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Offline h1386343Topic starter

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2014, 02:58:40 pm »
Okay. All good comments and taken on board. Maybe this thread serves no further purpose? Thank you for the comments, Dave - I totally understand that you need a life and time with family and external activities. I do not condemn you - you are a marvellous and great contributor - one of THE VERY best on YouTube, in fact.

Please do not take my comments as attacks, they were not meant in that spirit, I was just wondering where you'd gone.

Take care mate. Thank you :)
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2014, 03:03:08 pm »
I am just concerned that your viewership could decline because of this

Not sure I understand this either.  I don't sit by on Monday's pressing refresh waiting for the next mailbag episode to hatch?  I subscribe to all various people that interest me, when I open YT new subscribed content automagically shows up at the top and I watch at my convenience.

It's the beauty of the internet, no schedule, watch/record/play etc when it fits your schedule.

Maybe you don't understand human behaviour in the respect of habits becoming part of all of our lives, then. You are one person in many billions, a huge percentage of whom use YouTube with great regularity, and these habits DO form, even if they don't happen to form for one solitary person (use cases are not formed around surveys taken with one person). Ask ANY well respected YouTube publisher who aims to publish regular (daily or weekly) episodes, and then ask YouTube themselves - their WHOLE business is based around these complex and subtle aspects of psychology - they know a lot better than you, with all respect.

It may be of benefit to your opinion on as to whether or not regular content is pubished, to read a very easy to understand article, published as a guide to creators, by YouTube themselves:

https://www.youtube.com/yt/playbook/uploads-and-activity.html
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2014, 03:09:20 pm »
YouTube with great regularity


Mmmm, of the 3-4 dozen channels (67 in actuality) I follow on YT, not a one is regular.  Stuff comes out when stuff comes out.

I do most of my YT watching in the AM while drinking coffee, does that count as regular?

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2014, 03:12:18 pm »
YouTube with great regularity


Mmmm, of the 3-4 dozen channels (67 in actuality) I follow on YT, not a one is regular.  Stuff comes out when stuff comes out.

I do most of my YT watching in the AM while drinking coffee, does that count as regular?

Your use case doesn't prove a single thing; there's a few more channels on YouTube than 67 - YouTube is not ALL professional publishers, and not ALL of them aim to achieve regular programming. Your point - if there is one - makes no sense. There are MANY MANY MANY MANY people uploading videos - it's a free-for-all, and I bet a tiny fraction of those people adhere to a regular schedule, either because they've never thought about it affecting their views, OR they don't take revenue from them, OR they are lazy/don't care.

Your drinking coffee in the AM whilst watching, seems regular, if that's what you say you do :)
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2014, 03:19:02 pm »
Your point - if there is one - makes no sense.

Considering most are electronics related, perhaps non-regular is regular?

You and Roland brothers by-chance?

Ha ha, ok, time to scoot out of here.    :phew:

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2014, 03:24:21 pm »
Your point - if there is one - makes no sense.

Considering most are electronics related, perhaps non-regular is regular?

You and Roland brothers by-chance?

Ha ha, ok, time to scoot out of here.    :phew:

Roland? Who on earth is Roland? ... Roland Guest? Rat? :D
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2014, 03:28:41 pm »
YouTube with great regularity


Mmmm, of the 3-4 dozen channels (67 in actuality) I follow on YT, not a one is regular.  Stuff comes out when stuff comes out.

I do most of my YT watching in the AM while drinking coffee, does that count as regular?

Your use case doesn't prove a single thing; there's a few more channels on YouTube than 67 - YouTube is not ALL professional publishers, and not ALL of them aim to achieve regular programming. Your point - if there is one - makes no sense. There are MANY MANY MANY MANY people uploading videos - it's a free-for-all, and I bet a tiny fraction of those people adhere to a regular schedule, either because they've never thought about it affecting their views, OR they don't take revenue from them, OR they are lazy/don't care.

Your drinking coffee in the AM whilst watching, seems regular, if that's what you say you do :)

h1386343 your points are lost on me.  Dave runs his channel as he wants.  Such is the power of being self employed.  Given his exponential growth in both his youtube channel and this forum, the data is clearly indicative that he has a successful approach.  **so successful that I believe he runs one of the most viewed engineering channels on Youtube.

