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Offline floobydustTopic starter

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DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« on: May 15, 2024, 04:33:38 am »
DigiKey stupid bot check!  :rant:
"At DigiKey, we're big fans of Robots." "Our website, however, is still just for humans. Please click and hold the button below to verify you are one."

I want 10 seconds of my life back and sore finger EVERYTIME it shows up. My lawyer bills out well over $1 for that 10 seconds of nothing! A terrible website, still.
You have dozens of analytics companies that know my IP address yet seem to have no idea that I'm not a bot.

Oh look Mouser doesn't have this stupid press and hold crap. A bot can surely "press and hold" anyway?
 

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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2024, 05:41:55 am »
Mouser has captcha too. I use VPN and it triggers the captcha a lot. Mouser uses the sliding puzzle piece one.

Just went there and searched for a random part number - got to see a beautiful picture.

No idea how it is supposed to work. This seems trivial for a computer to solve.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2024, 05:44:51 am by ataradov »
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2024, 07:38:52 am »
No idea how it is supposed to work. This seems trivial for a computer to solve.
Solve it like a computer perfectly straight lines of movement and immediate attention and it'll notice, solve it like a human with wiggly movement and some thinking time and it lets you though.

Better than the aggressive reCAPTCHA tests that if you solve it quickly come back with n more questions until you've done "sufficient" work for google.
 
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2024, 09:38:51 am »
Shooting yourself in the foot and losing customers is fashionable now...  :)

I think the simple solution is to update the date in the cookies so that the last captcha check is always fresh.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2024, 09:39:25 am »
It's because web development today is done by clowns. Also, we changed your completely functional website now, and it's a lot of white space, less info for the screen. But at least it renders on a phone now, that nobody uses.
 
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2024, 09:53:35 am »
It's because web development today is done by clowns. Also, we changed your completely functional website now, and it's a lot of white space, less info for the screen. But at least it renders on a phone now, that nobody uses.

This is because they are young and have never seen the WinNT (XP classic) interface - compact, intuitive, businesslike and convenient.  :)
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2024, 01:12:37 pm »
Glad I'm not the only one who can use a computer well enough I get confused for a robot constantly.

There are businesses/sites I don't use anymore due to this constant captcha crap. Like I don't buy car parts without looking them up first, can't look anything up at Oreilly without constant captchas, so screw em, one of the other big ones in town gets the money.

Making me work to do business because someone else's security sucks is a surefire way to piss me off, if I want to play games I have a large collection of better ones. Besides, didn't pushing buttons all day for someone else used to come with a paycheck? Where's my money for all this work we're doing? I want at least a dollar per interruption.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2024, 01:18:24 pm »
Glad I'm not the only one who can use a computer well enough I get confused for a robot constantly.

There are businesses/sites I don't use anymore due to this constant captcha crap. Like I don't buy car parts without looking them up first, can't look anything up at Oreilly without constant captchas, so screw em, one of the other big ones in town gets the money.

Making me work to do business because someone else's security sucks is a surefire way to piss me off, if I want to play games I have a large collection of better ones. Besides, didn't pushing buttons all day for someone else under to come with a paycheck? Where's my money for all this work we're doing? I want at least a dollar per interruption.

They are excited that someone will use the information for free - they are greedy.  :)
If you visit to Chinese sites, especially video hosting - there is complete paranoia with captchas.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2024, 01:56:30 pm »
Solve it like a computer perfectly straight lines of movement and immediate attention and it'll notice, solve it like a human with wiggly movement and some thinking time and it lets you though.
Well, obviously the solver should add randomness to the movement. Don't even need to do anything smart, just record a few different movement patterns and use those as a solution.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2024, 07:25:49 pm »
With such a primitive test "press and hold", I think it's just a money parasite for their website developers to enable.
What will a bot do anyway at DigiKey's website?  Scrape pricing and stock info, for some other distributor to give us a better deal? DDoS attack the 555 timer product page?

Is DigiKey putting any money into their website's customer experience?
I tried looking for a linear voltage regulator and choosing 3.3V output was a nightmare of shit picklists. They are full of stupid.
Any bots roaming that will just get poisoned... oh wait that's their website strategy.  A poison pill for AI and bots.
 
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2024, 09:40:26 pm »
Many sales sites use anti-bot measures, aliexpress, taobao, ebay, etc. Plenty of reasons to do so: account hijacks, ddos, payment fraud, hacking, maybe scraping if it slows down the site.

Ranting about conspiracies here will have no impact, either stop using digikey, or tell them you are disappointed with the web experience using the feedback button.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2024, 07:55:26 am »
Ranting about conspiracies here will have no impact, either stop using digikey, or tell them you are disappointed with the web experience using the feedback button.

I think people have the right and the inclination to share their thoughts with each other.
Just give an opinion and listen to something else. Just to talk about problems, etc.
Maybe this is inefficient, but these are normal people, they are not files that need to be distributed strictly according to the algorithm.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2024, 11:24:03 am »
You can always get a bot to solve the captcha for you and save some time
https://github.com/dessant/buster

One can dream that one day all those sites will realize captchas are obsolete.
 
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2024, 02:21:23 am »
It's because web development today is done by clowns. Also, we changed your completely functional website now, and it's a lot of white space, less info for the screen. But at least it renders on a phone now, that nobody uses.

