New ANENG Q1 9999 Counts ?

[Fungus]

well here is a tiny one with a lot of functions ...

https://ebay.us/A3r85e via @eBay

Maybe you should check the dimensions again...

(and the ZT301 is better)

[GreyWoolfe]

It cannot be very occurate by design and it is not, no question. Not only not occurate and pure design,  it has also bugs and is not safe. It is very expensive piece of plastic.

Yes, the Aneng meter is a total waste of time, and anyone even thinking of it is best avoided...
Err, remind me again why you are frequenting this thread? 

It depends on your usage.  Not everyone's usage will be the same.  Just because it is a piece of junk to you, doesn't mean it is to someone else.  I have 2 in my company van, one as a spare in case I leave 1 behind at a site.  The meter has a very specific use checking a low resistance pass/fail on a field replaceable unit.  The meters compare favorably in readings to to my 5.5 digit bench meter.  Better yet, the 2 meters and a set of gold plated Brymen leads were less than the cost of a Fluke 101 and the small size is perfect for my toolbag.  The meters will never see mains voltage.  They may do continuity checks and DCV checks but the pass/fail resistance checks are the main usage.  On top of that I did the mods on both meters and they settle down very quickly when taking a reading.  There simply is no room in my toolbag to carry my Fluke 27/FM and I just gave my Velleman meter to one of my sons-in-law.  My other meters are bench meters.  For me, a good financial investment.  As always, YMMV.   

[ebastler]

It cannot be very occurate by design and it is not, no question. Not only not occurate and pure design,  it has also bugs and is not safe. It is very expensive piece of plastic.

Yes, the Aneng meter is a total waste of time, and anyone even thinking of it is best avoided...
Err, remind me again why you are frequenting this thread? 

It depends on your usage.  Not everyone's usage will be the same.  Just because it is a piece of junk to you, doesn't mean it is to someone else. [...]

I am very much with you on that. Hope it was clear that my post was meant as a tongue-in-cheek reply to MiroS's comment. (Or actually tongue-outside-of-cheek, looking at the smiley...)

[malagas_on_fire]

well here is a tiny one with a lot of functions ...

https://ebay.us/A3r85e via @eBay

Maybe you should check the dimensions again...

(and the ZT301 is better)

well in fact they are don't look much bigger from the images , but the buttons should add somewere Even then they are not very big multimeters.

Yes  it's different in the way that has the individual positions for currents and also temperature, but it looses the square wave.. and a off position

[GreyWoolfe]

It cannot be very occurate by design and it is not, no question. Not only not occurate and pure design,  it has also bugs and is not safe. It is very expensive piece of plastic.

Yes, the Aneng meter is a total waste of time, and anyone even thinking of it is best avoided...
Err, remind me again why you are frequenting this thread? 

It depends on your usage.  Not everyone's usage will be the same.  Just because it is a piece of junk to you, doesn't mean it is to someone else. [...]

I am very much with you on that. Hope it was clear that my post was meant as a tongue-in-cheek reply to MiroS's comment. (Or actually tongue-outside-of-cheek, looking at the smiley...)

Is is tongue in cheek or tongue at the right angle.  That's when the meter works the best!

[malagas_on_fire]

One thing is for sure on these meters, is that they don't stand well as the rugged ones or with holster, The Aneng Q1 also falls easly?

[GreyWoolfe]

They don't.  I find myself using the Anengs laying down, unlike my Fluke 27/FM.  It is a very strong stand, no movement at all.  I would hazard a guess that if I were using them every day, the weak stand might bother me.  For the occasional use they get, laying them down is fine.  When I am on a short time frame to complete the call, I can't be arsed to worry about the meter falling over, on its back it goes.

[Johnboy]

Picture submitted for approximate size comparison (ANENG Q1 to ZT301), not to derail thread:

Models are Zotek ZT301 (on left, used only for low current measurements) and  ZT109/AN8008 (on right, used primarily for low voltage measurements).