Regular postings resulting in more viewers?  Perhaps, but then again that's his prerogative.  That's the beauty of self employment... he can put the "work-life" balance point where ever he wants, when ever he wants... very few people have that luxury! 

 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2014, 03:40:26 pm »
h1386343 what is your youtube channel which you referred to in an earlier post?
Thanks.

 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2014, 04:13:08 pm »
h1386343 what is your youtube channel which you referred to in an earlier post?
Thanks.

Sorry I cannot give that out, since it is a specialist channel and some content is classified. You have to know where to look... if you stumble across it and subscribe, that's a different matter. I don't see how my (non profit, irregular content) channel bears any relevance anyway - I see maybe you want to use my channel to build some kind of comparison counter-point, but sadly I am unable to divulge my channel name.

Cheerio.
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2014, 09:17:18 pm »
h1386343 what is your youtube channel which you referred to in an earlier post?
Thanks.

Sorry I cannot give that out, since it is a specialist channel and some content is classified. You have to know where to look... if you stumble across it and subscribe, that's a different matter. I don't see how my (non profit, irregular content) channel bears any relevance anyway - I see maybe you want to use my channel to build some kind of comparison counter-point, but sadly I am unable to divulge my channel name.

Cheerio.

Understood old chap. National security and all that. Never fear, I'm sure all this sensitive and confidential material will be safe - and regularly updated - on youtube.



 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2014, 10:51:52 pm »
h1386343 what is your youtube channel which you referred to in an earlier post?
Thanks.

Sorry I cannot give that out, since it is a specialist channel and some content is classified. You have to know where to look... if you stumble across it and subscribe, that's a different matter. I don't see how my (non profit, irregular content) channel bears any relevance anyway - I see maybe you want to use my channel to build some kind of comparison counter-point, but sadly I am unable to divulge my channel name.

Cheerio.

Understood old chap. National security and all that. Never fear, I'm sure all this sensitive and confidential material will be safe - and regularly updated - on youtube.

 :-DD Too bad they don't actually have an emoticon that rolls on the floor laughing his ass off.

Thanks for the laugh!
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2014, 11:36:21 pm »
h1386343 what is your youtube channel which you referred to in an earlier post?
Thanks.

Sorry I cannot give that out, since it is a specialist channel and some content is classified. You have to know where to look... if you stumble across it and subscribe, that's a different matter. I don't see how my (non profit, irregular content) channel bears any relevance anyway - I see maybe you want to use my channel to build some kind of comparison counter-point, but sadly I am unable to divulge my channel name.

Cheerio.

Understood old chap. National security and all that. Never fear, I'm sure all this sensitive and confidential material will be safe - and regularly updated - on youtube.

 :-DD Too bad they don't actually have an emoticon that rolls on the floor laughing his ass off.

Thanks for the laugh!

I take it you've never heard of a YouTube type H-DMAC10 account? Thought not. Google won't help with that either - trust me.
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2014, 12:02:17 am »

I take it you've never heard of a YouTube type H-DMAC10 account? Thought not. Google won't help with that either - trust me.

Then, good job at compromising security by saying that!

But of course confidential data belongs on the cloud because you know, no one can breach those servers ever.
And if it was secure then it wouldn't matter if you posted the link since only authenticated users could access it.

Not buying it.
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2014, 12:15:55 am »

I take it you've never heard of a YouTube type H-DMAC10 account? Thought not. Google won't help with that either - trust me.

Then, good job at compromising security by saying that!

But of course confidential data belongs on the cloud because you know, no one can breach those servers ever.
And if it was secure then it wouldn't matter if you posted the link since only authenticated users could access it.

Not buying it.

Nothing is "compromised" - each channel has a unique, random setup UUID from a crypto seed - I just told you the generic codename for the account, type which noone will ever admit to knowing, as only internal staff know about them.

It doesn't phase me what you "buy" or not, with respect - I don't need the approval of someone on a random forum. Then again, I keep forgetting that the internet is a very odd place, where everybody with a keyboard thinks they "know the answers" to all possible scenarios about any conceivable subject the human mind could dream up or read about... so I'll leave you to "not buy it", and bid you cheerio, and have a good one :)
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2014, 12:21:52 am »
That's ok, you are not the only one that doesn't need approval of someone on a random forum, like say Dave and this thread ;)
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2014, 12:22:44 am »
That's ok, you are not the only one that doesn't need approval of someone on a random forum, like say Dave and this thread ;)

Great. That's settled it then. Cheerio :)
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2014, 12:35:48 am »
That's ok, you are not the only one that doesn't need approval of someone on a random forum, like say Dave and this thread ;)

Great. That's settled it then. Cheerio :)

Sure that is settled, but:

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Sorry I cannot give that out, since it is a specialist channel and some content is classified. You have to know where to look... if you stumble across it and subscribe, that's a different matter.

