EEVblog #826 - Siglent CEO Eric Qin Visits The EEVblog Lab

[Monkeh]

That's not what I said, now is it?

This conversation might be progressed more constructively if you clarified your point. For example, specifying what "certain things" you were referring to.

Or if people didn't make silly assumptions. All I said is that the license has certain requirements. I did not say 'you must release all the code'.

Must I really copy and paste the contents of the GPL here?

[tautech]

Very interesting! Apparently Atten and Siglent have the same company history. It is a 1:1 duplicate.
So they both have the same roots from DinYoung technologies Co.,Ltd.
But then at some point they split in two entities? Anybody who knows more about this?

Siglent = Atten.

Certainly seems that Siglent was called DinYoung technologies Co.,Ltd. and made scopes for Atten, but not sure if they were an OEM supplier to Atten or an actual subsidiary?
http://www.09635.com/company/2041764.aspx Says they are an Atten group subsidiary, but their wiki (??) page http://baike.baidu.com/view/8055878.htm does not mention Atten at all, and Atten no longer sell scopes. Maybe a question for the CEO, what happened between these two companies?

Yeah right.
Atten scopes in Aussie:
http://www.altronics.com.au/test-measurement/oscilloscopes/

Siglent also appear to be / have been an OEM for LeCroy.

And many others worldwide.
BK Precision for example:
http://www.bkprecision.com/products/oscilloscopes/2190D-100-mhz-1-gsa-s-2-ch-digital-storage-oscilloscope.html

At one time I grey marketed Atten but their support could not compare with Siglent so I jumped ship and was offered a distributorship after closing a 10+ unit sale for them.

Now none of my old web links to Atten sites work. 

[rs20]

Must I really copy and paste the contents of the GPL here?

If you think Siglent has fulfilled its obligations under the GPL, then your comment seem awfully random. If you think Siglent has failed to fulfil its obligations under the GPL, it seems a one-sentence summary of that failure would be helpful to advance this conversation past your games?

[Monkeh]

Must I really copy and paste the contents of the GPL here?

If you think Siglent has fulfilled its obligations under the GPL, then your comment seem awfully random. If you think Siglent has failed to fulfil its obligations under the GPL, it seems a one-sentence summary of that failure would be helpful to advance this conversation past your games?

Who's playing games?

I suggested Richard read the GPL to understand the post immediately above his. Nothing more.

[alan.green@gmail.com]

Now none of my old web links to Atten sites work. 

Atten rebranded to Gratten for their scopes and analyzers. Maybe try your links to the Gratten site instead?

http://en.gratten.cn/about_us/

[pascal_sweden]

I think that the name ATTEN is much nicer than GRATTEN.

Maybe they still use ATTEN on their actual scopes, as the name GRATTEN is too long to put on the sticker

[coppice]

I think that the name ATTEN is much nicer than GRATTEN.

Maybe they still use ATTEN on their actual scopes, as the name GRATTEN is too long to put on the sticker

Among scope makers GRATTEN is obviously the big cheese.

[Macbeth]

Now none of my old web links to Atten sites work. 

Atten rebranded to Gratten for their scopes and analyzers. Maybe try your links to the Gratten site instead?

http://en.gratten.cn/about_us/

I thought this was a joke. In the UK, mums Grattan catalogue was a famous resource to millions of teenage boys.

At least in the days before the internet.

[AlxDroidDev]

I just watched the interview, motivated by the other thread (the eBay ordeal).

I have to say I found Mr. Qin a very nice person, very well prepared for the interview and with an honest face. His presence and effort in trying to communicate dignified his brand. I would easily have watched another 15-20 minutes of this interview. One question I wish Dave had asked is what is Siglent's plans to expand to other regions, specially South America.

Kudos to Dave for bringing Mr. Qin and I hope this type of video becomes a trend. It's things like this video that are making EEVBlog stablish itself as the most influential EE (in all levels from hobbist to pros) vlog and forum on the internet today.

Yolo, ya!

[bitwelder]

Kudos to Dave for bringing Mr. Qin

Besides, I'd be curious to know how this interview came about.
Was Dave asking to interview some Siglent staff, or was the event proposed by them?

In any case, thumbs up to Dave for this very interesting interview and to Mr. Eric Qin for making the effort and leave his business behind to go talk to that crazy ozzie blogger 

[pascal_sweden]

Did you ask the Siglent Founder and CEO about the plagiarism and the lawsuit in court?
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/were-siglent-and-atten-the-same-company-back-in-the-days/

Siglent Founder and CEO Eric Qin visited the EEVblog Lab and very kindly agreed to sit down a quick impromptu chat.
http://siglent.com/ens/