Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown

[Martin72]

Actually, all brands in the price range, that's just the way it is.
No brand I know can compete with touchscreen, 12 bit, memory, hdmi etc.
Let's see if and who will be the first to react.

[Fungus]

Actually, all brands in the price range, that's just the way it is.
No brand I know can compete with touchscreen, 12 bit, memory, hdmi etc.
Let's see if and who will be the first to react.

We live in interesting times. 

[EEVblog]

Rigol just offered to send me one. Who wants to see some videos on it?

[EEVblog]

$459 for a 4CH 12bit 500uV 100MHz touchscreen scope with HDMI output, USB power source, and serial decoding all standard. Seriously? 

I don't know why they bother with the 70MHz version vs 100MHz 

[boyie]

That's great

[skander36]

Rigol just offered to send me one. Who wants to see some videos on it?

 
I think you shouldn't ask. Many of us are willing to see videos (teardowns, testscases, comparisons) from you about any decent brand of scopes.

[Aldo22]

I don't know why they bother with the 70MHz version vs 100MHz 

Surely we need a cheaper version to have something to hack! 

[Fungus]

I don't know why they bother with the 70MHz version vs 100MHz 

Surely we need a cheaper version to have something to hack! 

Yep. It wouldn't be Rigol without that.

[ojete]

It would be great if you can get the DHO900, mostly because it has bode plot. I think the DHO800 doesn't have it.

[Pinkus]

It would be great if you can get the DHO900, mostly because it has bode plot. I think the DHO800 doesn't have it.

Better both to point out the differences

[Fungus]

It would be great if you can get the DHO900, mostly because it has bode plot. I think the DHO800 doesn't have it.

The DHO800 is the one everybody will be really interested in.

[ojete]

It would be great if you can get the DHO900, mostly because it has bode plot. I think the DHO800 doesn't have it.

The DHO800 is the one everybody will be really interested in.

Not really. Bode plot is important and the more expensive DHO1000 and DHO4000 doesn't have it, which is a joke.
A comparison in the real world of the DHO800 and 900 would be very useful, also to compare with the "soon" to be released siglent 1000 hd.

[Martin72]

A comparison in the real world of the DHO800 and 900 would be very useful

Hm, I don´t know if this would make really sense.
Almost the same hardware, same screensize and resolution, same UI, same software...

[Fungus]

A comparison in the real world of the DHO800 and 900 would be very useful,

I guess it would be good to know how useful the digital side of it is in the 900. Would Rigol send Dave the logic probes...?

If the probes cost the usual 300 bucks then it's a big expense so any info would be good before deciding that.

[Martin72]

I bought the original logic probes for my scope a few weeks ago.
I felt as if I had purchased a gold bar, in terms of price.
Promptly came reactions a la "I had bought the clone, for 40 bucks." (aha...good for you)
Surely there will be something like this for the DHO900, the socket on the scope looks like it is the same as on the MSO5000.

[thm_w]

Not really. Bode plot is important and the more expensive DHO1000 and DHO4000 doesn't have it, which is a joke.
A comparison in the real world of the DHO800 and 900 would be very useful, also to compare with the "soon" to be released siglent 1000 hd.

Anyone buying DHO4000 has the money for a dedicated function generator and won't need the internal, at which point writing a script to generate a bode plot is not very difficult.
Would it be good if they included the functionality to sync with an external gen? Yes. Is it a joke that they don't include a cheap internal gen on a non-hobbyist targeted scope? No.

https://github.com/jbtronics/DS1054_BodePlotter

[NE666]

the socket on the scope looks like it is the same as on the MSO5000.

The DHO900 datasheet at int.rigol.com indicates that it uses the PLA2216 probe, the same as the MSO5000.

https://int.rigol.com/Images/DHO900_DataSheet_EN_tcm7-5747.pdf

[gslick]

How important is memory depth for most people? Seems like one of the more crippling product differentiations between the DHO800 and DHO900 is 25Mpts / 10Mpts / 1Mpts vs. 50Mpts / 25Mpts / 10Mpts. That doesn't seem too bad in single-channel and dual channel modes, but 1Mpts vs. 10Mpts in full-channel mode seems like a big difference.

Ignoring the option of also being able to add the 16-channel digital probe, would the memory depth difference be a big enough factor by itself for a lot of people to be worth $569 for a DHO914 over $459 for a DHO814?

[Martin72]

Ignoring the option of also being able to add the 16-channel digital probe, would the memory depth difference be a big enough factor by itself for a lot of people to be worth $569 for a DHO914 over $459 for a DHO814?

It's actually the other way around.
I would consider the memory as something that can be ignored and rather emphasize the LA part and the integrated frequency generator.

[Fungus]

I'd love to know if the DHO800 memory can be hacked to 50Mpts...

[Fungus]

Promptly came reactions a la "I had bought the clone, for 40 bucks." (aha...good for you)

Are there clones available? It seems like there ought to be, there's nothing inside one that's worth $300.

[5U4GB]

I really hope external power supplies don't become a thing. Who cares if your product is small if you still have to carry random stuff around.

Look at the flipside of this though, it means you can replace a garbage bundled power supply with a decent one...

[Fungus]

I really hope external power supplies don't become a thing. Who cares if your product is small if you still have to carry random stuff around.

Feel free to glue it to the back of the 'scope - problem solved! 

[EEVblog]

Is that a VESA mount I see? 
Looks too big, and would cover the vents.

[dave j]

Is that a VESA mount I see? 
Looks too big, and would cover the vents.

The datasheet linked to in post #111 says it's a 100mm VESA mount.