Program that can log/control many multimeters and other devices.

[HKJ]

I am not sure that is possible, the SCPI commands may accept a space and I am not going to check all definitions if it is used.
It would probably have to be a new combobox for this.

That's fine with me.

Or either way, you could possibly do:
:color: color1 color2 color3 separate of the choices, and let the colors assign in order of options.

Like this:

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#cmdSetup combobox Waveform Output_1
:write: c1:BSWV WVTP,#
:read: c1:BSWV?
:readmath: getElement(value,1,",")
:update: Frequency Periode Amplitude Offset Duty_cycle Symmetry Arbitrary
:updatedelayed: 0.1
:color: red red red blue blue blue black
Sine SINE
Square SQUARE
Ramp RAMP
Pulse PULSE
Noise NOISE
Arbitrary ARB
DC DC

I am working on a advanced combobox control with a couple of extra field, including two colors for each line.
The colors are working, but it is not finished yet.

I do not believe I have changed anything with that logic in the update.
There is a bug, but it is extremely hard to find for me. I do not believe you can set the scope up in the virtual driver, it is way to complex, but that would be a way to open for my trying it out (But for simple stuff it can be done).

Whatever it is, I had to downgrade to 2.79 to continue testing my driver. 2.80 crashed, and 2.79 is stable. If there's something I can do to help test, let me know.

I am not sure I can do anything, before I have something that shows more specific what is going wrong.

[KungFuJosh]

I am not sure I can do anything, before I have something that shows more specific what is going wrong.

Well, I assume the main difference between the versions is the advanced logging. How about a test version with all the extra logging stuff removed?

[HKJ]

I am not sure I can do anything, before I have something that shows more specific what is going wrong.

Well, I assume the main difference between the versions is the advanced logging. How about a test version with all the extra logging stuff removed?

I can't see how a couple of System.out can give any issues. If they do it is a timing issue, that may show up at another time.

[Gertjan]

Hi HKJ,

Sorry, it seems to be bug reporting time....

There is a small, but irritating bug in the formula editor on the Math tab.

When editing a formula, it is very handy that one can right-click to choose from the meter output names available:



Almost all meter output names are having a point (dot) in the name.
After selecting a meter output name, the meter name is copied into the formula, but without the point:



And off course, without the point, the formula does not work....
The first time I encountered this, it took me a while to find out why my formula did not work.
But now I know, and just edit the point back.

This happens for quite a while, at least the last few TC versions. Also, I think there has been a Java update without any change.
The thing is, it always happens when I set up a measurement, and then I just want to start measuring, instead taking screenshots for bug report.

I tested on Windows 7 and 10, latest Java and TC. All with the same result.

Regards, Gertjan.

[KungFuJosh]

I am not sure I can do anything, before I have something that shows more specific what is going wrong.

Well, I assume the main difference between the versions is the advanced logging. How about a test version with all the extra logging stuff removed?

I can't see how a couple of System.out can give any issues. If they do it is a timing issue, that may show up at another time.

What else changed between the two versions?

[HKJ]

Hi HKJ,

Sorry, it seems to be bug reporting time....

There is a small, but irritating bug in the formula editor on the Math tab.

When editing a formula, it is very handy that one can right-click to choose from the meter output names available:



Almost all meter output names are having a point (dot) in the name.
After selecting a meter output name, the meter name is copied into the formula, but without the point:



And off course, without the point, the formula does not work....
The first time I encountered this, it took me a while to find out why my formula did not work.
But now I know, and just edit the point back.

This happens for quite a while, at least the last few TC versions. Also, I think there has been a Java update without any change.
The thing is, it always happens when I set up a measurement, and then I just want to start measuring, instead taking screenshots for bug report.

I tested on Windows 7 and 10, latest Java and TC. All with the same result.

I have a good idea what the issue is, I fixed one problem, but added another 

I filter/process the name to make a legal variable name, a point is removed as part of that process (Because when creating vars TC is only using the filter on the last part of the full name, the first part is supposed to be valid), but here I filter the full name and looses the point.

