Most ICE vehicles don't require engine replacements. When there is a major problem specific components can be replaced rather than the whole thing. That's mostly NOT going to be the case with the electric motors or batteries.Really? That only happens when engine still has low mileage. When it's over 100k-150k miles or often even less, most modern engines become irreparable scrap.
I had an old (1980) Volvo 240 that the odometer broke on just short of 400K miles. I sold it and the new owner had it for about 5 years and then I got it back, still running but beyond repair for other reasons. I've ridden in Priuses (Prii?) used as airport shuttles that were into the 400K mile range. If you take a more or less ordinary car and use it a lot and maintain it a bit, you can rack up a lot of miles.
I had an old (1980) Volvo 240 that the odometer broke on just short of 400K miles. I sold it and the new owner had it for about 5 years and then I got it back, still running but beyond repair for other reasons. I've ridden in Priuses (Prii?) used as airport shuttles that were into the 400K mile range. If you take a more or less ordinary car and use it a lot and maintain it a bit, you can rack up a lot of miles.
Your 'debunking' contained too many ifs that there just wasn't enough meat to sink my teeth into. For example the assumption that at night most power comes from nuclear. How about charging during the day at work? Also you choose an unrealistically low EV power consumption figure. The reasons people get low power consumption for EVs is because they mostly use them for short non-highway trips. But in those cases a hybrid will also be much more efficient.
Properly taken care of, virtually any modern ICE or EV battery will last the life of the car, so this is a non-issue.
Still trying to find a used LEAF. It seems to be either sub $20k for a 2014 with 24kW pack, or $33k+ for a 2016 with 30kW pack.
Still trying to find a used LEAF. It seems to be either sub $20k for a 2014 with 24kW pack, or $33k+ for a 2016 with 30kW pack.
But the market is saturated because many were given away on very generous lease/contract purchase deals (a colleague of mine was leasing one, all in, for £99 a month, 8000 miles per annum
Most ICE vehicles don't require engine replacements. When there is a major problem specific components can be replaced rather than the whole thing. That's mostly NOT going to be the case with the electric motors or batteries.Really? That only happens when engine still has low mileage. When it's over 100k-150k miles or often even less, most modern engines become irreparable scrap.That's the most unintelligent thing you've ever written and has no basis in reality.
Most ICE vehicles don't require engine replacements. When there is a major problem specific components can be replaced rather than the whole thing. That's mostly NOT going to be the case with the electric motors or batteries.Really? That only happens when engine still has low mileage. When it's over 100k-150k miles or often even less, most modern engines become irreparable scrap.That's the most unintelligent thing you've ever written and has no basis in reality.I agree. This might have been true in the 70's but nowadays you can get 300k km from any car engine if you replace the oil in time and don't do stupid stuff like continue driving when there is a red alarm light on.
Still trying to find a used LEAF. It seems to be either sub $20k for a 2014 with 24kW pack, or $33k+ for a 2016 with 30kW pack.
100k miles = 160k km. Half of 300k so no, Wrapers numbers are way off.
But the market is saturated because many were given away on very generous lease/contract purchase deals (a colleague of mine was leasing one, all in, for £99 a month, 8000 miles per annumDo you know how that worked? I know people in the US who got deals like that. "$110 a month, no fuel costs, I can park at the chargers at work, avoiding a long walk across the car park, and we get an extra car for use around town" seemed like an irresistible offer to some people who were not even looking for an extra car. I don't see how that price makes sense to Nissan, though, even with lots of government incentives.
30 kWh battery is complete crap which degrades very fast. Much worse even than not that good 24 kWh battery. There is very high chance there will be less capacity left than if you buy older car with 24 kWh battery.
Properly taken care of, virtually any modern ICE or EV battery will last the life of the car, so this is a non-issue.This is a little bit like saying "virtually any human heart will last the life of a person."
I'm interested in ESR testers for batteries and wouldn't they tell you a lot about the pack's health?
I'm interested in ESR testers for batteries and wouldn't they tell you a lot about the pack's health? Before you buy used, one test to do instead of speculative psychology, hope and optimism.
I'm interested in ESR testers for batteries and wouldn't they tell you a lot about the pack's health?I have looked into this a couple of years ago. The problem is that there are several aging mechanisms at play and you can't just look at the ESR (or even better: complex impedance) to see what the battery pack's health is. At most you can do a full cycle test and see how much of the capacity is still there and based on the mileage of the car try to extrapolate how much more you can get from the battery pack. However wear on a battery pack is severely influenced by how it is charged, how it is discharged and at what temperatures this happened. So you can get to a number with +/-30% accuracy.
I'm interested in ESR testers for batteries and wouldn't they tell you a lot about the pack's health?I have looked into this a couple of years ago. The problem is that there are several aging mechanisms at play and you can't just look at the ESR (or even better: complex impedance) to see what the battery pack's health is. At most you can do a full cycle test and see how much of the capacity is still there and based on the mileage of the car try to extrapolate how much more you can get from the battery pack. However wear on a battery pack is severely influenced by how it is charged, how it is discharged and at what temperatures this happened. So you can get to a number with +/-30% accuracy.EVs manage to measure battery capacity just fine by coloumb counting. To do this accurately, the pack needs to be fully charged and fully discharged periodically.
Dendrites short the cells.
Leaf is a city EV; treat it as any more and you'll have a bad time I think.
Still trying to find a used LEAF. It seems to be either sub $20k for a 2014 with 24kW pack, or $33k+ for a 2016 with 30kW pack.
It's kWh, not kW. The motor in the Leaf is rated for 80kW in the older models, but EV batteries are always capacity rated in kWh or Ah.