Hi folks, i'm new here and new with a thermal imaging too.
As i see, the stuff we call a "thermal caméra" is a bit complex:
• thermal imagers "to see", devices which gives us a thermal image w/o good sensivity and/or correct temperature values, usualy ≥9Hz (Seek 15Hz, Thermapp with 25Hz etc) and hunting stuff. Nice for contrast scenes with nice resolution.
• thermal imagers "to measure", devices with a good sensivity and good image processing, FPS between 9 and more (Fluke 50Hz, Flir 60Hz etc).
More money we invest, more cool stuff we get
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I'm looking for a device to measure and to "search". I'm planning to spend minimum money, i'm friendly with soldering (but don't want to spend my time repairing something cheap or to risk to fail with something expensive), so i'm gonna buy a brand new one. I'm under Debian and Android.
I don't need to look far away, i want to look close, 1-4 meters are enough.
I always can come closer, so no need to have more pixels than 160x120 and more €/£/$ to spend for.
I'd like to have correct measured values when i measure too.
I'd like to have kind of PiP/MSX-like to be able recognize "what it was?", but if camera shoot raw+JPEG thats fine too, but less handy on lowres sensor during a live inspection.
I don't need 25Hz or even 15Hz, due there are no moving parts: i want to look for thermal isolation, water leakage in my appt sometimes, check some old laptops and sometimes my car's engine. So low temperature range is fine for me (upto 120°C).
Due those devices made for 7-14um waves, guess best for me to look for ≥14um pixels.
I've seen a nice review on YouTube (but pretty old, in 3 parts about thermal imagers by mjlorton) where he explained which thermal imager can perfectly fit your needs. I've seen HTi reviews, Flir, Seek, even Fluke and Thermapp. I've read about "100 bucks camera" or lepton based stuff. I've read plenty articles here too (this is a great resource).
And finally what i can say:
• Seek (compact) is good when you cooling them to 20°C, but they have awful image processing, each 15th pixel dead and flipping often shutter annoying. From the reviews on the web noise is high and measured data is often wrong (black body test), but it have 14um pixels and nice resolution (what remains..). From this forum i found that Seek are sensible to power supply.
• Flir (1G2) have avg sensivity, 12um pixels and the 160x120 résolution. It did perfect test measures with a blackbody.
• HTi using Seek modules, so have same problems, but regarding some reviews they can have 4% dead pixels (if measured well), for HT-201, tested. Instead of 0.5%.
• Fluke, Bosch, i3system etc - just out of the budget and my plans.
In France Flir 1G3 cost 242€, 1G3 PRO LT 330€ and for 1G3 they are asking 440€.
Seek compact 290€, XR for 340€ and 480€ for pro.
HTi and i3s/xinfrared i can find on Aliexpress.
Standalone or with phone doesn't matter, but phone accessories are cheaper and handy and, guess, the best for a 1st steps, so i dont want to fall down.
I know, what ± best are Flir Exx (e30/40/etc) and they can be upgraded (=hacked), but they are for PRO usage.
Actually most useful what i fond for is Flir one gen3.
PRO version too much expensive for "low res" (160x120), silicon lenses and poor battery life. Better to invest x3 and buy used pro-Flir.
ONE (simple) looks restricted in the app, guess this way Flir want to say "wanna features in the app - but better one".
PRO LT looks similar to ONE simple, but in the app you have all features as for PRO and cost +100€ more then the simple one.
ONE and PRO LT have same resolution, 80x60, same 17um pixels, while PRO have 160x120 and 12um pixels. On photos they have the same batteries, so probably 160x120@12um will drain more than 80x60@17um (include processing).
Internet say what PRO based on Lepton 3. But what used in ONE and PRO LT i did not found, it can be old 2.0 or new 2.5.
If i told something wrong, please correct me and show me the way.
I'd like to know if Flir 1g3 is a good choise. Which difference between PRO LT and ONE? If they are based on same lepton version, why they have a different sensivity? Can we run full Flir app with "simple" ONE (modded version)? And if we can use Flir One/PRO LT and keep it plugged to powerbank same time?
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