 'Update' twice to confirm and about a minute later the Magnova is updated and shuts down. Power it on and it continues with its latest settings.

No hassle with finding the latest binary, only being able to download it after creating an account where you have to leave your name, mail address and whatnot, then prepare a USB stick with the file in the right folder et cetera.

Not sure how well this all is protected from attacks (HTTP://?) but it does work flawlessly.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #466 on: September 26, 2024, 02:23:56 pm »
I would like to see a short movie of an FFT spectral analysis with at least 1-2Mpoints or at least an opinion related to this aspect.

Or any other demonstration of processing speed (3-4 math calculations simultaneously) or anything interesting that would highlight certain functions.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #467 on: September 26, 2024, 02:28:30 pm »
Can the right columns be hidden to use more space for the signal?
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #468 on: September 26, 2024, 02:42:44 pm »
Can the right columns be hidden to use more space for the signal?

Yeah, things are getting a bit crammed on that little screen.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #469 on: September 26, 2024, 02:47:31 pm »
Can the right columns be hidden to use more space for the signal?
Not AFAICS.

But I powered it on 90 minutes ago, so it might be that I overlooked this.
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #470 on: September 26, 2024, 03:04:01 pm »
Can the right columns be hidden to use more space for the signal?

Yeah, things are getting a bit crammed on that little screen.

OK so 15.6” (39.6 cm) is small screen on a scope now.....  :-DD
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #471 on: September 26, 2024, 03:04:45 pm »
Can the right columns be hidden to use more space for the signal?

There is no ‘signal full screen mode’ yet, but we already have this on our update wish list.  :)
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #472 on: September 26, 2024, 03:17:44 pm »
Yeah, things are getting a bit crammed on that little screen.

OK so 15.6” (39.6 cm) is small screen on a scope now.....  :-DD

I thought in that particular case I could get by without a smiley, for better effect. Apparently not... So here's one which you can attach at your convenience:  ;)
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #473 on: September 26, 2024, 03:38:41 pm »
Yeah, things are getting a bit crammed on that little screen.

OK so 15.6” (39.6 cm) is small screen on a scope now.....  :-DD

I thought in that particular case I could get by without a smiley, for better effect. Apparently not... So here's one which you can attach at your convenience:  ;)

32"inch is soooo much better  ;D
 
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Re: Magnova oscilloscope
« Reply #474 on: September 26, 2024, 03:43:03 pm »
Hello,

will the resolution really be higher?

Best regards
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