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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73075 on: October 24, 2020, 04:25:22 am »
Y'all may have noticed that the ol' TinkerDwagon hasn't been in here rousing the rabble all day...*

   

That's because he done wents on a road trip.


I met with fellow TEA member  cyclin_al to trade off some of those Dell server PSUs I've been buggin' y'all with for some TE (which I'll post pics of tomorrow, I think) but mostly to chew the fat and have a burger and scope out some of the local color, what with the fall foliage and such.



We met at The Iron Rooster just outside of Madoc, ON; a little town in the boonies aboot halfway between where he lives and Toronto. And did we ever talk... we talked the ears off that Iron Rooster; we were there for over 3 hours!

The food was great (had one of the best burgers I've eaten since my last trip to Nawlins), the stories were good, (short version: bd isn't a cynic, it's like that for everyone; everything "corporate" touches turns to multifaceted shit and the human race really is doomed ;)) and this place we picked mostly just because of the name... turns out it is actually a destination spot for Biker rallies and there were like 4 different groups... easily 30 or 40 people... there at the same time we were.  8)

   

AND they had a little motorcycle museum... a dozen or so vintage motorcycles in a mock showroom... and we got to look and touch (gingerly) and take our pics as evidence of the meetup. Excellent experience all around!

Just more proof of the great people who congregate in this little corner of the internet; even those from the Great White North, ehhh....?!?

Oh... and on the way home, I had me one of those You might be in Canada if... moments:



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* BTW, I noticed that still didn't stop y'all from producing 4 pages of posts...  :o
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73076 on: October 24, 2020, 05:02:57 am »
An Australian truck encounter
Whoah! Watch where that landed we might need it later.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73077 on: October 24, 2020, 05:39:29 am »
Just for shits & giggles...  >:D





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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73078 on: October 24, 2020, 08:02:18 am »
BravoV.......the package from me to you is FINALLY out for delivery.  :-+

Don't know if I'll be on Discord today. The lady is here and not sure what she has planned. 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73079 on: October 24, 2020, 09:03:32 am »
RIP  :-DD

I’m fixing a stupid mistake I made today. When I set up the 6205b to be unswitched because of that duff switch I removed the current meter switch from circuit when I should have shorted it. Thus it doesn’t actually measure current on the left channel. Going to fix it today.

I am considering stealing the switch out of the 6206b to fix the 6205b because the latter is more flexible. But at the same time I’ve got 7 independent outputs on 5 power supplies now so do I need to futz with anything  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73080 on: October 24, 2020, 09:52:05 am »
Well shit today is sucking. Found a couple of 27c16 EPROMs in a box and dug my willem programmer out and realised it’s the parallel port variety. I don’t actually have any parallel ports these days  :palm:

Arduino hack job coming up. All I need to do is fill one eprom up with a test program.

Going to use my PCB UV box to erase the things  :palm:
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73081 on: October 24, 2020, 09:55:37 am »
BravoV.......the package from me to you is FINALLY out for delivery.  :-+

Don't know if I'll be on Discord today. The lady is here and not sure what she has planned.

Its here, screws and knobs from far-far away land. Thank you med !!!  :clap: :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73082 on: October 24, 2020, 10:06:27 am »
Well shit today is sucking. Found a couple of 27c16 EPROMs in a box and dug my willem programmer out and realised it’s the parallel port variety. I don’t actually have any parallel ports these days  :palm:

Arduino hack job coming up. All I need to do is fill one eprom up with a test program.

Going to use my PCB UV box to erase the things  :palm:
Which reminds me that I've got a Eprom UV eraser but have never had a programmer  :palm:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73083 on: October 24, 2020, 10:08:35 am »
Well it turns out the tube is gone in my UV box as well so I'm screwed on both fronts.

I'm just going to order some AT28C16 EEPROMs instead. Much easier!  :-DD

Edit: well apparently you can only get 8k minimum size now with AT28C64 from RS. That and a couple of decent ZIF sockets is less than a new tube and a new EPROM programmer and les hassle.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73084 on: October 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am »
Well shit today is sucking. Found a couple of 27c16 EPROMs in a box and dug my willem programmer out and realised it’s the parallel port variety. I don’t actually have any parallel ports these days  :palm:

Arduino hack job coming up. All I need to do is fill one eprom up with a test program.

