and no, they dont compare to "real" probes. the cables are stiffer, and more plasticy. both the main cable and the ground clip. (and no, by no means did i think i was actually getting hp probes from the title, i was looking for cheap chinese crap) teh bnc connector looked like a crappy cast pice with equally crappy chrome plating on it, not machined looking like my "real" probes. so yes, its just not an opinion, there are better and worse probes. im not going to do any actual performance testing on them to comapre then, because i really dont care. again, theyre only going to get thrown in a toolbox to use with a handleld scopemeter, its nothing id be proud to display on my bench.