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How do you pronounce soldering?

Souldering
15 (8.9%)
Soldering
98 (58.3%)
Saudering
55 (32.7%)

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Offline TimFox

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Re: Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
« Reply #175 on: November 17, 2023, 07:44:54 pm »
Anders Celsius (1701 to 1744) invented the only thermometer that had 0 at boiling, and 100 at freezing.
Many thought it a misnomer to re-name the Centigrade scale (0 at freezing and 100 at boiling), but it conserved the letter "C".
https://www.astro.uu.se/history/Celsius_eng.html
For personal comfort purposes, the 0 to 100 range on a Fahrenheit (spelled correctly) thermometer is a better match to human biology than is 0 to 100 Celsius.
Many years ago, when I turned 32, I started converting my age to Celsius.  A few years after that, I started converting it to degrees Réaumur (q.v.), but now I convert it to radians.
 

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Re: Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
« Reply #176 on: November 17, 2023, 07:45:36 pm »
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy...

So let's stop right here - you think calorie is an SI unit? I have bad news for you - you have totally proved the opposite. In fact it's those imperial units that try to be more concretely related to everyday things (sometimes successfully, sometimes not), which is exactly why you picked this non-SI calorie heresy - you felt it's useful. This is also why they are popular.

The real argument for SI units is not that the value of one unit is somehow more concrete, because it usually isn't - it's that when you start to calculate something a bit more complex, then you don't need to apply conversion factors all the time.
 

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Re: Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
« Reply #177 on: November 17, 2023, 08:19:03 pm »
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade

And in the Imperial system, 1 gallon of water weighs 10 lb, and requires 10 Btu to heat it up by 1°F. Every system has its reasons. People don't just make things up arbitrarily.

The real challenge with traditional systems and science is that the mechanical equivalent of heat was only discovered around 1850, and traditional measurement systems were in existence long before that. As a result, energy units like Btu and ft-lbf were always going to be misaligned.

 

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Re: Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
« Reply #178 on: November 18, 2023, 02:56:54 pm »
Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
I remember my Science teacher explaining how each system was made, he always freaked out about Imperial units, specially if anything or anyone called out the Farenheits!
- 0 Celsius is where pure water frozens, 100ºC where it boils, under 1atm pressure.
- 0 Kelvin is the absolute "cold" in physics.
- While we had all those rational units, Sir Farenheit put a bucket of water to boil somewhere in the woods, while drunk as f***, went to a nearby tree to take a piss and shouted, "Fuck yeah, I'll call it 212ºF!!".
   Then he came back to civilization just like Moses and the ten commandments! And for some damn reason everyone decided it was OK to adopt it without questioning anything!
   (He usually came with new ideas about how Sir Farenheit might have gotten into it :-DD)

Ahh that guy was crazy, but funny as hell!
In my mind the difference in Fahrenheit and Centigrade is arbitrary. I don't know of any calculations or conversions which are easier with one system, than the other. Kelvin is easier, because it doesn't involve negative numbers, but the same is true of the Rankine scale.
 
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Re: Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
« Reply #179 on: November 19, 2023, 02:56:30 pm »
Until the advent of Youtube I was completely unaware that Americans pronounced soldering incorrectly ;D
And indeed, since we aren’t pronouncing it incorrectly*, you can simply consider your pre-YouTube knowledge to be OK.

*because different ≠ incorrect
 
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