Going to use my PCB UV box to erase the things  :palm:
You don't have at least a old laptop with real serial and parallel ports, USB and a floppy running XP and bootable to DOS? That's pretty much essential for a lot of 90's TE.  I keep a couple and a SFF desktop with, IDE, SATA and Floppy interfaces. That was essential for setting up a new HDD (actually a SSD in my case) for my R& S CRTU-RU / CMU200. The software install only works if the drive boots from  DOS 6.22. The auto partitioning won't work with freeDos, XP etc, it looks for 6.22.
Interesting work issue where IT say "must use supported OS fully patched and up to date" when to update firmware on in use hardware you need a XP machine with real hardware UART RS232 port (not USB). Have to keep a couple of 20 year old Sony VAIOs out of IT's clutches  >:D
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73085 on: October 24, 2020, 10:50:44 am »
With all the retro computing stuff going on lately, it got me thinking about my old Psion PDA's, Revo Plus brought new many years ago and 2nd hand 5MX. Managed to find the Revo but the 5M so far anyway. The Revo has built-in rechargeable batteries that were as you would expect dead as nails after these years have gone by. At first glance there is no way to gain access to the insides of this thing to get at the batteries and I suddenly realised that they had us over a bloody barrel back then because the only way to replace the AAA batteries was to return the things to Psion and get ripped off.

I say ripped off because I decided to check online to see if they are still repairable and it seems you can still buy these dammed things online, slightly reworked to allow FB, Twitter etc to work on them, starting from £125 and going upto about £500 depending on the number services you wish to use on them  :wtf: The repair charge / replace batteries charge is £75 plus carriage :wtf:  They fuck off at that, so I looked around for ideas and discovered a site which describes the process to replace them yourself for a fraction of the price, but man are they fecking fiddly and with a high risk of breaking them completely  :palm: Anyway I decided I was going in regardless and succeeded in extracting the batteries OK, but now I'm wondering if I can rebuild it again once new batteries arrive.

https://www.r3uk.com/index.php/tech-tips/34-disassembly-guides/3-psion-revodiamond-mako-disassembly-and-battery-replacement
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73086 on: October 24, 2020, 10:53:51 am »
Well shit today is sucking. Found a couple of 27c16 EPROMs in a box and dug my willem programmer out and realised it’s the parallel port variety. I don’t actually have any parallel ports these days  :palm:

Arduino hack job coming up. All I need to do is fill one eprom up with a test program.

Going to use my PCB UV box to erase the things  :palm:
You don't have at least a old laptop with real serial and parallel ports, USB and a floppy running XP and bootable to DOS? That's pretty much essential for a lot of 90's TE.  I keep a couple and a SFF desktop with, IDE, SATA and Floppy interfaces. That was essential for setting up a new HDD (actually a SSD in my case) for my R& S CRTU-RU / CMU200. The software install only works if the drive boots from  DOS 6.22. The auto partitioning won't work with freeDos, XP etc, it looks for 6.22.
Interesting work issue where IT say "must use supported OS fully patched and up to date" when to update firmware on in use hardware you need a XP machine with real hardware UART RS232 port (not USB). Have to keep a couple of 20 year old Sony VAIOs out of IT's clutches  >:D


Nope nothing. Oldest machine I've got is a Lenovo T440.

I'm working around the issue. I'm going to use AT28C64's in this as they are trivially adaptable to the circuit on these z80 boards with some hackery and I can program them with 5V levels only. That means I can use an arduino and some 74hc595's to drive the thing, both of which i have on hand. Writing the code now. Already written most of the C program to convert z80asm binary output to commands for the arduino end to handle...

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73087 on: October 24, 2020, 10:55:27 am »
With all the retro computing stuff going on lately, it got me thinking about my old Psion PDA's, Revo Plus brought new many years ago and 2nd hand 5MX. Managed to find the Revo but the 5M so far anyway. The Revo has built-in rechargeable batteries that were as you would expect dead as nails after these years have gone by. At first glance there is no way to gain access to the insides of this thing to get at the batteries and I suddenly realised that they had us over a bloody barrel back then because the only way to replace the AAA batteries was to return the things to Psion and get ripped off.

I say ripped off because I decided to check online to see if they are still repairable and it seems you can still buy these dammed things online, slightly reworked to allow FB, Twitter etc to work on them, starting from £125 and going upto about £500 depending on the number services you wish to use on them  :wtf: The repair charge / replace batteries charge is £75 plus carriage :wtf:  They fuck off at that, so I looked around for ideas and discovered a site which describes the process to replace them yourself for a fraction of the price, but man are they fecking fiddly and with a high risk of breaking them completely  :palm: Anyway I decided I was going in regardless and succeeded in extracting the batteries OK, but now I'm wondering if I can rebuild it again once new batteries arrive.

https://www.r3uk.com/index.php/tech-tips/34-disassembly-guides/3-psion-revodiamond-mako-disassembly-and-battery-replacement

That's a bugger. Let us know how it goes  :-+

I actually used an Acorn branded Psion 3 for a number of years: http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/PocketBook.html
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73088 on: October 24, 2020, 11:06:29 am »
Well shit today is sucking. Found a couple of 27c16 EPROMs in a box and dug my willem programmer out and realised it’s the parallel port variety. I don’t actually have any parallel ports these days  :palm:

Arduino hack job coming up. All I need to do is fill one eprom up with a test program.