[HKJ]

What else changed between the two versions?

I do not believe I changed anything else.

[KungFuJosh]

What else changed between the two versions?

I do not believe I changed anything else.

Well, there's the answer. For whatever reason, extra logging is causing the crash. Maybe logging too many measurements at that level is the issue?

[HKJ]

Well, there's the answer. For whatever reason, extra logging is causing the crash. Maybe logging too many measurements at that level is the issue?

As I wrote before, it may be a timing issue and that is very hard to find/fix.

[KungFuJosh]

Well, there's the answer. For whatever reason, extra logging is causing the crash. Maybe logging too many measurements at that level is the issue?

As I wrote before, it may be a timing issue and that is very hard to find/fix.

The advanced logging will be removed for the non-beta/release version, correct? If so, then not a big deal assuming the timing issue isn't a problem beyond that.

THanks,
Josh

[HKJ]

The advanced logging will be removed for the non-beta/release version, correct? If so, then not a big deal assuming the timing issue isn't a problem beyond that.

Generally yes, but I forgot some last time (It is removed now).

[KungFuJosh]

Assuming you uploaded it already, I'll try again in an hour after your server cache clears.

Thanks,
Josh

[HKJ]

Assuming you uploaded it already, I'll try again in an hour after your server cache clears.

I only upload beta/test version when somebody needs them and the current version still include logging, just not the one I forgot to remove before last release.

[KungFuJosh]

Oh, okay. I'll stick with 2.79 then until the cool new combobox is ready.

Thanks,
Josh

[HKJ]

Oh, okay. I'll stick with 2.79 then until the cool new combobox is ready.

I will want some feedback on that combobox.
At the current time it support colors and a icon for each line, but I also want to look at expressions for each line (But I will not promise it).
If you want to play with a partial implemented control, I can upload a test.

[pelule]

Hi. I amlocking for such kind of tool, since years. using EZGPIB, but very Bad Debug Support.
so this my Most Important request.
so I allways thougth of a way to a kind of makros execution, based on textfiles (similar to windows install technology (hop do not make bad mistake .
idea:
something like in an high language debugging based on a source of text files.
execute Line by line
.As I Have written a C-Compiler for a 4bitNEC SIngle chip Controller (no Joke), using Compiler-Compiler (Flex, Bison and similartools.so  I have a clear good feeling of the amount of work to create, debug and maintain.
hoping my wish is not much a dreams
Sorry for typing errors. My left hand allways hits the wrong keays

[HKJ]

Hi. I amlocking for such kind of tool, since years. using EZGPIB, but very Bad Debug Support.
so this my Most Important request.
so I allways thougth of a way to a kind of makros execution, based on textfiles (similar to windows install technology (hop do not make bad mistake .
idea:
something like in an high language debugging based on a source of text files.
execute Line by line
.As I Have written a C-Compiler for a 4bitNEC SIngle chip Controller (no Joke), using Compiler-Compiler (Flex, Bison and similartools.so  I have a clear good feeling of the amount of work to create, debug and maintain.
hoping my wish is not much a dreams
Sorry for typing errors. My left hand allways hits the wrong keays

TC has debugging for device communication that is easily activated, but not much else is supported.
TC also has a scripting and programming language (It is two different languages with different purposes), but it has nothing to do with debugging.
Java has lots of debugging tools, but most of them are not really usable for TC (There is a couple of reasons for that).

4 bit processor, I believe assembler is the best language for that (I have programmed lot of assembler for 8 bit processors). I saw somewhere they where common in bicycle computers (Probably some years ago).

[KungFuJosh]

Oh, okay. I'll stick with 2.79 then until the cool new combobox is ready.

I will want some feedback on that combobox.
At the current time it support colors and a icon for each line, but I also want to look at expressions for each line (But I will not promise it).
If you want to play with a partial implemented control, I can upload a test.

Yes please, I'd love to test the new combobox.

Thanks,
Josh

[HKJ]

Oh, okay. I'll stick with 2.79 then until the cool new combobox is ready.

