new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004

[Neurosurg]

First pic - my scope as I get info form R&S Vendor dealer that is highly end, The oscilloscope, for example, is much better balanced, math has been there before, but a lot has been done. So for me there is no tragedy, I am still very happy.

A the end FFT in RTB2004-COM4, for me compare to cost are had to made ($3850) for a brand new plus
transport bag for free as a gift.I think I will leave the oscilloscope unless you disgust me so much that I have to give it back he he: D

Best wishes,
Michael.

[Neurosurg]

On siglent/lecroy you can define the colour of all traces(zoom, math, all channels, and so on) in a "free" manner (colour palette).

% too?
The color define is well the same wide.

[tautech]

On siglent/lecroy you can define the colour of all traces(zoom, math, all channels, and so on) in a "free" manner (colour palette).

% too?
The color define is well the same wide.

From a Siglent webpage (easier to find than the screenshots posted before)

[weekendEE]

Looking at the MXO 4 options I see there is a hardware option for "Mixed signal option for R&S®MXO4" with the description "Mixed signal, for R&S®MXO4 oscilloscopes, 16 channels, 5Gsa/s (hardware option)"

Upon further googling it appears this package is just two 8 channel logic probes, do you all think that the cheaper RT-ZL03 probes could be used instead of dropping 3,000 dollars for this option?

[nctnico]

Looking at the MXO 4 options I see there is a hardware option for "Mixed signal option for R&S®MXO4" with the description "Mixed signal, for R&S®MXO4 oscilloscopes, 16 channels, 5Gsa/s (hardware option)"

Upon further googling it appears this package is just two 8 channel logic probes, do you all think that the cheaper RT-ZL03 probes could be used instead of dropping 3,000 dollars for this option?

No. The  RT-ZL03 uses a low cost ribbon cable + connector while the higher end oscilloscopes use a wide HDMI connector.

[edavid]

Looking at the MXO 4 options I see there is a hardware option for "Mixed signal option for R&S®MXO4" with the description "Mixed signal, for R&S®MXO4 oscilloscopes, 16 channels, 5Gsa/s (hardware option)"

Upon further googling it appears this package is just two 8 channel logic probes, do you all think that the cheaper RT-ZL03 probes could be used instead of dropping 3,000 dollars for this option?

The package probably includes a software option code, as well as the probes.

[Neurosurg]

On siglent/lecroy you can define the colour of all traces(zoom, math, all channels, and so on) in a "free" manner (colour palette).

% too?
The color define is well the same wide.

From a Siglent webpage (easier to find than the screenshots posted before)

I don't have time to play with colors so deep in this issue, but on RTE1000 also is a App for fully free whatever you want on colors. Look carfully, is possibility to set / define color for Source: e.g. C1 (Channel one) and so on and so on.
And the edition is nearly simillar.
Pointless discution.

Best wishes,
Miichael.

[pdenisowski]

Looking at the MXO 4 options I see there is a hardware option for "Mixed signal option for R&S®MXO4" with the description "Mixed signal, for R&S®MXO4 oscilloscopes, 16 channels, 5Gsa/s (hardware option)"

Upon further googling it appears this package is just two 8 channel logic probes, do you all think that the cheaper RT-ZL03 probes could be used instead of dropping 3,000 dollars for this option?

No. The  RT-ZL03 uses a low cost ribbon cable + connector while the higher end oscilloscopes use a wide HDMI connector.

This is correct - the RT-ZL03 connector is primarily for the RTB scopes, while the MXO4 (and most other R&S scopes) uses the HDMI-like RT-ZL04 (see photo)

[weekendEE]

Ah interesting thank you for the clarification! Really hoping there might be a full package promo on the horizon for the MXO4, my add ons cart has stacked up to a significant amount.

[EEVblog]

Ah interesting thank you for the clarification! Really hoping there might be a full package promo on the horizon for the MXO4, my add ons cart has stacked up to a significant amount.

Not that I am aware of. I was told that due to component supply issues, production is tight, so that might impact any deals. But I'd be surprised if your dealer doesn't have the leeway to bundle some options to get the sale.
I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Also, I was reminded that the RTB2000 is rather an old model, so, umm... 

