SIGLENT SDS1102X-C, supported languages issue

[Othman]

hi everyone
i just have got a new siglent scope from China wich is SDS 1102X-C. this model is 100MHz bandwidth and 1GSa/s.  i just found that this model is for Chinese market only and does not support any languages except Chinese. unfortuantly i can't read chinese and don't want to learn it.
i'm wondering if updating the firmware to the SDS 1202x-E firmware would solve this issue.. i have checked the hardware of this scope with Dave's video here:
i found that the hardware of this scope and the SDS1202X-E is identical except some changes in the analog front end section.
what would you advise me guys?

[tautech]

Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately you didn’t do your homework before buying this China Only version of the 2ch X-E.
If you get to find or build a cfg file to allow conversion to a X-E you might have the 2nd 100 MHz unit in the west next to the one Dave has that Siglent sent him for review before release.
When they saw him examine the file system with a view to hack it Siglent countered and only released the 200 MHz SDS1202X-E to the west.

Your X-C model is very likely identical HW to that in X-E models.

[Othman]

thnaks tautech for your reply
so updating the software could not solve this problem? what would you advise me for getting the CFG file, forgive my silly knowledge about this issue.

[tautech]

thnaks tautech for your reply
so updating the software could not solve this problem? what would you advise me for getting the CFG file, forgive my silly knowledge about this issue.

CFG files when run open the instruments OS to accept significant OS changes from firmware like for a significant update or different branding than OEM....or a language change.
I looked quickly through my SDS1202X-E updates for a CFG file but I don't have all versions on this PC.
I also had a quick search here on the forum and again I don't seem to remember a CFG for SDS1202X-E however there may have been one but I can't remember.
You could check all the 2ch SDS1202X-E firmware versions here:
https://int.siglent.com/download/firmwares/?ProId=12
Sorry that is a bit of work or have a look here as this thread is a little goldmine of goodies:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/

[tv84]

@tautech,

Search the .cfg file inside your X-E and share it here.

[tautech]

@tautech,

Search the .cfg file inside your X-E and share it here.

Linux/Telnet noob here too scared to try. 

Others far more capable with SDS1104X-E or SDS1202X-E need do this for the OP.
Then we'll have something we can share next time someone buys the X-C version.

[Othman]

i'm not familiar with these stuff honestly. but i'm not scared to learn and try it on my own scope. so may you could orient me to do the important steps.
more help would be great, thank you for your concerning

[mushroom]

Maybe this could help telneting your scope and accessing the file system; it's about the 1104, but the shell scripts could work for the 1102 (generic commnds) :

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlocking-siglent-sds1104x-e-step-by-step/325/

See post 345

[tv84]

Correct, although the link is https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlocking-siglent-sds1104x-e-step-by-step/msg4292821/#msg4292821.

Connect inside and share the .cfg.

[mushroom]

Remember I have a 1204, not a 1102 !
I'm connected but not familiar with the Linux OS and file system. I only use Raspberries for 3D printing, and the first thing I do is installing Samba and share the root directory so I can navigate from the Windows Explorer.
I don't what to search for and where to search... Could take some time !

[EDIT] discovered a VNC server !

[EDIT 2] the only cfg file seems to be "./usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/sys_cfg.cfg" on my SDS1204X E . Not sure it will be usefull to the OP 

[tv84]

[EDIT 2] the only cfg file seems to be "./usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/sys_cfg.cfg" on my SDS1204X E . Not sure it will be usefull to the OP 

The parsing of your .CFG:

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Reversing 1st part of the file [00000000-00000CF7]...
XORing with 0xFF (incrementing pattern)...
XORing with 0xFF from 0x0000067C until 0x00000CF7

00000000 - Main Checksum: FFFFD3E2 [00000004-00000CF7]  CKSM OK
00000008 - Product_Type: SIGLENT
00000028 - CFG Type: SDS1004X-E
0000003C - Manufacturer_Name: SIGLENT
00000047 - CFG Flag_LongMemory: 00
00000048 - Product_ID: 10000
0000004C - Logo Image Size: 00000000 (0 pixels)
00000050 - USB_Prod_ID_PTP: EE39
00000052 - USB_Prod_ID_RAW: EE38
00000054 - USB_Prod_ID_TMC: EE3A
00000056 - USB_Vendor_ID: F4EC
00000058 - Prefix: SDS
0000005C - Logo_Manufacturer: Siglent
0000009C - CFG Flag_pic_machine: 01
0000009D - CFG Flag_sys_machine: 01
0000009E - CFG Flag_____USB_TMC: 01
0000009F - CFG Flag___SCPI/ERES: 01
000000A0 - CFG Fl_invert/neuter: 00
000000A1 - CFG Flag___skew/gate: 00
000000A2 - CFG Flag____vxi/roll: 01
000000A3 - CFG Flag___________A: 00    not_used(?)
000000A4 - CFG Flag___lang_mask: 1800
000000A6 - CFG Flag__lang_total: 11
000000A7 - CFG Flag_mach_series: 00
000000A8 - Machine Name  20 MHz: SDS1024X-E
000000B7 - Machine Name  40 MHz: SDS1044X-E
000000C6 - Machine Name  60 MHz: SDS1064X-E
000000D5 - Machine Name 100 MHz: SDS1104X-E
000000E4 - Machine Name 150 MHz: SDS1154X-E
000000F3 - Machine Name 200 MHz: SDS1204X-E
00000102 - Machine Name 250 MHz: SDS1254X-E
00000111 - Machine Name 300 MHz: SDS1304X-E
00000120 - Machine Name  50 MHz: SDS1054X-E
0000012F - Machine Name  70 MHz: SDS1074X-E
0000013E - CFG Flag___BW_change: 00
0000013F - CFG Flag_hide_set_BW: 01
00000140 - Machine Name 350 MHz:
0000014F - Machine Name 500 MHz:
0000015E - Machine Name 750 MHz:
0000016D - Machine Name1000 MHz:
0000017C - Machine Name2000 MHz:

We (the OP) need the .CFG of a SDS1202X-E.

