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Offline Roy D. Mercer

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #200 on: April 30, 2021, 11:42:09 pm »
Does anyone know if the hack works with the SDS2102X plus two channel? I signed up with Replit and used the keygen link from the first post. Changed the scope ID to match mine and ran it. I am unable to get any of the keys to work by entering them in lower or upper case. I noticed that someone indicated they had to upgrade progressively starting with 100 MHz. That didn’t work either but the only bandwidth option I have available on the scope is 2BW03. Any suggestions will be very much appreciated.

 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #201 on: May 01, 2021, 08:52:35 am »
Does anyone know if the hack works with the SDS2102X plus two channel?

It works.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #202 on: May 01, 2021, 09:23:20 am »
Wasn't it like that You have started with bw02 option (or whatever for 200M), and now you have turned it on, so next is 350M?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #203 on: May 01, 2021, 09:42:37 am »
If you use the SCPI MCBD command you don't need nothing of that.

You can simply do:

MCBD <lic_500M>
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #204 on: May 01, 2021, 03:22:14 pm »

I noticed that someone indicated they had to upgrade progressively starting with 100 MHz. That didn’t work either but the only bandwidth option I have available on the scope is 2BW03. Any suggestions will be very much appreciated.

There is no 200MHz option for the 2 channel scope that I can see. Only the 4 channel scope. 2BW03 upgrades directly from 100 MHz to 350 MHz.
https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-100-to-200-mhz-2-channel-models/

In my searches I found 4 different Python scripts that produced 4 different sets of keys. If at first you don't succeed...
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #205 on: May 01, 2021, 03:51:07 pm »
The only BW option mine has ever had is 2BW03. It's also the only SDS2102X+ upgrade option available for purchase that I saw.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #206 on: May 01, 2021, 03:55:18 pm »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #207 on: May 01, 2021, 03:57:00 pm »
Thank you! I only tried one. I'll search for the others and give them a try.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #208 on: May 01, 2021, 06:22:11 pm »
Using the VISA test panel basic I/O I sent MCBD <lic_500M> to the scope. It returned so many bytes of data. I assume that this is data returned from the scope? As soon as I hit write or click elsewhere on the screen, my entered command is changed to MCBD\s<lic_500M>?.  I recycled power and did not see any changes in the options. I just got called into work but later I'll see what the the half power frequency is. If the command worked would it have changed the bandwidth option or the model number? Thank you!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #209 on: May 01, 2021, 08:57:28 pm »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
Roy please use the Quote button so we can see who you are replying to.

No need to use anything but the scopes webserver and its SCPI command page. Option codes can be entered from the webserver also and it's easy to Copy/Paste them into the input box in the Options page when in Instrument Control.
As mentioned earlier option codes are all lower case.

When doing any of this for customers that buy options it takes only a few minutes when connected to a PC using the scopes webserver.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #210 on: May 01, 2021, 10:15:47 pm »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
Roy please use the Quote button so we can see who you are replying to.

No need to use anything but the scopes webserver and its SCPI command page. Option codes can be entered from the webserver also and it's easy to Copy/Paste them into the input box in the Options page when in Instrument Control.
As mentioned earlier option codes are all lower case.

When doing any of this for customers that buy options it takes only a few minutes when connected to a PC using the scopes webserver.

Thank you tautech.  As soon as I saw your message I looked at the thread and saw what a mess I made. Sorry about that to everyone. I have not been on a forum in many years. The web server is great! I like how you can operate the scope from it too. Unfortunately, it didn’t work either. The command takes so it must be something I am doing wrong with the script or I need to find a different one. The only thing I am changing on it is the scope ID. I am entering exactly how it’s shown on the scope with the hyphens so it looks like this: ‘SCOPEID = '1800-2be1-3e0a-2ca1'. I made 100% sure when I copied the key into lower case that It’s correct.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #211 on: May 01, 2021, 11:00:01 pm »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
Roy please use the Quote button so we can see who you are replying to.

No need to use anything but the scopes webserver and its SCPI command page. Option codes can be entered from the webserver also and it's easy to Copy/Paste them into the input box in the Options page when in Instrument Control.
As mentioned earlier option codes are all lower case.

When doing any of this for customers that buy options it takes only a few minutes when connected to a PC using the scopes webserver.