I will want some feedback on that combobox.
At the current time it support colors and a icon for each line, but I also want to look at expressions for each line (But I will not promise it).
If you want to play with a partial implemented control, I can upload a test.

Yes please, I'd love to test the new combobox.

It is up, my test code look like this:

#cmdSetup advCombobox select
:read: acbb?
:write: acbb
opt1  -   red   -   0
opt2  -   yellow   iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAgAAAAICAYAAADED76LAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAARnQU1BAACxjwv8YQUAAAAJcEhZcwAADsMAAA7DAcdvqGQAAABySURBVChTY/z//z9jMAOXzi+G7wsYGBiMgBgEzgFx3GaG/1cZE/7LGr1heHwKKMAMlkKAv0Csz+jzH6zaECyECZ4wAQlckiAgA1KAF4AUgKzABcBWxAExyEHoACTmwQTyCpChD8RPQKJQAGLrb2b4fxUAcwgegiFAZ+EAAAAASUVORK5CYII=   1
opt3  -   cyan   -   2
opt4  -   (255,128,0)   -   3
opt5  -   -   -   4

The long string is a image encode in base64, I used https://www.base64-image.de/ for that.

The image must be between 8 and 16 pixel high, the length is not critical, but it is best to keep all icons the same size in a control. I was thinking about making a couple of predefine icons, but realized that would not really work.

I.e the parameters are: text, forgroundcolor, backgroundcolor, icon, command

Any - means use same value as standard Combobox.

I used the dummy com driver to test it, you simple define the two commands:
acbb? acbb
acbb
in it.
Interface is in popups devices at the bottom, to use it create a definition that uses dummy as communication driver and is based on SCPI, SCPIx or ascii.


All that means that you do not get anything the current combobox cannot do, but you can make it look much nicer.

[pelule]

I would also be glad to test the combo box. if i manage to get my lab-PC up and running (estimate time required 48 hours).
if all is running. it will support windows 10, (done) windows 11(done), -linux mint (done/ 1st steps in learning) and MS-Dos 5.0 (done)
iAm using a changeable ssd-HDisk (hot-Plug). after each change a saved the image to could go back to original version).
But please wait for me, starting to get in touch with linux. due to the strokes and my left hand typing errors is a common problem - thus i Prever to click- than to type, taking my limitations into account.
never the less I fully willing to contribute.
PS: do you plan to support a Fluke 8840A & 8506A and if not already done HP 3458A. ibet the list of wishes is longer than your arm

[HKJ]

I would also be glad to test the combo box. if i manage to get my lab-PC up and running (estimate time required 48 hours).
if all is running. it will support windows 10, (done) windows 11(done), -linux mint (done/ 1st steps in learning) and MS-Dos 5.0 (done)
iAm using a changeable ssd-HDisk (hot-Plug). after each change a saved the image to could go back to original version).
But please wait for me, starting to get in touch with linux. due to the strokes and my left hand typing errors is a common problem - thus i Prever to click- than to type, taking my limitations into account.
never the less I fully willing to contribute.

Anybody is welcome to download test versions, play with and post comments.
A test version is not that different from a regular TC version, but it might have some extra test code in it.

PS: do you plan to support a Fluke 8840A & 8506A and if not already done HP 3458A. ibet the list of wishes is longer than your arm

I do not plan what devices are support, users supplies the definitions (Except for the devices I own and have added) at last count it was around 700 devices. I cannot give a precise number because some of them are DIY devices, some internal (Virtual and soundcard) and some are in my local directory, i.e. not published.
Both 8840A and 3458A is included.

[KungFuJosh]

#cmdSetup advCombobox select

Will there (hopefully) also be an advComboboxHot?

I'm testing it now. There's no highlight for selecting items. I assume you can fix that, but if it's a choice between setting a background color, or highlight selection working, then highlight would be a higher priority IMO.

ETA: You can also see it isn't removing the underscore for the space in the screenshot.

Thanks,
Josh

[HKJ]

Will there (hopefully) also be an advComboboxHot?

