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Offline s_lannanTopic starter

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Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« on: November 24, 2014, 11:02:29 am »
Any ideas? Something of decent pedigree however....
 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 12:43:41 pm »
maybe a sekonic could do the job? It's a pretty respectable brand.

http://www.sekonic.com/products/i-346/overview.aspx

About € 190
 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 01:27:51 pm »
For what purpose? 

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/recommendation-neeed-lux-meter/msg492741/#msg492741

Professionally any luxmeter with a valid traceable calibration certificate can be used, and the spectral validity with be on the certificate.
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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 02:23:23 pm »
While we're at it, any recommendations for a cheap one?

Ballpark values, +/-10% would be fine (although 5% would be better). How accurate are these things anyway?


 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2014, 02:53:59 pm »
The accuracy depends on cost, price rises with accuracy < = 1% and/or much finer resolution in lux [0.1 lux or better].  Any meter that is calibration grade will be commercial grade even if you don't get a certificate.

For example, USA buyers for use in working and living conditions lighting evaluation:

http://www.pro-measure.com/product_p/lm-81lx.htm

$80.

With cal certificate, ~ 2x the cost:

http://www.pro-measure.com/category_s/30.htm


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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2014, 06:35:32 pm »
ISO9002 is NOT a certificate of calibration...
 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2014, 09:31:47 pm »
For lux requirements in homes and workplaces, a meter of <= 20,000 lux or ~ 2,000 fc is more than adequate.  Even a resolution as low as 10 lux works, that's ~ 1 fc.  Most commercial meters can resolve 1 lux to accuracy better than 10%, as that $80 device.  Yes, the chassis can be cheap, but it gets the job done.

US OSHA:

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=10630

Some other recommended values:

http://www.bosworthinstrument.com/Lightmeterinfo.html

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 09:50:15 pm »
While we're at it, any recommendations for a cheap one?

Ballpark values, +/-10% would be fine (although 5% would be better). How accurate are these things anyway?

If you want a really ballpark figure and you have an Android phone there are free apps available.
Really, really ballpark though...
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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 09:58:42 pm »
it has a vague certificate of calibration to ISO9002

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 02:03:00 pm »
While we're at it, any recommendations for a cheap one?

Ballpark values, +/-10% would be fine (although 5% would be better). How accurate are these things anyway?

If you want a really ballpark figure and you have an Android phone there are free apps available.
Really, really ballpark though...

I never thought of that.

Looks like there's quite a few apps available and they use the front-facing camera to measure light. I imagine they're not very accurate but the price is right.

 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 04:48:17 pm »
Looks like there's quite a few apps available and they use the front-facing camera to measure light. I imagine they're not very accurate but the price is right.
They do not use the camera; they use the ambient light sensor used to manage automatic screen brightness.
 

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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 12:24:35 pm »
Thanks for all the replies...
I wanted something that would verify a lumen output spec with a little accuracy... maybe less than $1000 worth of kit.

To elaborate our local supplier "Jaycar Electronics" has this nasty habit of promoting the standard shenzhen crap as "the ducks guts"......
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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 06:03:54 pm »
What exactly do you want to measure? What accuracy do you need?
In many cases just a photodiode or something like OPT101P is adequate. There are many methods of DIY calibration that are reasonably accurate.
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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2014, 01:16:02 pm »
I have the BEHA UNITEST 93560 Luxmeter digital

Got it for a super deal on ebay
Retail is around Euro 150
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Re: Respectable lux meter that doesn't cost $4k
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 01:53:08 pm »
What TES model do you have?
I saw some with a sensor that looks that same but thye base unit looks a little different.
Here are 2 pictures on my Beha Lux Meter
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