New scope from FNIRSI: DPOF1204

[BillyO]

What's the odds they got this one right?


Key Product Features
•   Analog 4CH Ultra Precision architecture for accurate multi-signal analysis
•   200MHz bandwidth with up to 1GSa/s sampling rate for precise waveform capture
•   Up to 450,000 wfms/s capture rate to detect rare signal anomalies
•   14Mpts deep memory for long-duration signal recording
•   Ultra-low noise (70–90μVrms) with 500μV/div high sensitivity
•   Advanced triggering system with 13+ trigger modes and protocol triggers
•   1M-point FFT spectrum analysis with peak detection and markers
•   Supports I2C, SPI, UART, CAN, LIN protocol decoding
•   7" Touchscreen
•   USB, LAN, Trigger Out

Package List
•   DPOF1204 Host
•   Passive Probes x4
•   Grounding Wire
•   Power Adapter (US or EU Plug)
•   USB-A to USB-B Cable
•   User Guide


https://www.fnirsi.com/products/dpof1204

[Grandchuck]

Less than 10%

[tunk]

What's the odds they got this one right?

The proof is in the pudding, and their puddings so far mostly has been great disappointments.
And at US$460, wouldn't you really want to spend a bit more and get a Siglent or Rigol?

[Grandchuck]

The final price is only $404 USD🎉

I got an email about it.

[Atlan]

$404 for a useless oscilloscope is a lot.

[KungFuJosh]

The proof is in the pudding

...and it's moldy.

[BillyO]

Considering you can get the SDS804X-HD for only $57 more and you get:

. 12-bits
. 2GS/s
. 2Mpt FFT
. 16 digital channels
. 4 Math traces
. Power analysis
. Bode plot
. Segmented acquisition
. 18 trigger modes (including 5 serial modes)
. 6 I/O ports

... and a lot more.

I really can't understand their pricing on this at all.

[Grandchuck]

Fnirsi does not care about EEVblog.  They know their reputation here is damaged (justly so).  Their business model is to spew new, shiny stuff and not worry about fixing bugs.

[TizianoHV]

The final price is only $404 USD🎉

I think the number is an hint. When you'll search for FW updates it is what you'll see: 404, not found 

[Atlan]

It's definitely just an April Fool's joke

[ballsystemlord]

So if you can buy Siglent or Rigol for just a bit more, why buy FNIRSI? Like, what's their (false?) "claim to fame" for this scope?

[BillyO]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[infino]

All April long… you’d best not believe 😄

[BillyO]

Why would FNIRSI pull an April fool's prank?

[infino]

It might not be a joke, but its ADC is 8-bit. So this device is closer to the Rigol DS1054.
It will be hard for them to compete with Rigol and Siglent. I bought a DHO804 myself and upgraded it — both via software and by replacing the inductors — up to 400 MHz. It’s a really excellent instrument.
Before and after the modification: sweep 30–400 MHz.

[BillyO]

I didn't say it was not a joke, just not an April fool's joke. 

The price seem hilarious.

[infino]

I use equipment like the Fnirsi DPOX180, DST-210, and others. What I use works quite well and has satisfied me in terms of functionality and price, so Fnirsi does make some good tools. Let’s hope this oscilloscope is good too, but the price is definitely high.

[BillyO]

I'm taking the piss.

I too have FNIRSI products that work well and that I use all the time.  Prime in this respect are their HS-01 and HS-02 soldering irons, their USB meter, their SAG-55 hot air gun and their DPS-150 power supply (actually, it's really just a sophisticated regulator).  Noe of these have given me reason to even look for firmware updates.  They just work as I need them to.

I have other FNIRSI thingys that I use, but only because they suit what I use them for, but they do have glaring issues WRT to their functionality or specs that certainly may affect others, but just don't enter into my used of them.  If you know what I mean.

Then there are quite a few that found new homes....

[Bud]

I didn't say it was not a joke, just not an April fool's joke. 

The price seem hilarious.

Well back then there was a gizmo with the launch price of $666.66
Remember what it was and where the company ended up? 

[infino]

Fnirsi and Zoyi are growing quickly and are currently occupying a niche that UNI-T, Rigol, and Siglent don’t really go down into—let alone the more serious brands. So no matter how much they’re criticized, people will still buy them, simply because there’s nothing else to replace them in that price range. However, the price of this oscilloscope seems significantly overpriced to me.

[BillyO]

Well back then there was a gizmo with the launch price of $666.66
Remember what it was and where the company ended up? 

Yeah, but it was worth it.  And if you had a mint one right now, you'd be doing very nicely.

Do you think FNIRSI will come up with something that will rock the world like the Apple (1)?

[BillyO]

Fnirsi and Zoyi are growing quickly and are currently occupying a niche that UNI-T, ...

I wouldn't buy anything from UNI-T.  At least when I contact FNIRSI I usually get a response of some kind.  When I had a scope and a bench DMM from UNI-T (cost more than anything from FNIRSI), both had issues and I was never able to get any response from UNI-T.  Absolutely nothing.  Zero.  Crickets .. bzzz...bzzzz..bzzz...

If you really want to throw money away, buy stuff from UNI-T.  They won't get another penny from me.

[Bud]

The final price is only $404 USD🎉

I think the number is an hint. When you'll search for FW updates it is what you'll see: 404, not there

There is Highway 404 here in Toronto. Last time I checked it was still there 

[infino]

Do you have Interstate 60? 

[BillyO]

The final price is only $404 USD🎉

I think the number is an hint. When you'll search for FW updates it is what you'll see: 404, not there

There is Highway 404 here in Toronto. Last time I checked it was still there 

Yeah, the extension of the DVP.  But, you really just don't want to be on it between the hours of 6:00 AM and 8:00 PM.  However, that's information from 12 years ago.  Things could be much worse now.