[MiroS]

It cannot be very occurate by design and it is not, no question. Not only not occurate and pure design,  it has also bugs and is not safe. It is very expensive piece of plastic.

Yes, the Aneng meter is a total waste of time, and anyone even thinking of it is best avoided...
Err, remind me again why you are frequenting this thread? 

It depends on your usage.  Not everyone's usage will be the same.  Just because it is a piece of junk to you, doesn't mean it is to someone else. [...]

I am very much with you on that. Hope it was clear that my post was meant as a tongue-in-cheek reply to MiroS's comment. (Or actually tongue-outside-of-cheek, looking at the smiley...)

Eee .... every piece of plastic can be useful for something,  case of Aneng will be a good  soap dish probably or for smoething else maybe. Yes, use case is important, but what useful tool this will be if you have to remember - not in use for high voltage, not measure high current, think twice * 10 in which socet are you leads and what you are going to do, discharge youself before touching leads .... etc. etc.

[001]

Yes, use case is important, but what useful tool this will be if you have to remember - not in use for high voltage, not measure high current, think twice * 10 in which socet are you leads and what you are going to do, discharge youself before touching leads .... etc. etc.

Nobody know his death time. It is a sin

[Johnboy]

I use the two cheap meters above in dedicated tandem, not because I'm afraid I'll forget what they're safe to be used for, but to remind myself not to flip the range switch unnecessarily during measurements and then have to replace tiny fuses after making one of My Careless Mistakes (TM). For those of us who can't justify the expense of an 80,000 count bench meter, they work well enough that I can put off using them as soap dishes for a year or so. I try not to confuse the display precision with genuine accuracy. I don't think these Aneng/Zotek meters are the greatest thing since sliced bread, far from it; but if you've used the free Harbor Freight meters, you can see why this is a marked upgrade. On the other hand, I can generally remember not to use those to try to discover what's going on with my electric clothes dryer either.

[MiroS]

It cannot be very occurate by design and it is not, no question. Not only not occurate and pure design,  it has also bugs and is not safe. It is very expensive piece of plastic.

Yes, the Aneng meter is a total waste of time, and anyone even thinking of it is best avoided...
Err, remind me again why you are frequenting this thread? 

It depends on your usage.  Not everyone's usage will be the same.  Just because it is a piece of junk to you, doesn't mean it is to someone else.  I have 2 in my company van, one as a spare in case I leave 1 behind at a site.  The meter has a very specific use checking a low resistance pass/fail on a field replaceable unit.  The meters compare favorably in readings to to my 5.5 digit bench meter.  Better yet, the 2 meters and a set of gold plated Brymen leads were less than the cost of a Fluke 101 and the small size is perfect for my toolbag.  The meters will never see mains voltage.  They may do continuity checks and DCV checks but the pass/fail resistance checks are the main usage.  On top of that I did the mods on both meters and they settle down very quickly when taking a reading.  There simply is no room in my toolbag to carry my Fluke 27/FM and I just gave my Velleman meter to one of my sons-in-law.  My other meters are bench meters.  For me, a good financial investment.  As always, YMMV.   

I concluded the other day that if I sum all money spent for cheap metters  I relized immediately that  buying them has no any sense. Maybe only for fun, looking how badly they are made or how to hide reality behind marketing blablabla. people tend to take all if it free or close enaugh to free, no matter if they resly need this or it make any sense.

[Fungus]

I concluded the other day that if I sum all money spent for cheap metters  I relized immediately that  buying them has no any sense.

People who buy expensive meters say the same thing.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/

[MiroS]

I concluded the other day that if I sum all money spent for cheap metters  I relized immediately that  buying them has no any sense.

People who buy expensive meters say the same thing.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/

People from this thread do not buy ANENG , they    buy   HP , Tektronix, Fluke ...  all usually for bargin price .  20- 30 USD for something like ANENG , it is way  much for it for me, e.g. Fluke 87V cost was 46EUR and 1 day repair, so  really ... 

