I find it always a bit lame to make fun of other people, while I see quite some gear snobs buying overpriced gear on this forum as well.
Show me a $5000 hand held multimeter with the same specs as a $50 meter and I'll concede your point.
The difference is huge. Many engineers don't mind buying more expensive test gear that has say a bandwidth they might never use, or better build quality etc, and that's fine. But what they don't do is claim that their $5000 instrument with the same specs can measure things the $50 instrument can't. That's what Audiophools claim, and it's why we are justified in laughing at them.Not gonna go into a debate with that, because it's gonna be an endless story.
Even if what people believe isn't totally completely according to science, just respect them.
Even if what people believe isn't totally completely according to science, just respect them.
Respect them? Why on earth should anyone "respect" someone for believe utter nonsense?
I'll fight for their right to believe anything they want, but I damn sure won't respect them for it.
I find it always a bit lame to make fun of other people, while I see quite some gear snobs buying overpriced gear on this forum as well.
Show me a $5000 hand held multimeter with the same specs as a $50 meter and I'll concede your point.
The difference is huge. Many engineers don't mind buying more expensive test gear that has say a bandwidth they might never use, or better build quality etc, and that's fine. But what they don't do is claim that their $5000 instrument with the same specs can measure things the $50 instrument can't. That's what Audiophools claim, and it's why we are justified in laughing at them.Not gonna go into a debate with that, because it's gonna be an endless story.
You aren't going to do that because you can't.
The same reason why no one ever claimed the James Randi $1M prize for audiophool cables, because the claims are bullshit.
Go on, amaze us how say an expensive audiophool speaker cable that has the exact same electrical parameters as a cheap equivalent twin flex can make any difference.
Or how an audiophool mains cable can "sound" any different to the same electrical equivalent hardware store mains cable.QuoteEven if what people believe isn't totally completely according to science, just respect them.
Respect them? Why on earth should anyone "respect" someone for believe utter nonsense?
I'll fight for their right to believe anything they want, but I damn sure won't respect them for it.
Look, I've got no problem with paying more money for good quality audio gear that can make a demonstrable difference in performance and/or build quality (for reliability etc), but when you start claiming anti-science anti-engineering utter nonsense then expect to be called out for it and laughed at.
Not saying I don't agree with you (because overly expensive audio gear also makes me cringe) but laughing at people because in your opinion it sounds silly is extremely lame and lacking of any kind of respect.
What is the next step, religions and cultures
You should respect me and my statement that "1+2*3=9" [2]
[2] Far too many people, including teachers, believe that is true.
You should respect me and my statement that "1+2*3=9" [2]
[2] Far too many people, including teachers, believe that is true.
It'll be too hard if we put in the brackets and we believe not everyone wants or needs to know apart from the very few who are able and want to do it. It is very hard and difficult to explain what they mean when they are in their early stages and it is time consuming for us. It is not an economical and cost effective modern teaching method for the mass majority. We can make equivalently good students if they follow a set of strict instructions set by us like the above and everything will be just fine. If they can't do it we demote them to an easier set of instructions so they won't fail. It is a program after all.
This year you only needed 17% to pass maths at the state schools despite it being "toughened up".
What is all that meant to mean?
You should respect me and my statement that "1+(2*3)=9" [2]
What is all that meant to mean?
What is all that meant to mean?
You should respect me and my statement that "1+(2*3)=9" [2]
No brackets were put in there to read it any differently but I normally go the first way around.
Just one of my jokes on the language I hear from those who want to make things easier in a way.What is all that meant to mean?Source:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/08/24/passing-exam-has-never-easier-just-15-per-cent-required-pass/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6072741/The-tough-new-GCSE-needs-just-17-score-C.html
I know someone who is a retired maths teacher that I still do some work for.
He teaches privately now and he told me about that and then I heard it in the news.
Normally I don't believe the news but he said they lowered the standard and that all his students passed way above what he expected this year.
I suppose every area is different.
Just my sarcasm.
I am just interested in how they got taken in by the claims on those cables and stuff unless they have got superior hearing I would like to see hearing tests.
Daily Wail. I like that.
Sorry silly me I mistype things or say them wrong and don't notice until after despite using the preview button.
Anyway I'll check twice before posting.
I was obviously talking about overly expensive gear not overly expensive cables.
I am not gonna go any further with this.
Not saying I don't agree with you (because overly expensive audio gear also makes me cringe) but laughing at people because in your opinion it sounds silly is extremely lame and lacking of any kind of respect.
What is the next step, religions and cultures
Since that is basically the same ballpark.
“This is a custom made system that we designed and made ourselves from scratch.”
I was obviously talking about overly expensive gear not overly expensive cables.
You implied that buying expensive test gear is like expensive audio products. When you are talking about "audiophool" products, it's not.QuoteI am not gonna go any further with this.
Not saying I don't agree with you (because overly expensive audio gear also makes me cringe) but laughing at people because in your opinion it sounds silly is extremely lame and lacking of any kind of respect.
Respect is earned, not just given.
And it's not "in my opinion", audiophool products are demonstrably bullshit, and you can use basic scientific testing and engineering knowledge to prove that.QuoteWhat is the next step, religions and cultures
Since that is basically the same ballpark.
Correct, religion is the same BS, because there is zero demonstrable evidence, and you get hit with the same "you must respect my belief" rubbish.
So we should totally hippie love all over people who's "little quark" is to try to scam 250K for a Chinesium POS that could potentially void your insurance and set your house on fire?
Ok, so my "little quark" will be to sell you 10K "audio grade" power supplies, as is, then not fuse them or tell you the (very large) capacitors are backwards. No refunds or returns.
So we should totally hippie love all over people who's "little quark" is to try to scam 250K for a Chinesium POS that could potentially void your insurance and set your house on fire?
Ok, so my "little quark" will be to sell you 10K "audio grade" power supplies, as is, then not fuse them or tell you the (very large) capacitors are backwards. No refunds or returns.Well first of all, learn to read, because I very clearly said that I understand it when it's about debunking products or companies.
But debunking and coming with evidence and keeping it objective is very different than ridiculing people.
And for the record, if we are talking about religions (I am not religious myself), prove me evidence that god DOESN'T exist.
answer: you can't
longer answer: you can only prove that certain chapters or explanations from bibles etc aren't correct according evidence, but that still doesn't prove god doesn't exist.
If you understand anything about science, you know that conclusions are always based on statistics. By definition that means that there is not only a margin of error, but also a change that the conclusions don't even work.
And for the record, if we are talking about religions (I am not religious myself), prove me evidence that god DOESN'T exist.
A religious person believes in god, a atheist believes in that fact that there isn't a god and agnostic doesn't believe but basis his opinions on scientific evidence.
So you don't mind it at all if we start to tear apart all your personal quirks and laugh about it in public?
Because I have seen many of your choices that aren't totally "scientifically logic" at all (as if that is the only and best way humans and nature works )
In addition make fun of how you were raised, you family, your children, your sexuality, your home country, the way you talk and just laugh at you in front of your face?
I find that VERY VERY difficult to believe Dave. Because those are pretty much the same things as what's going on in this topic.
The fact that you find something dumb and stupid doesn't give anyone the right to discriminate
Yes you may have an opinion about it, you may discuss it but just to ridicule and making fun of people in public (forum) is a whole different story.
And for the record, if we are talking about religions (I am not religious myself), prove me evidence that god DOESN'T exist.
So a real scientist will be agnostic, and can only say something about a certain likeliness.
A religious person believes in god, a atheist believes in that fact that there isn't a god and agnostic doesn't believe but basis his opinions on scientific evidence.