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PCB/EDA software list
« on: June 07, 2011, 02:16:15 pm »
Hi all,
I was looking for PCB software to test and eventually use. This is the list of suppliers I ended up with. Please add what's missing and correct mistakes.


Free/Open source
CircuitMaker (Altium) - http://www.circuitmaker.com/
DesignSpark (RS comp) - http://www.designspark.com/
EasyEDA - http://easyEDA.com/editor (web based)
FreePCB - http://www.freepcb.com/
Fritzing - http://fritzing.org/
gEDA - http://www.geda-project.org/
KiCAD - http://kicad-pcb.org/
Minimal Board Editor - http://www.suigyodo.com/online/e/index.htm (English, Japanese)
Open Circuit Design - http://opencircuitdesign.com/
Orcad DOS (old) - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/OldDosOrcad/
OrCAD Lite (Cadence) - http://www.orcad.com/products/orcad-lite-overview
PCB Elegance - http://www.pcbelegance.com/
PCBWeb Designer - http://www.pcbweb.com/ (Windows only)
Protel (Altium) AutoTrax/EasyTrax (DOS Based) - http://www.altium.com/community/downloads/en/downloads_home.cfm
TCI - http://b.urbani.free.fr/ (French)
ZenitPCB - http://www.zenitpcb.com/Index.html

Limited free version
CADint - http://www.cadint.se/p_free.asp
Cadstar Express (Zuken) - http://www.zuken.com/products/cadstar/downloads/express.aspx
CometCAD - http://www.cometcad.com/
DipTrace - http://www.diptrace.com/
Eagle (Autodesk) - http://www.autodesk.com/products/eagle/overview
Layo1 PCB - http://www.baas.nl/layo1pcb/uk/downloads.htm
McCAD - http://www.mccad.com/index.html
OrCad (Cadence) - http://www.orcad.com
Osmond PCB - http://www.osmondpcb.com/index.html (Only PCB)
TopoR - http://eda.eremex.com/
WinQcad - http://www.winqcad.com/

Commercial
Allegro (Cadence) - http://www.cadence.com/products/pcb/Pages/default.aspx
Altium - http://www.altium.com/
Ariadne - http://www.cad-ul.de/ariadne-eda.html (German)
AutoTRAX DEX 2020 - http://www.dex2020.com, https://kov.com/
Bartels AutoEngineer - http://www.bartels.de/bae/bae_en.htm (English, German)
BoardMaker3 - http://www.tsien.info/index.php#
Board Station (Mentor) - http://www.mentor.com/products/pcb-system-design/design-flows/boardstation/
CADint - http://www.cadint.se/products.asp
Cadstar (Zuken) - http://www.zuken.com/products/cadstar
CIRCAD - http://www.holophase.com/index.html
CircuitCREATOR - http://www.circuitcreator.com/creator/index.htm
Circuit Studio (Altium) - http://www.circuitstudio.com/
Circuit Wizard, PCB wizard - http://www.new-wave-concepts.com/products.html
CometCAD - http://www.cometcad.com/
CSiEDA - http://www.csieda.co.jp/en/csieda/ (Japanese, English)
DipTrace - http://www.diptrace.com/
Douglas CAD/CAM - http://www.douglas.com/software/pro/prolayout.html
Dreamcad - http://www13.ocn.ne.jp/~dreamnet/ (Japanese)
Eagle (Autodesk) - http://www.autodesk.com/products/eagle/overview
Easy-PC - http://www.numberone.com/easypc.asp
EDWinXP - http://www.visionics.a.se/index.html
Expedition Enterprise (Mentor) - http://www.mentor.com/products/pcb-system-design/design-flows/expedition-enterprise/
ICADPCB (Fujitsu) - http://www.fujitsu.com/my/services/software/business/icad_thirdpage.html
Layo1 PCB - http://www.baas.nl/layo1pcb/uk/index.html
McCAD - http://www.mccad.com/index.html
OrCAD (Cadence) - http://www.orcad.com/
Osmond PCB - http://www.osmondpcb.com/index.html (Only PCB)
Pads (Mentor) - http://www.mentor.com/products/pcb-system-design/design-flows/pads/
Pantheon PCB software (Intercept) - http://www.intercept.com/products/pantheon-pcb-design
PollEx PCB/Polliwog - http://www.polliwogeda.com/xe_new/
Proteus PCB Design - http://www.labcenter.com/products/pcb_overview.cfm
Pulsonix - http://pulsonix.com/index.asp
Quadcept - https://www.quadcept.com/en/index.html
Rimu Schematics/PCB - http://www.hutson.co.nz/
Scooter PCB - http://www.scooter-pcb.de/scooter-pcb/index.html (German)
Sprint-Layout - http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html
SuperCAD/SuperPCB - http://www.mentala.com/products.htm
Target 3001 - http://www.ibfriedrich.com/ (English, German, French)
TINA (DesignSoft) - http://www.tina.com
TopoR - http://eda.eremex.com/
Ultiboard (National Instruments) - http://www.ni.com/ultiboard/
Upverter - https://upverter.com/ (free for open source projects)
Vutrax - http://www.vutrax.co.uk/index.htm
WinCircuit - http://alain.michel13.free.fr/Anglais.html
WinQcad - http://www.winqcad.com/
XL designer (Seetrax) - http://www.xldesigner.com/
Zuken - http://www.zuken.com/en