That is fairly trivial to add, because it reuses this class, I had planned on it.

I'm testing it now. There's no highlight for selecting items. I assume you can fix that, but if it's a choice between setting a background color, or highlight selection working, then highlight would be a higher priority IMO.

I do not have full control of the colors yet, I would also like to maintain the colors in the displayed value, not only when selecting.

ETA: You can also see it isn't removing the underscore for the space in the screenshot.

Ops, I have the code, but did not call it, it is fixed.

[KungFuJosh]

Will there (hopefully) also be an advComboboxHot?

That is fairly trivial to add, because it reuses this class, I had planned on it.

I'm testing it now. There's no highlight for selecting items. I assume you can fix that, but if it's a choice between setting a background color, or highlight selection working, then highlight would be a higher priority IMO.

I do not have full control of the colors yet, I would also like to maintain the colors in the displayed value, not only when selecting.

ETA: You can also see it isn't removing the underscore for the space in the screenshot.

Ops, I have the code, but did not call it, it is fixed.

I'll try downloading again in a bit, it's not available yet. Besides the things I mentioned previously, it can't send commands yet. I tried selecting one of the options on my Magnova driver, and got this error:

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Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.ClassCastException: class dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$AdvComboBoxDisplayer cannot be cast to class dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$ComboBoxDisplayer (dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$AdvComboBoxDisplayer and dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$ComboBoxDisplayer are in unnamed module of loader 'app')
        at dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$AdvComboboxField.localWrite(SetupFormats.java:4440)
        at dk.hkj.devices.SetupFormats$AdvComboboxField.actionPerformed(SetupFormats.java:4449)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1972)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2314)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:407)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:262)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(BasicButtonListener.java:279)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:299)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6576)
        at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3404)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6341)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2260)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4958)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2318)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4790)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4917)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:4560)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:4501)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2304)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2671)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4790)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:725)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:702)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:203)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:124)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:113)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:109)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:101)
        at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:90)
The color choices look great though- exactly what I wanted. Thanks!

Thanks,
Josh

[pelule]

BRAINSTOrming HIGH_LEVEL GPIB-cmmunication fill the device dependant data/Command inVARIABLES
each command-string Contains a Fixed Set of Variables and At A Fixed Position (a "New" programming language/ syntax
variables:
-ADR(number),-Only Needed at open, not used, remains Unchanged until Close
OutCMD(text, at Least a space)-
Opt-CMD(text,or empty if not used),
Opt-MUST RESPOND(text,or empty if not used),
----> if device respond is not exactly the same, you get an error message.
----> if a variable does not have the right Data, you get an syntax error message: i. e. "syntax error at variable 3"
thats why the variable has fix format and fixed positions.
Opt-EOCMD (ASCII-CharacterCode, 13=CR,32=SPACE,Empty if not used)
1. open Communication = ADR (i.E 22)OutCMD = "G"-CMD = "Empty string", Opt-MUST RESPOND(empty string),Opt-EOCMD(=13=CR)
2a. response if Success RESPOND = "FLUKE8840A???"
2b. if no success RESPOND= "empty string" or "any syntax-Error Msg"
3...n each time ADR (i.E 22)OutCMD = "space"Opt-CMD = "Empty string", Opt-MUST RESPOND(empty string),
Opt-EOCMD(=13=CR), respond =Number
3. Close ( if Device Required any closing
so you can used it for any device, One has just to Chang / Adopt the Variables.
I started to make a EzGpib-program, but than the stroke stopped me unfortunately.
SO one has to Create A basic Communication Routine/process
"open", "read", r"ead"write Data to Target", read....... "Close"
to AdOpt to Another device/ adress. you Just Have To add/change The Variables
There A Still Some Things To think of, but this Enables to Create an Easy Interface without a fixed command Syntax. I didsomething similar in the 1980 For an industrial control bus. so its not a fully unprooved.
Open For Any Comment, please dont lough
Note: Its Just Checked Against the devices I Have A Documentation On.