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Offline eKretz

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #325 on: April 03, 2019, 07:16:11 pm »
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« Reply #326 on: April 04, 2019, 02:47:28 pm »
Hi all

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i used my TE-Q1 to look at some chips sending data in my home automation setup. Mainly a Lora RFM95 module and an ESP8266 sending data.

The lora footage is not very good since the heat is very low but its possible to see the heat propergate thru the chip. The esp looks much more interessting on how the heat radiates from the traces in the PCB

take a look at the video
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #327 on: April 04, 2019, 03:06:19 pm »
@agh768 - welcome to the group, and thank you for posting such a fascinating first image.

I got similar results when I looked at the multi-core processor on a Raspberry Pi. You can actually see different parts of the chip 'light up' as a benchmark exercises different numbers of cores and facilities. The links contain videos and notes.



Interestingly, unlike your excellent example I didn't see any evidence of the heat being conducted away via the PCB. Maybe that's why this version of the Pi had a reputation for running hot, and has been superseded with one that has a heatsink bonded to the chip.

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #328 on: April 06, 2019, 06:03:40 pm »
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Therm-App Pro, 13mm f/1 lens, ThermViewer,  as-shot.
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #329 on: April 07, 2019, 02:30:00 pm »
Ducks moving around
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Color palette added in post processing.







Can you see the little bird?
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #330 on: April 07, 2019, 09:01:47 pm »
it does look really smooth, is that really 9 hz?

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #331 on: April 08, 2019, 04:01:19 pm »
it does look really smooth, is that really 9 hz?

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here is a birdie I shot today for a planned project

CAT S60 with DIY lens
Yes it's 9fps.

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Rotation at 1.5x speed


Chickens walking around

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #332 on: April 19, 2019, 08:41:42 pm »
some testing of my TE-Q1 with 19mm lens after sunset.

 

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« Reply #333 on: April 20, 2019, 07:21:08 am »
some testing of my TE-Q1 with 19mm lens after sunset.
So many users of the TE-Q1 here. :D What does the extra lense do? More field of view? Nice "green iron" color palette you made there. The pictures with cars is that after sunset too? Since the car shadows are cooler than the surroundings it looks like the sun is still up. When the sun is down shadows and enclosed areas tend to be warmer than the surroundings.
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #334 on: April 20, 2019, 08:29:26 am »
So many users of the TE-Q1 here. :D What does the extra lense do? More field of view?
The 19mm lens is basically the most "tele" official option for TE-Q1, i.e. "zooms in" the most (and most narrow view). Not that much of zoom, really, but still.  Also, the most expensive lens, like 350€ at https://www.thermalexpert.eu/english-1/shop/lenses-and-accessoires/
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #335 on: April 20, 2019, 06:17:43 pm »
Quick comparison of three Therm-App cameras and a FLIR SC660

1st image - Therm-App, 384x288, unmodified 9Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 768x576

2nd image - Therm-App, 384x288, 9Hz camera modified to 25Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 768x576

3rd image - Therm-App Pro, 640x480, unmodified 25Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 1280x960

4th image - Therm-App Pro, 640x480, unmodified 25Hz, 35mm lens to give same FoV as 19mm on 384x288 cameras, Thermviewer, superresolution to 1280x960

5th image - FLIR SC660, 24mm lens, x2 upscaled to 1280x960

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6th image - Argus 3, photographed off screen, due to the limitations of the camera's screen this image does not exactly represent the 320x240 resolution of the thermal sensor

7th image - visible light view of scene


Images 1-4 were made with ThermViewer set to its subjectively 'best' settings (essentially the same for all four images) and post-processed in Paint Shop Pro to give a more pleasing greyscale but are otherwise as-shot.

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #336 on: April 20, 2019, 07:45:21 pm »
Quick comparison of three Therm-App cameras and a FLIR SC660

1st image - Therm-App, 384x288, unmodified 9Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 768x576

2nd image - Therm-App, 384x288, 9Hz camera modified to 25Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 768x576

3rd image - Therm-App Pro, 640x480, unmodified 25Hz, 19mm lens, Thermviewer, superresolution to 1280x960

4th image - Therm-App Pro, 640x480, unmodified 25Hz, 35mm lens to give same FoV as 19mm on 384x288 cameras, Thermviewer, superresolution to 1280x960

5th image - FLIR SC660, 24mm lens, x2 upscaled to 1280x960


Images 1-4 were made with ThermViewer set to its subjectively 'best' settings (essentially the same for all four images) and post-processed in Paint Shop Pro to give a more pleasing greyscale but are otherwise as-shot.
Could you make a comparison between Therm-App 384x288 and Therm-App Pro 640x480 with an indoor scene where there is little thermal contrast? The kind of scene that results in noisy pictures.
 

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« Reply #337 on: April 20, 2019, 08:41:29 pm »
I'd say the FLIR walked away with that one. Just a little more expensive though... ;D
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #338 on: April 20, 2019, 08:55:20 pm »
Could you make a comparison between Therm-App 384x288 and Therm-App Pro 640x480 with an indoor scene where there is little thermal contrast? The kind of scene that results in noisy pictures.