Free SW for PCB order service (no gerber files export)
ECAD Pro - http://www.pcbdesignandfab.com/ (gerber files $25/board)
ExpressPCB - http://www.expresspcb.com/
Pad 2 Pad - http://www.pad2pad.com
PCB123 - http://www.sunstone.com/PCB123-CAD-Software.aspx (gerber files $100/board)
PCB Artist - http://www.4pcb.com/free-pcb-layout-software/
Target 3001 (PCB Pool edition) - http://www.pcb-pool.com/ppuk/service_downloads.html (gerber with proto)

Schematic Capture
sPlan - http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/splan.html
TinyCAD - http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tinycad/index.php?title=TinyCAD
XCircuit - http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/

Gerber tools
3D Gerber Viewer (online) - http://mayhewlabs.com/3dpcb
Circuit people online Gerber viewer - http://circuitpeople.com/
DFM Now! - http://www.numericalinnovations.com/pages/dfm-now-free-gerber-viewer
GCPrevue (Graphicode) - http://www.graphicode.com/Download_GC-Prevue_and_Free_Trials
GerberLogix - http://www.easylogix.de/products_detail.php?prog_id=1
gerbv - http://gerbv.sourceforge.net/
McCAD - http://www.mccad.com/FREE_GerberViewer.html
Online Gerber-Viewer - http://www.gerber-viewer.com/
Tracespace - http://viewer.tracespace.io/ (online viewer)
ViewMate - http://www.pentalogix.com/viewmate.php (Free & Commercial versions)
Viewplot - http://www.viewplot.com/
ZofzPCB 3D Gerber Viewer - http://www.zofzpcb.com/

PCB panelizing
CAM 350 - http://www.downstreamtech.com/CAM350XL.html
FAB 3000 - http://www.numericalinnovations.com/fab3000.html

Stripboard/Veroboard layout tools
DIY Layout Creator - http://diy-fever.com/software/
LochMaster - http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/lochmaster.html
Stripboard Designer - http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/Misc__Graphics_Tools/StripBoard_Designer.html
Stripboard Magic - http://www.marlwifi.org.nz/other/stripboard-magic
Stripes - http://sites.google.com/site/libby8dev/stripes
VeeCAD - http://veecad.com/
VeroCAD - http://xtronic.org/download/verocad-3-veroboard/
VeroDes - http://www.heyrick.co.uk/software/verodes/

Simulation - Free
5Spice - http://www.5spice.com/ (not free for commercial use)
Cider - http://embedded.eecs.berkeley.edu/pubs/downloads/cider/index.htm
CircuitLab.com - https://www.circuitlab.com/ (Online only)
Circuit Simulator Applet - http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ (iPad/iPhone version available, iCircuit - NOT FREE)
Logisim - http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/
LTpsiceIV (Linear Technology) - http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/
Mindi (Microchip) - http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en537206
Ngspice - http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/screens.html
Qucs - http://qucs.sourceforge.net/
SimOne - http://eda.eremex.com/ (limited)
Systemvision - https://www.systemvision.com/ (cloud)
TINA-TI (Texas Instruments version) - http://www.ti.com/tool/tina-ti
XSPICE - http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mrichard/Xspice/