[pdenisowski]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

[Martin72]

Hey, I´m very special too...

[2N3055]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Good to know that people in Australia local HQ are not special...   

[Rich@RohdeScopesUSA]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Good to know that people in Australia local HQ are not special...   

LOL - they're important too - but we wanted to make sure Dave would get one ASAP 

-Rich

[2N3055]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Good to know that people in Australia local HQ are not special...   

LOL - they're important too - but we wanted to make sure Dave would get one ASAP 

-Rich

I know, I know,  but it was too good to pass up!! ( Sorry @pdenisowski, no hard feelings, I hope!)

Take care Rich!!
Sinisa

[Rich@RohdeScopesUSA]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Good to know that people in Australia local HQ are not special...   

LOL - they're important too - but we wanted to make sure Dave would get one ASAP 

-Rich

Take care Rich!!
Sinisa

You too

-Rich

[Rich@RohdeScopesUSA]

Too many things (aka competitor's new babies) currently going on on EEVBLOG for R&S to spend time entertaining their AUS HQ people...

I genuinely wish I could make things happen that fast - this has been in progress for some time. 

-Rich

[pdenisowski]

I know, I know,  but it was too good to pass up!! ( Sorry @pdenisowski, no hard feelings, I hope!)

None whatsoever We're all one big happy family here at R&S.

(Seriously - it's a great place to work)

[nctnico]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Good to know that people in Australia local HQ are not special...   

LOL - they're important too - but we wanted to make sure Dave would get one ASAP 

Hmm, don't get Aussies or Kiwis started on support from overseas companies. It can be a very sensitive subject.

[tv84]

Gentlemen, beware! R&S staff is sponsoring the derailing of this thread!

BTW, kudos to both R&S members for participating in the forum. Truly enrich the forum and increases my respect for the R&S brand. 

[balnazzar]

I now have my MXO4 in the lab ready for unboxing, much to the chagrin of the local HQ who don't have one 

Only very special people get one of the first MXO4s 

Only very special people get one, no matter when. Period 

[Neurosurg]

Too many things (aka competitor's new babies) currently going on on EEVBLOG for R&S to spend time entertaining their AUS HQ people...

I genuinely wish I could make things happen that fast - this has been in progress for some time. 

-Rich

Rich there are rumors that the MXO4 is going to replace the RTE1000, is that true?
Secondly, I have a request, I do not want to take up your time, but please direct me where I should ask for RTE loan for tests, I guess there will be no problem with that?
Dave mentioned in the post above that the RTB2000 is an old oscilloscope, I do not know where the campaign for this model is from, I am extremely happy with it, instead of buying RTM3004-COM4, ​​I preferred to spend much more money on RTE1024 with full opt.

Thank you very much,
Yours sincerely,

Michael

[Rich@RohdeScopesUSA]

Too many things (aka competitor's new babies) currently going on on EEVBLOG for R&S to spend time entertaining their AUS HQ people...

I genuinely wish I could make things happen that fast - this has been in progress for some time. 

-Rich

Rich there are rumors that the MXO4 is going to replace the RTE1000, is that true?
Secondly, I have a request, I do not want to take up your time, but please direct me where I should ask for RTE loan for tests, I guess there will be no problem with that?
Dave mentioned in the post above that the RTB2000 is an old oscilloscope, I do not know where the campaign for this model is from, I am extremely happy with it, instead of buying RTM3004-COM4, ​​I preferred to spend much more money on RTE1024 with full opt.

Thank you very much,
Yours sincerely,

Michael

Hi Michael - The MXO 4 doesn’t replace the RTE.  The RTE still does a number of things the MXO doesn’t (e.g. certain trigger/decodes, additional analysis, it's Windows-based, etc).  But the RTE is one of our older platforms and as we’ve said all along, the MXO 4 is the “first of a new generation” of scopes   

With all that said, if you don't need all the analysis capabilities of a Windows platform, the MXO 4 is amazing (IMHO) and I wouldn't hesitate in a second to buy it versus a RTE. 

Hope this helps.

-Rich

[Martin72]

Gentlemen, wouldn´t it be good to start a new thread instead using the RTB2000 thread for a different scope...

[jjoonathan]

Yes, but this thread has a killer name and that really changes the game