I second that motion!  Something like full grayscale spread over 1.6 degrees C; certainly no more than 3.2 degrees C.  Same for the FLIR, but you might need to go lower than 1 degree span.  ;)
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #339 on: April 22, 2019, 05:25:09 am »
Images taken with a Thermal Expert M1

Captured as CSV on Android smartphone, converted to PNG with Frenky's ThexConvertGUI-0_3 application (code changes required to make it work with the M1) and finally up-scaled 400% using ImageJ with Bicubic interpolation.

Here's my lunch (pizza and garlic bread) heating up in the oven.  ;D

Thermal scale was from 20 and 120 degrees Celsius.
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #340 on: April 22, 2019, 12:20:47 pm »
Could you make a comparison between Therm-App 384x288 and Therm-App Pro 640x480 with an indoor scene where there is little thermal contrast? The kind of scene that results in noisy pictures.

Will do. Any  preference as to lenses? I have 13mm, 19mm and 35mm available. 19mm on both cameras gives exactly the same level of illumination (of course) but different fields of view.

Probably the fairest test is 384x288 with 19mm f/1.1 and 640x480 with 35mm f/1.1 - the lenses are the same aperture and, as seen earlier, have the same field of view.
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #341 on: April 22, 2019, 09:53:42 pm »

Probably the fairest test is 384x288 with 19mm f/1.1 and 640x480 with 35mm f/1.1 - the lenses are the same aperture and, as seen earlier, have the same field of view.

Agreed, but the field of view is secondary in my opinion, since noise is the issue of concern.
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #342 on: April 22, 2019, 10:01:33 pm »
would it be possible to export/upload png instead of jpg? the SC600 image above  shows quite a few jpeg compression artefacts (but still looks sharper to me than the Therm-App ones.) it also looks a little like there are sharpening algorithms applied to the FLIR one?
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #343 on: April 23, 2019, 12:09:10 am »
Playing around with a 5 year old Seek Thermal XR, a Samsung S5 camera, and Photoshop.

 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #344 on: April 23, 2019, 09:07:37 am »

Probably the fairest test is 384x288 with 19mm f/1.1 and 640x480 with 35mm f/1.1 - the lenses are the same aperture and, as seen earlier, have the same field of view.

Agreed, but the field of view is secondary in my opinion, since noise is the issue of concern.

Folks - this is wandering off the 'gallery' topic so I'll start a new thread specifically on comparing Therm-App cameras. I'll update this post with the details when I have taken the relevant images and established the thread.

In brief answer to @polar yes, the FLIR images do come out fairly heavily compressed-looking, even though I set the save quality to best in the menu system. I have yet to investigate importing the images into FLIR Tools or other software in order to get better-quality saves.
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #345 on: April 23, 2019, 10:01:19 am »
Ultrapurple, not sure if your flavor of .jpgs works, but you can try your luck with the steps outlined here to get a raw image: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg342072/#msg342072



this is a gallery so you deserve some images.

here are two vertical panoramas of a building I shot. It is nothing special and more like a test. They are shot with my phone and DIY lens. the pixels are upscaled by a factor of 5.66 and superresolution is enabled.
 
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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #346 on: April 27, 2019, 06:10:33 pm »
Hi guys,
I tried to get some nice shots of the sky with broken clouds - all panoramas and quite large. I did not expect the stitching to work as good as it turned out due to quite a bit of wind and moving clouds. But I am really pleased with the results.  ;D

Camera: TE-V1
Lens: Ophir 35mm f/1.4
Subject: town, landscape, cloudy sky (sun in image1)
Processing:
 - structured panorama shots with 10x8 (image 1+2) or 15x5 (image3) images in serpentine movement (8°/6° fixed position increments)
 - 8 images averaged per position
 - raw export to .png with varying gamma correction on almost full dynamic range (except sun in image 1)
 - stitching with Microsoft ICE
 - post-processing using PS (brightness/contrast - all images) and own tools for contrast limited local histogram equalization (images 2+3)
 - 50% resize and conversion to .jpg for forum upload (original images are 5MPix+)
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #347 on: April 27, 2019, 07:18:31 pm »
Those look great! Nice job.
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #348 on: April 27, 2019, 07:20:41 pm »
Hi guys,
I tried to get some nice shots of the sky with broken clouds - all panoramas and quite large. I did not expect the stitching to work as good as it turned out due to quite a bit of wind and moving clouds. But I am really pleased with the results.  ;D

Camera: TE-V1
Lens: Ophir 35mm f/1.4
Subject: town, landscape, cloudy sky (sun in image1)
Processing:
 - structured panorama shots with 10x8 (image 1+2) or 15x5 (image3) images in serpentine movement (8°/6° fixed position increments)
 - 8 images averaged per position
 - raw export to .png with varying gamma correction on almost full dynamic range (except sun in image 1)
 - stitching with Microsoft ICE
 - post-processing using PS (brightness/contrast - all images) and own tools for contrast limited local histogram equalization (images 2+3)
 - 50% resize and conversion to .jpg for forum upload (original images are 5MPix+)
It's so big, detailed, beautiful and noise free!  :scared:
 

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Re: Thermal Imaging Gallery
« Reply #349 on: April 27, 2019, 09:30:24 pm »
Hi guys,
I tried to get some nice shots of the sky with broken clouds - all panoramas and quite large. I did not expect the stitching to work as good as it turned out due to quite a bit of wind and moving clouds. But I am really pleased with the results.  ;D

That is pretty awesome!  Gives an idea what a 20 megapixel thermal camera might produce...
 


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