Simulation - Commercial
Advanced Design System, ADS (Keysight) - http://www.keysight.com/en/pc-1297113/advanced-design-system-ads?nid=-34346.0&cc=US&lc=eng
AIM Spice - http://www.aimspice.com/
B2 Spice (Beige Bag) - http://www.beigebag.com/
Circuit Wizard - http://www.new-wave-concepts.com/products.html
EveryCircuit - http://everycircuit.com/ (online or app. limited free usage available)
ICAP/4, etc.. - http://www.intusoft.com/default.htm (Limited Free version available)
Micro Cap - http://www.spectrum-soft.com/index.shtm (Limited Free version available)
NI Multisim (National Instruments) - http://www.ni.com/multisim/
NL5 Circuit Simulator - http://nl5.sidelinesoft.com/
PartSim - http://www.partsim.com/ (online)
Plecs - http://www.plexim.com/
PSpice (Cadence) - http://www.cadence.com/products/orcad/pspice_simulation/pages/default.aspx (Limited Free version available)
SIMetrix - http://www.simetrix.co.uk/ (demo available)
Super Spice (Anasoft) - http://www.anasoft.co.uk/ (Limited Free version available)
TINA - http://www.tina.com/English/tina/start.php
TopSpice - http://penzar.com/topspice/topspice.htm (Limited Free version available)
Via Designer - http://www.viadesigner.com/
WinSpice - http://www.winspice.com/

Other
Openboardview, PCB viewer - http://openboardview.org/
Front panel: Frontdesigner - http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/frontdesigner.html
Front panel: Front Panel Express - http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/index.html
CAD: DraftSight - http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/overview/
CAD: Free CAD - http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/
VLSI Design: http://www.staticfreesoft.com/index.html
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Offline ngkee22

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 04:29:02 pm »
There was a really simple Pspice program I used in college, but I can't remember the name or the website at the moment.  I will look it up to add to your free list.  It was simple and worked well.

I was also told about a program called b2spice, http://www.beigebag.com.  I believe there is a free version of it too.  A friend of mine likes this one, I think the university he went to recommended it.
 

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 05:07:35 pm »
Addition to "Free SW for PCB order service (no gerber files export)"
PCB-Pool offer a free package "Target 3001" - you get gerbers if you order protos
http://www.pcb-pool.com/ppuk/service_downloads.html
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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 06:56:04 pm »
There was a really simple Pspice program I used in college, but I can't remember the name or the website at the moment. 

Maybe PSpice?  ;) Today with Cadence, under their OrCAD brand (once a separate company)

http://www.cadence.com/products/orcad/pspice_simulation/pages/default.aspx

In general there is really no shortage of, typically commercial, SPICE versions.

A quick google reveals

http://www.aimspice.com/
http://www.winspice.com/
http://penzar.com/topspice/topspice.htm
http://www.kemet.com/kemet/web/homepage/kechome.nsf/weben/kemsoft
http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mrichard/Xspice/
http://www.spectrum-soft.com/demo.shtm
http://embedded.eecs.berkeley.edu/pubs/downloads/cider/index.htm
http://www.anasoft.co.uk/
http://www.intusoft.com/icap.htm#isspice4
http://www.ni.com/multisim/

And that is maybe just 1/10th of what is available.


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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 07:14:44 pm »
It was named PSpice.  I thought it was now part of Cadence, but I couldn't remember for sure.
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 01:07:44 am »
I updated the list with the suggestions.

I wasn't looking for simulation SW when compiling the list so therefore it isn't that many there.

And if someone have any better head line for the "Free SW for PCB order service (no gerber files export)" it would be great! I don't know what that type of business is called. (I'm not native English speaker, and getting worse by living in Asia for long time.. :-[ )
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 03:36:55 am »
Awesome list!
I've made it a sticky topic, so will always be at the top of the list.
 

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 10:35:54 pm »
Mindi and Logisim to be added to free simulators.
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 02:27:52 pm »
Great! Added.

Mindi and Logisim to be added to free simulators.
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 11:38:54 pm »
Hi,
impressive List.

Here another two commercial Programms i know, limited Demoverions available:
Ariadne http://www.cad-ul.de
Bartels AutoEngineer http://www.bartels.de
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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 04:17:32 am »
Added;
Here another two commercial Programms i know, limited Demoverions available:
Ariadne http://www.cad-ul.de
Bartels AutoEngineer http://www.bartels.de
I also added some more. It's amazing how many there are available! And all of them are "the easiest", ''world best", "most cost effective", "fastest to market", etc., etc. Hard to believe there is a real market for all of them.. 
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 01:16:29 pm »
Nice list. I just wanted to tell you guys that I can give some basic to semi-advanced help regarding general usage of Zuken Cadstar in case anyone wants to use it.