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Nothing is "compromised" - each channel has a unique, random setup UUID from a crypto seed

It wouldn't be too hard to find the channels because a fixed seed even if it generates random UUIDs it does follow a sequence so anyone that stumbles on one of those and subscribes can not only find the seed but also the crypto algo. Edit: Specially since we now know it's just 32 hex characters plus maybe dashes

Plus letting "classified" information visible for someone that randomly finds it, doesn't sound that protected, unless they are classified ads ;)


Cheerio to you to.


 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2014, 12:38:59 am »
Oh, don't argue. "He", or "they" as the case may be, can't possibly be serious.

Google is your friend.
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2014, 12:44:12 am »
Yeah, like a hash based message authentication with MD5 or sha-1 wouldn't be hard to break to find the seed once you stumble on one of those UUIDs or really a hash :)

Even if they use triple DES encoding it would be a piece of cake.
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2014, 01:09:05 am »
You'll never know... never. Ever. :) Do you seriously think I wouldn't bluff you, on a public forum? My channel is not for your viewing - even this forum profile is a fake account - do you all think you're Sherlock Holmes, by any measure? LOL.
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2014, 01:17:21 am »
Your IP is logged by the server ;)

But I really don't care about your youtube content, and I have other things to do than to break your secret classified information ;)

Edit, hmm, Let's see you want Dave to add more content and you have hash based message authentication codes, I think i'm mistaken and they are not 32 length but just 16 length like youtube ads use, so yeah, they are "classified" ads after all and that's why you have interest on him adding more content.

Not worth a new post so edited this one instead ;)
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2014, 01:18:41 am »
Your IP is logged by the server ;)

Yeah, but he's behind seven proxies.
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2014, 01:19:29 am »
Maybe even Thor  :-DD
 

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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2014, 01:51:30 am »
Maybe you don't understand human behaviour in the respect of habits becoming part of all of our lives, then. You are one person in many billions, a huge percentage of whom use YouTube with great regularity, and these habits DO form, even if they don't happen to form for one solitary person (use cases are not formed around surveys taken with one person). Ask ANY well respected YouTube publisher who aims to publish regular (daily or weekly) episodes, and then ask YouTube themselves - their WHOLE business is based around these complex and subtle aspects of psychology - they know a lot better than you, with all respect.

But as I said, it's not as important as you might think.
Regular content is important (i.e weekly, twice weekly), but releasing a set video on a set day at a set time is not all that important in the scheme of things. This is measurable, and demonstrable across many hugely successful channels.
Yes Youtube do recommend it of course, but it's by no means any major part of why channels are successful.
The fact that some very successful youtubers make it part of their release routine, but not mean it's the reason for their success.
Very few people will unsubscribe because you aren't putting out enough stuff, or are a bit erratic, that's not how it works.
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Re: Is Dave on holiday on the moon?
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2014, 02:24:10 am »
Regular postings resulting in more viewers?  Perhaps, but then again that's his prerogative.

Regular videos do make a channel successful. But not necessarily because people will subscribe because of it. The vast majority of the reason why regular content makes a channel successful is because of how the Youtube ranking and search algorithm values channels who put out more frequent content. Hence you get ranked higher in searches, and your other videos get ranked higher, and so on it goes as a snowball effect.
And that is the secret sauce to youtube success. h1386343 is grossly overstating how important scheduled programming is.
Yes, releasing a video at a certain time in a certain time zone (where your majority audience is) can get extra views faster, and that helps with the ranking algorithm too, but it's not a big part.
In fact, unless your vast majority audience is in one time zone, you can say it's pretty insignificant.
As for my audience, my biggest audience (the US) is still only 20% of my total audience. And they are spread over a big time zone anyway.

In 5 1/2 years doing this I don't think I've failed to put out at least 1 video every week. In fact my average is 3 videos a week over those 5+ years.
If I take a week off and don't produce a video, it will practically have zero effect on my subscriber base.
 


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