Thank you tautech.  As soon as I saw your message I looked at the thread and saw what a mess I made. Sorry about that to everyone. I have not been on a forum in many years. The web server is great! I like how you can operate the scope from it too. Unfortunately, it didn’t work either. The command takes so it must be something I am doing wrong with the script or I need to find a different one. The only thing I am changing on it is the scope ID. I am entering exactly how it’s shown on the scope with the hyphens so it looks like this: ‘SCOPEID = '1800-2be1-3e0a-2ca1'. I made 100% sure when I copied the key into lower case that It’s correct.
No Hyphens required.  ;)
Even when using the webserver for installing options the codes can be just Copy/Pasted and the scopes UI just sorts it out.  :)
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #212 on: May 02, 2021, 01:35:54 am »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
Roy please use the Quote button so we can see who you are replying to.

No need to use anything but the scopes webserver and its SCPI command page. Option codes can be entered from the webserver also and it's easy to Copy/Paste them into the input box in the Options page when in Instrument Control.
As mentioned earlier option codes are all lower case.

When doing any of this for customers that buy options it takes only a few minutes when connected to a PC using the scopes webserver.

Thank you tautech.  As soon as I saw your message I looked at the thread and saw what a mess I made. Sorry about that to everyone. I have not been on a forum in many years. The web server is great! I like how you can operate the scope from it too. Unfortunately, it didn’t work either. The command takes so it must be something I am doing wrong with the script or I need to find a different one. The only thing I am changing on it is the scope ID. I am entering exactly how it’s shown on the scope with the hyphens so it looks like this: ‘SCOPEID = '1800-2be1-3e0a-2ca1'. I made 100% sure when I copied the key into lower case that It’s correct.
No Hyphens required.  ;)
Even when using the webserver for installing options the codes can be just Copy/Pasted and the scopes UI just sorts it out.  :)

Thank you very much!!! I just finished quite a bit of reading from the forum. I now realize where you work and it will not be forgotten. Thanks to all of you for your help. I have spent the last two weeks off and on nearly pulling my hair out trying to get this to work. I had read someone say “to change bandwidth, use scpi command MCBD hexkey” but the keys I was getting were not in hex. After some research I installed python & IDLE to my disappointment the exact same keys were generated. I tried entering every which way and sequence I could think of. The ONLY thing I didn’t think to try was eliminating the dashes! Thanks again to all for taking the time. It is very much appreciated. 

I am not sure if they are all this way but I am convinced my SDS2102X had a 200 MHz bandwidth out of the box. The amplitude was exactly 30% down at 200 MHz. 
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #213 on: May 02, 2021, 01:42:08 am »
Thank you very much. This is in an area I know nothing about. Can this be performed with NI-VISA that the Siglent programming manual refers to?
Roy please use the Quote button so we can see who you are replying to.

No need to use anything but the scopes webserver and its SCPI command page. Option codes can be entered from the webserver also and it's easy to Copy/Paste them into the input box in the Options page when in Instrument Control.
As mentioned earlier option codes are all lower case.

When doing any of this for customers that buy options it takes only a few minutes when connected to a PC using the scopes webserver.

Thank you tautech.  As soon as I saw your message I looked at the thread and saw what a mess I made. Sorry about that to everyone. I have not been on a forum in many years. The web server is great! I like how you can operate the scope from it too. Unfortunately, it didn’t work either. The command takes so it must be something I am doing wrong with the script or I need to find a different one. The only thing I am changing on it is the scope ID. I am entering exactly how it’s shown on the scope with the hyphens so it looks like this: ‘SCOPEID = '1800-2be1-3e0a-2ca1'. I made 100% sure when I copied the key into lower case that It’s correct.
No Hyphens required.  ;)
Even when using the webserver for installing options the codes can be just Copy/Pasted and the scopes UI just sorts it out.  :)

Thank you very much!!! I just finished quite a bit of reading from the forum. I now realize where you work and it will not be forgotten. Thanks to all of you for your help. I have spent the last two weeks off and on nearly pulling my hair out trying to get this to work. I had read someone say “to change bandwidth, use scpi command MCBD hexkey” but the keys I was getting were not in hex. After some research I installed python & IDLE to my disappointment the exact same keys were generated. I tried entering every which way and sequence I could think of. The ONLY thing I didn’t think to try was eliminating the dashes! Thanks again to all for taking the time. It is very much appreciated. 

I am not sure if they are all this way but I am convinced my SDS2102X had a 200 MHz bandwidth out of the box. The amplitude was exactly 30% down at 200 MHz.
First up I work for myself as NZ distributor.

Yes hexkey is wrong when all option codes are alphanumeric.

SDS210* Plus models are 100 MHz BW rated however tests have shown they are ~185 MHz at their -3dB point.
(1V p-p in for 0.707mV measured)
Enjoy your scope.  :)
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #214 on: June 09, 2021, 07:27:56 am »
This is my first post at eevblog. Does anyone have issue to open the keygen link in the thread? Somehow I get the message below:
           Woah! Looks like this repl needs an owner.