Going to use my PCB UV box to erase the things  :palm:

I keep one of these on hand for old hardware. It will work with most devices: https://www.ebay.de/itm/USB-to-DB-25-Pin-DB25-Female-Parallel-Port-Cable-Adapter-D-Sub-for-Printer-Black/224041554545

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73089 on: October 24, 2020, 11:26:14 am »
With all the retro computing stuff going on lately, it got me thinking about my old Psion PDA's, Revo Plus brought new many years ago and 2nd hand 5MX. Managed to find the Revo but the 5M so far anyway. The Revo has built-in rechargeable batteries that were as you would expect dead as nails after these years have gone by. At first glance there is no way to gain access to the insides of this thing to get at the batteries and I suddenly realised that they had us over a bloody barrel back then because the only way to replace the AAA batteries was to return the things to Psion and get ripped off.

I say ripped off because I decided to check online to see if they are still repairable and it seems you can still buy these dammed things online, slightly reworked to allow FB, Twitter etc to work on them, starting from £125 and going upto about £500 depending on the number services you wish to use on them  :wtf: The repair charge / replace batteries charge is £75 plus carriage :wtf:  They fuck off at that, so I looked around for ideas and discovered a site which describes the process to replace them yourself for a fraction of the price, but man are they fecking fiddly and with a high risk of breaking them completely  :palm: Anyway I decided I was going in regardless and succeeded in extracting the batteries OK, but now I'm wondering if I can rebuild it again once new batteries arrive.

https://www.r3uk.com/index.php/tech-tips/34-disassembly-guides/3-psion-revodiamond-mako-disassembly-and-battery-replacement

That's a bugger. Let us know how it goes  :-+

I actually used an Acorn branded Psion 3 for a number of years: http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/PocketBook.html
There were a few other that also rebranded various Psion products I seem to remember.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-NK188-U-1x-Panasonic-Eneloop-AAA-R3-battery-with-tags-1-Piece-U-Soldering/283448227288
What kind of stupid postal charges is this? Well they are not going to be getting an order from me, they can fuck off now  :scared:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73090 on: October 24, 2020, 12:04:54 pm »
Why are you trying to buy tagged cells from Holland?
As you the silly postage, it's Fedaxe, what do you expect a reasonable price? They are always three times to cost of others, hence why I never receive anything sent by them.
Edit: listing also has economy post at around $6.

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« Reply #73091 on: October 24, 2020, 12:31:06 pm »
Why are you trying to buy tagged cells from Holland?
As you the silly postage, it's Fedaxe, what do you expect a reasonable price? They are always three times to cost of others, hence why I never receive anything sent by them.
Edit: listing also has economy post at around $6.

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The economy rate takes over 2 weeks to arrive, and also, I was looking to order from Holland because these are only batteries that have the configuration of having long tags on the same side that seem to be available on eBay. Yes I'm aware that Fedex do know how to charge, but then Mouser also use Fedex for their deliveries and I recently had a lot of capacitors and other parts arrive from the USA, in under 48 hours via Fedex for just £12.

I think that makes the £21.85 for a single AAA battery seem like a rip off personally, even for a quick delivery.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73092 on: October 24, 2020, 12:34:04 pm »
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-NK188-U-1x-Panasonic-Eneloop-AAA-R3-battery-with-tags-1-Piece-U-Soldering/283448227288
What kind of stupid postal charges is this? Well they are not going to be getting an order from me, they can fuck off now  :scared:

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Item location:
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« Reply #73093 on: October 24, 2020, 01:06:22 pm »
Why are you trying to buy tagged cells from Holland?
As you the silly postage, it's Fedaxe, what do you expect a reasonable price? They are always three times to cost of others, hence why I never receive anything sent by them.
Edit: listing also has economy post at around $6.

David
The economy rate takes over 2 weeks to arrive, and also, I was looking to order from Holland because these are only batteries that have the configuration of having long tags on the same side that seem to be available on eBay. Yes I'm aware that Fedex do know how to charge, but then Mouser also use Fedex for their deliveries and I recently had a lot of capacitors and other parts arrive from the USA, in under 48 hours via Fedex for just £12.