[GreyWoolfe]

People from this thread do not buy ANENG , they    buy   HP , Tektronix, Fluke ...  all usually for bargin price .  20- 30 USD for something like ANENG , it is way  much for it for me, e.g. Fluke 87V cost was 46EUR and 1 day repair, so  really ... 

Sure we do, at least I do.  I have nicer meters, GW-Instek GDM-8251A, 2 HP 3466A and I am working on an HP 3478A, on the bench, a Fluke 27/FM for around the house and a Velleman I am giving to one of sons-in-law.  None of the above work for work.  The Anengs meet my very modest work requirements as stated in previous posts.  If I have to troubleshoot real voltage issues including mains voltages into power supplies, the equipment will get swapped out and I have 1 of the 3466As for the work side of things on that half of the bench.

I am not a snobby fanboy by any means.  I have 3 HP meters because the price was right.  Same thing for the Fluke and GW-Instek.  I buy what I can squeeze the money out for.  I have under $500 USD tied up in all 8 of my meters together, including buying a handful of Brymen test leads from Frankie.  I would love to have a pair of HP 3458As but that is unrealistic.  For the cost of just one, I bought my retired company van as a second vehicle.  Mrs GreyWoolfe is quite happy about having it.  She would not be so happy with me spending that much on a piece of "blinky sh!t" (her words) on my workbench.    is what she would do to me if I tried to do that.

Regardless of what you spend, $20 or $4500 for a meter, if you understand your meter's capabilities and limitations, does it really matter what the cost is if it does the job you need it to do?  I guarantee if I lose one of my Anengs, I will certainly replace it with another.  The only time it will spend in the house is to do the mods to it or replace batteries, otherwise it will live in the company van with its partner.

[Fungus]

People from this thread do not buy ANENG

Rubbish. I've got three .

AB860B+  AN8008  AN101)

[rsjsouza]

TBH, I suspect that by "this", MiroS meant "that" - in other words: instead of "the thread I am currently writing on" to "the thread just above my sentence" 

I concluded the other day that if I sum all money spent for cheap metters  I relized immediately that  buying them has no any sense.

People who buy expensive meters say the same thing.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/

People from this that thread do not buy ANENG , they    buy   HP , Tektronix, Fluke ...  all usually for bargin price .  20- 30 USD for something like ANENG , it is way  much for it for me, e.g. Fluke 87V cost was 46EUR and 1 day repair, so  really ... 

[MacMeter]

Be great if I spoke the language, but even then can’t hear the audio, recorded incredibly LOW. Haven’t we seen this model here before?

[malagas_on_fire]

Well it is in my native language but english would be more easier to all viewers. The multimeter felt at 17:53

[J_C]

There is a Richmeters 409B variant of this on ebay right now for $8 Buy It Now.

Price almost seems too low, but There It Is.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/With-Analog-Bar-Graph-NCV-AC-DC-RM409B-True-RMS-Digital-Multimeter-9999-Counts/283331646211

[floobydust]

Looks like a real bargain. These DMM's are OTP so blowout pricing is used to clear out bad firmware builds, or other "issues".

[Fungus]

Looks like a real bargain.

Except it's a rubbish meter. I wouldn't buy one at any price.

[floobydust]

I don't use these chinese builds as my main DMM, for something reliable to depend upon. That is for the made in USA DMM's...
But for $8, use it as a digital panel meter. Unless J_C is shill

[malagas_on_fire]

Similar deal but a sticker covers the Amps sockets. Ammeter ANENG Q1 True-RMS Digital Multimeter 9999:

https://ebay.us/uJHCMz

Can't see all text of the seal but looks like only a warning sticker

[Fungus]

Similar deal but a sticker covers the Amps sockets. Ammeter ANENG Q1

https://ebay.us/uJHCMz

Wouldn't that make it everything except an "ammeter"?