[Othman]

thanks guys for sharing
let me check and try
i have checked the Uboot os version on my SDS1102X-C. it is 8-1 . do you think the shell scripts on post 345 would work for this os version ?

[tautech]

thanks guys for sharing
let me check and try
i have checked the Uboot os version on my SDS1102X-C. it is 8-1 . do you think the shell scripts on post 345 would work for this os version ?

Which thread ?
We need someone to pull the cfg from a SDS1202X-E for tv84 to work his magic on it to create a SDS1202X-E CFG file.
There are many on the forum except for SDS1202X-E and you can find many references and copies of other CFG files with a 'Siglent CFG' search. Trouble is, none are correct for your scope.

[Othman]

i m just about getting familiar about these stuff. i'm still searching and learning meanwhile someone who has the SDS1202X-E model provide us with the needed CFG file.

[Othman]

hi i was trying to telnet my scope SDS1102X-C in order to explore the System files. but it seems i couldn't establish the connection right. i tried use the port 23 and 22 and the port 9999 using the script method of this post: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlocking-siglent-sds1104x-e-step-by-step/msg4292821/#msg4292821
and also i can not connect to the webserver when put the scope ip on browser!
the only connection i have managed to establish is the one that use the port 5024 which is for SCPI commands.
 i think i miss something can you guys help me solve this problem?
thank you in advance

[tv84]

Execute the script procedure again and then, with your PC, do a portscan to see which ports are open in the scope.

[Othman]

sorry, noob here.  i didn't get it how to do scan port of the host (scope) on my pc. could you please explain more?
thank you

[tv84]

sorry, noob here.  i didn't get it how to do scan port of the host (scope) on my pc. could you please explain more?
thank you

Just use these recent instructions.

[Othman]

@ tv84 here is the result

[Othman]

finally i did some progress!
it seems is a firmware version issue, that is why i could not log in my sds1102X-C. i had to load old FW labeled SDS1002X-E_1.3.17R1_EN on siglent website. please see the new system status.

i have attached the configuration file 'sys_cfg.cfg' of my scope model as well. please check. may tv84 would find something interesting.
thank you in advance

[tv84]

  Your parsing:

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Reversing 1st part of the file [00000000-00000CF7]...
XORing with 0xFF (incrementing pattern)...
XORing with 0xFF from 0x0000067C until 0x00000CF7

00000000 - Main Checksum: FFFFE632 [00000004-00000CF7]  CKSM OK
00000008 - Product_Type: SIGLENT_IE
00000028 - CFG Type: SDS1204CF
0000003C - Manufacturer_Name: SIGLENT
00000047 - CFG Flag_LongMemory: 00
00000048 - Product_ID: 10000
0000004C - Logo Image Size: 00000000 (0 pixels)
00000050 - USB_Prod_ID_PTP: EE39
00000052 - USB_Prod_ID_RAW: EE38
00000054 - USB_Prod_ID_TMC: EE3A
00000056 - USB_Vendor_ID: F4EC
00000058 - Prefix: SDS
0000005C - Logo_Manufacturer: Siglent
0000009C - CFG Flag_pic_machine: 01
0000009D - CFG Flag_sys_machine: 01
0000009E - CFG Flag_____USB_TMC: 01
0000009F - CFG Flag___SCPI/ERES: 00
000000A0 - CFG Fl_invert/neuter: 00
000000A1 - CFG Flag___skew/gate: 01
000000A2 - CFG Flag____vxi/roll: 00
000000A3 - CFG Flag___________A: 00    not_used(?)
000000A4 - CFG Flag___lang_mask: 1FFE
000000A6 - CFG Flag__lang_total: 1
000000A7 - CFG Flag_mach_series: 00
000000A8 - Machine Name  20 MHz:
000000B7 - Machine Name  40 MHz:
000000C6 - Machine Name  60 MHz:
000000D5 - Machine Name 100 MHz: SDS1102X-C
000000E4 - Machine Name 150 MHz:
000000F3 - Machine Name 200 MHz: SDS1202X-C
00000102 - Machine Name 250 MHz:
00000111 - Machine Name 300 MHz:
00000120 - Machine Name  50 MHz:
0000012F - Machine Name  70 MHz:
0000013E - CFG Flag___BW_change: 00
0000013F - CFG Flag_hide_set_BW: 01
00000140 - Machine Name 350 MHz:
0000014F - Machine Name 500 MHz:
0000015E - Machine Name 750 MHz:
0000016D - Machine Name1000 MHz:
0000017C - Machine Name2000 MHz:

Let's try and cook some solution.

[tv84]

What is the answer that you obtain to this SCPI command?

MD5_PR?

[tv84]

I could adjust other things but let's try only the language.

Replace you .cfg with this one and report what happened to the language.

[Othman]

Thanks for your reply
I will try replacing the file tomorrow. Now i can not reach my scope

[Othman]

What is the answer that you obtain to this SCPI command?

MD5_PR?

i have checked this command, i got sds1102X-C as a result. btw i can register this scope to be 200 MHz following the instructions that use key generator based on scope ID and scope serial number.
i tried it and it worked and therefore MD5_PR? result in that case was 1202X-C  then i returned back the 100 Mhz key. so if this would help for configure the scope model to X-E i can do it.