I think that makes the £21.85 for a single AAA battery seem like a rip off personally, even for a quick delivery.

That is the exception, big business like Mouser will get bulk discounts from Fedaxe, stuff sent internationally on ebay from small sellers won't.
Last time I bought rechargeable batteries on ePay I got fakes, never again.
Can you not buy ordinary tagged cells from a proper supplier & fold the tags the other way if needed?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73094 on: October 24, 2020, 01:30:15 pm »
Why are you trying to buy tagged cells from Holland?
As you the silly postage, it's Fedaxe, what do you expect a reasonable price? They are always three times to cost of others, hence why I never receive anything sent by them.
Edit: listing also has economy post at around $6.

David
The economy rate takes over 2 weeks to arrive, and also, I was looking to order from Holland because these are only batteries that have the configuration of having long tags on the same side that seem to be available on eBay. Yes I'm aware that Fedex do know how to charge, but then Mouser also use Fedex for their deliveries and I recently had a lot of capacitors and other parts arrive from the USA, in under 48 hours via Fedex for just £12.

I think that makes the £21.85 for a single AAA battery seem like a rip off personally, even for a quick delivery.

That is the exception, big business like Mouser will get bulk discounts from Fedaxe, stuff sent internationally on ebay from small sellers won't.
Last time I bought rechargeable batteries on ePay I got fakes, never again.
Can you not buy ordinary tagged cells from a proper supplier & fold the tags the other way if needed?

David
Not easily, space in the Revo is extremely tight and everything needs to be just right for a satisfactory outcome otherwise I can see the Revo being destroyed in the effort.
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« Reply #73095 on: October 24, 2020, 01:58:19 pm »
BravoV.......the package from me to you is FINALLY out for delivery.  :-+

Don't know if I'll be on Discord today. The lady is here and not sure what she has planned.

Its here, screws and knobs from far-far away land. Thank you med !!!  :clap: :-+

Good deal! You're welcome.  :-+

It took almost a month. I sent it on October 2nd. (But it did spend quite of bit of time at JFK customs)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73096 on: October 24, 2020, 02:06:27 pm »
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-NK188-U-1x-Panasonic-Eneloop-AAA-R3-battery-with-tags-1-Piece-U-Soldering/283448227288
What kind of stupid postal charges is this? Well they are not going to be getting an order from me, they can fuck off now  :scared:

Doesn't post to Netherlands
Item location:
Eindhoven, Netherlands

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Looks like the seller messed up on the exclusions:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73097 on: October 24, 2020, 02:19:55 pm »
Well, I decided to do like everybody and bought a NanoVNA  ;D

(SNIP)   

Conclusion, it's working relatively well on the nF range. And it's really interesting to see the capacitance changing over frequency. When you reach 1uF the frequency is too high and the result are not super accurate. I also tried in the pF range but I think my calibration setup is failing me and it was not super conclusive.

Looks exactly like the kit I ordered from Bang-em-good. Even down to the crooked N-connectors...  :o

I went with bg because they offered a fair price, and I had some affiliate points to burn; brought total cost of that and the Tiny SA down to (goes and looks) US$128. Oh yay! They're showing shipped!  :-+ I might actually see them by Christmas!  :-DD

Hope mine resolves as nicely as yours! 

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It's a really nice piece of kit for the price. Also, if you want improved accuracy, someone actually measured the SAA-2N calibration standards and he is providing the settings for NanoVNA-Saver and the files for Vna-QT (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/4-inch-display-saa-2n-nanovna-v2-3ghz-with-n-type/msg3284146/#msg3284146).
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73098 on: October 24, 2020, 02:40:20 pm »
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-NK188-U-1x-Panasonic-Eneloop-AAA-R3-battery-with-tags-1-Piece-U-Soldering/283448227288
What kind of stupid postal charges is this? Well they are not going to be getting an order from me, they can fuck off now  :scared:

Doesn't post to Netherlands
Item location:
Eindhoven, Netherlands

 :o


Looks like the seller messed up on the exclusions:

" Item location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Postage to: Worldwide
Excludes: Alaska/Hawaii, US Protectorates, APO/FPO, Middle East, South East Asia, South America, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan Republic, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen, Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Congo, Democratic Republic of the, Congo, Republic of the, Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon Republic, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mayotte, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, Saint Helena, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Swaziland, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Western Sahara, Zambia, Zimbabwe"

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Hey Canada is not in the exclusion, I can order one  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #73099 on: October 24, 2020, 02:41:49 pm »
That must be where the three sold items went to! :D

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