This is because they are young and have never seen the WinNT (XP classic) interface - compact, intuitive, businesslike and convenient.  :)
Um, NT 3.51 - fast and crisp, could minimize anything out of the way - no "task bars". And yes, I yell at people to get off my lawn too.
 
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2024, 10:58:12 am »
It's because web development today is done by clowns. Also, we changed your completely functional website now, and it's a lot of white space, less info for the screen. But at least it renders on a phone now, that nobody uses.

... and the little info that is shown is trapped in a tiny window in the middle of the browser's window
... with scrollbars so that you can see the useful stuff "hidden underneath" all that whitespace
... so that you can't see the part number column and the data column at the same time, and have to scroll horizontally until you are seasick
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2024, 11:08:06 am »
It's because web development today is done by clowns. Also, we changed your completely functional website now, and it's a lot of white space, less info for the screen. But at least it renders on a phone now, that nobody uses.

... and the little info that is shown is trapped in a tiny window in the middle of the browser's window
... with scrollbars so that you can see the useful stuff "hidden underneath" all that whitespace
... so that you can't see the part number column and the data column at the same time, and have to scroll horizontally until you are seasick

We are outraged and surprised. But why is this happening?
Why do people appear who are cut off from life, who do not understand how bad their work is?
Why did people have a concept of convenience and harmony 20-30 years ago, and now there are terrible incompetents on the stage?
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2024, 10:54:58 pm »
Why did people have a concept of convenience and harmony 20-30 years ago, and now there are terrible incompetents on the stage?

Because software development has been widely democratized in the past 20 years and quantity became more important than quality.
 

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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2024, 12:43:13 am »
Digi-Key did get back to me saying the repeating bot test was due to my "old browser". Yet the problem was fixed afterwards with no change to my browser  :-//

The web developers don't know anything about electronic components, and their management seems uninterested in making the website better.
In the end, everybody appears busy and takes home a paycheque.

Sometimes I see improvements, but no - I just tried choosing a voltage in picklist search-filter for linear Vreg.
Type in "5V" and everything containing a "5V" shows up like "-19.5V" or "3.3V, 2.5V, 2.63V" FFS  :palm:
Website still considers it a text string most of the time. Sigh. After all these years, EE's can't enter a number to the Digi-Key website without Idiocracy happening.

For fun, tried to buy 2032 lithium coin cells. There supposedly are issues shipping lithium batteries - but the US has a small cell exemption they seem to be bungling. No CR2032 is blowing up or burning anything, ever.
Search results gave me marketplace-only listed "Jaunch America" and $41 shipping and "This product is unavailable in your selected currency."
Why the currency error message?  Change to $USD and it's $30 shipping for the $0.35 battery, hilarious.
This is no fewer than 4 website errors. Sigh.
 

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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2024, 12:48:07 am »
This has to be some evil combination of non-US country and marketplace making the results even worse than normal (and I love DigiKey).

I searched for CR1632 and got a reasonable result.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2024, 12:56:41 am »
Marketplace is crap. This is not that different than just buying from Amazon, stuff is shipped by random no name companies that paid DK to list their items. They claim to vet their vendors in the marketing text, yet actual legal text lets them do whatever.

But they must make a ton of money on this if they are willing to significantly crapify their site for that.

The second result is the item actually shipped by DK from their warehouse.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2024, 07:22:44 pm »
Marketplace is crap.
Agree. Personally, I start my DigiKey search by setting 'Product Status' to 'Active', checking 'Stocking option'/'In stock' and 'Marketplace product'/'Exclude'.
 

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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 01:38:37 am »
Sub-branding - putting no-name vendors underneath the trusted DigiKey brand name, seems dodgy.
I've never bought from marketplace sellers - either their pricing is ridiculous or where they ship from some planet far away or they sound like a street person.
"*Marketplace products are not included in DigiKey's free shipping calculations as they ship separately from the vendor."
If I want cheap, high risk parts for hobby stuff I'll buy direct with no middleman. Got a reel of diodes from Shenzhen booth 1/10 the price. They work fine.

Canada CR2032 only shows marketplace "Jaunch America", but "unavailable in your selected currency". No sign of Energizer, Duracell, Panasonic etc.
What was the point again of this garbage listing you can't actually buy? So the Marketplace is not only random quality but also junky listings.
How hard is it to properly put the restricted shipping tag on their website item, or 'ships via ground only' (but not in America...) whatever the excuse is, this is basic e-commerce.
 

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« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 10:06:26 am »
With it being so easy to just run a script to search sites you end up with a large number of website hits not being actual customers but a whole load of people tying up resources.

My gallery has been hammered recently, by AI bots after images for the algorithms and by a subset trying to take down my site so that they can hack the local parish website on the same server. Since banning a whole bunch of bots I managed to get the data transfered to drop by 1TB. The problem was that many were using AWS, and even Facebook IP addresses to bombard my websites, its the API access.

So on one hand I can see why some sites need to put in place some sort of challenge system. On the other side I guess it stops someone putting a site together that gathers prices etc so you can compare sites.
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Re: DigiKey - Access to this page has been denied
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:21:35 pm »
Every character typed, every mouse click - gets sent to the many analytics sites in real time. Look at the Javascript.
If I type a part name (say 10 characters) and then backspace to correct a spelling mistake (5 back, 5 new), I've seen the website flip out and think you are a bot for "too many search requests". Then you get the boot, once I got banned lol.
The search box must get bots scraping the autofill results or something.
 
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