There is also a Lauszus/main.py at github. Are they the same? Thanks.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #215 on: June 09, 2021, 08:34:14 am »
This is my first post at eevblog. Does anyone have issue to open the keygen link in the thread? Somehow I get the message below:
           Woah! Looks like this repl needs an owner.

There is also a Lauszus/main.py at github. Are they the same? Thanks.

Welcome to the forum.

It is locked to changes on the GitHub page.

So you need to copy the code to a local running instance of Python on your PC or Mac / Linux machine, and then edit as needed and run.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #216 on: June 09, 2021, 01:20:33 pm »
This is my first post at eevblog. Does anyone have issue to open the keygen link in the thread? Somehow I get the message below:
           Woah! Looks like this repl needs an owner.

There is also a Lauszus/main.py at github. Are they the same? Thanks.

Welcome to the forum.

It is locked to changes on the GitHub page.

So you need to copy the code to a local running instance of Python on your PC or Mac / Linux machine, and then edit as needed and run.

Thanks a lot for the confirmation. The scope becomes so popular that it's hard to find it in stock. My order won't be shipped until two weeks later.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #217 on: June 10, 2021, 05:57:50 am »
This is my first post at eevblog. Does anyone have issue to open the keygen link in the thread? Somehow I get the message below:
           Woah! Looks like this repl needs an owner.

There is also a Lauszus/main.py at github. Are they the same? Thanks.

Welcome to the forum.

It is locked to changes on the GitHub page.

So you need to copy the code to a local running instance of Python on your PC or Mac / Linux machine, and then edit as needed and run.

Thanks a lot for the confirmation. The scope becomes so popular that it's hard to find it in stock. My order won't be shipped until two weeks later.
Codes for my scope were generated by python for Android. For some it may be easier and more convinient than playing with it on pc.
You say, that scope is difficult to find. Better look for decent 500M probes, before they all gone or skyrocket with price...
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #218 on: June 10, 2021, 09:30:55 pm »
I´ve bought "premium" but old used 350Mhz Probes - They are ways beyond my needs in every case... ;)

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #219 on: June 12, 2021, 05:25:24 am »
I´ve bought "premium" but old used 350Mhz Probes - They are ways beyond my needs in every case... ;)
I've seen that. Tried to to do the same, but few months later... No luck. Ended with 500M probes, that have cost me about 300 euro for set of four...
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #220 on: July 03, 2021, 11:34:38 am »
I just purchased an SDS2104X Plus, at Software 1.3.7R5, FPGA 2020-09-23, CPLD 03, Hardware 02-04. Using "SDS2000X+" for Model, SCOPEID sans hyphens in dual case, options updates went trivially easily.

Note, I don't see much difference with the 500MHz update except the 0.5nS/Div horizontal position and less high-frequency cutoff than at 350MHz. It's interesting to have more than one choice for limited bandwidth! (Was On/Off, Now Full/20M/200M).

Picture is a fast-rise-time pulse (avalanche 2n3904 at 160V). The peak at 350MHz (11.25V) was a little smaller than at 500MHz (13.6V). With only 10 dots on the entire screen, I'm not certain how useful the 0.5nS/Div setting is, but it makes my 5nS-rise-time signal generator (SDG1062X) ramp look quite flat!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #221 on: July 03, 2021, 02:54:14 pm »
Nice!!

Curious about your 2N3904 avalanche pulse generator. Did you use a slow HV ramp (~1KHz) with a ~160V peak voltage to avalanche the collector base junction? Reason I'm asking is I've developed a high voltage (+-175V) dual amp for use as a AWG HV amplifier and one use was considering it as a "driver" for an avalanche fast edge pulse generator.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #222 on: September 09, 2021, 12:40:10 pm »
Well the price of video cards is now almost what would pay for a sds2104x+

So now I have a new scope to set my sights on, as long as the hack still works.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #223 on: September 12, 2021, 11:01:51 am »
Well the price of video cards is now almost what would pay for a sds2104x+

So now I have a new scope to set my sights on, as long as the hack still works.
Not sure if you are waiting for confirmation here? Nothing has changed in that regard.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus Hack
« Reply #224 on: November 18, 2021, 11:10:09 pm »
I was able to get all options 'permanentified.' 

Bandwidth upgraded in steps from 200MHz and up, skipped some steps in between because not all of the subsequent steps would allow the option to be activated.

Some of the options were not in the published python script, in which case I simply added that option to the script in a format similar to the that used for the options already in the script.

The "MANCH" option is tricky in that it doesn't follow the same naming convention as the other options.  The options are truncated to max 4 characters, so use "MANC" in the script which yields a working code.

Big thank you to whoever decoded this stuff.
 
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