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 04:22:54 am »
I regularly use Rimu Schematic/PCB. These are low cost commercial packages with demos available.

http://www.hutson.co.nz/

The advantage is that Rimu PCB has excellent polygon and shape support so if you are doing allot of precise positioning of weird copper areas such as microstrip shapes, its good for that. In addition if you have a really unusual PCB pattern you can write a PCB file with precise points in Protel Autotrax/Tango language using a text editor and import it directly.

I have found few packages with this flexibility. Most now store PCB files in binary format so you can't write your own or are undocumented.
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 04:48:57 am »
Added


And some more.. How many are there?!?  never ends  :)
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 11:22:39 pm »
not really general PCB but there is VeeCAD but its targeted at stripboard layout only

http://veecad.com/
 

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 11:43:34 pm »
As far as the Spice based simulators go I would add QUC's

qucs.sourceforge.net

Quc's is my current fav of the free ones but can be a bit slow. If you expand your list to RF linear/harmonic simulators it will explode.


 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 02:31:11 am »
Added both. I put the VeeCAD under a new header.
 

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 08:48:06 pm »
You could add Lochmaster as another Stripboard/Veroboard package

http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/lochmaster.html
 


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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 09:18:42 pm »
I think maybe you should also add pcb panelizing software to the list as quite a few of us submit whole panels rather than individual boards. The two I am familiar with are

CAM 350 (expensive)
http://www.downstreamtech.com/CAM350XL.html

FAB 3000
http://www.numericalinnovations.com/fab3000.html
 

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2011, 01:49:29 pm »
I think GCPrevue from Graphicode http://www.graphicode.com/Download_GC-Prevue_and_Free_Trials would be a good addition. It's free and I use it to verify my gerbers and drill data independently from my CAD software. I find it a good 'sanity' check!

Good to see Bartels on the list, I suspect I'm the only one here using it!
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2011, 08:07:28 pm »
Gerber Viewers are a good addition.

I use Viewplot
http://www.viewplot.com/

Also to the Spice simulators, I also use 5Spice
http://www.5spice.com/

 

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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 01:32:21 pm »
I use GC-Prevue, gerbv and GerberLogix.

gerbv
http://gerbv.sourceforge.net/

GerberLogix
http://www.easylogix.de/products_detail.php?prog_id=1

All of them are more or less "free" for personal use.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 04:47:52 am »
Finally I got some time over..

Added all the suggestions under different headlines.

I haven't the time to check all links so please help out with that.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2011, 05:00:39 am by elCap »
 

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2011, 02:52:19 pm »
A very useful tool for selecting commercially available resistors for a given calculated value is Resistor CAD. There was a DOS version of similar functionality but this one has a GUI. It also provides the error for the various combinations.

I managed to find it here:

http://www.circuitsonline.net/download/view/90
 

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2011, 03:01:26 pm »
A very useful tool for selecting commercially available resistors for a given calculated value is Resistor CAD. There was a DOS version of similar functionality but this one has a GUI. It also provides the error for the verious combinations.

For a bit more functionality (constraints on values) and customizable resistor value sets via text files, Resistor Optimizer is also an option.

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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2011, 03:16:44 pm »
Thats great Janne. It would be useful if it allowed you to select more than one series at the same time, say E24 and E96. However, one could create a custom resistor list and load that as a workaround. It's great that you can select specific values within the same series.
 

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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2011, 07:18:20 am »
I recently came across the PCB Matrix LP Calculator - you enter the part type, pin count, and dimensions from the datasheet for a part, and it gives you back a IPC-7351B pcb footprint. It takes all the guessing and math out of it, and makes it *damn* quick to make footprints for new parts (my most hated part of a project). :) PCB Matrix was absorbed into Mentor Graphics recently and the product stopped being available for free - but if you Google for "PCBM_LP_Calculator_V2010.zip" you can still find the last free version available for download in a number of places. I just tried uploading it to oldversion.com, so hopefully it'll appear there in the next couple of days.
 

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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 05:57:09 pm »
Here's two more free packages (albeit in french)

SDS (schematic capture) http://b.urbani.free.fr/pagesds/sds.htm

and

TCI (pcb layout) http://b.urbani.free.fr/pagetci/tci.htm
 

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« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2011, 12:59:21 am »
Speaking of Gerber viewers...

PentaLogix (http://www.pentalogix.com/) offers "ViewMate" in three flavors: free, $100 USD, and $500 USD. The free one not only reads Gerbers but also Excellon (DRL) files automatically. (As opposed to GerberLogix which I can't seem to get to read a DRL file correctly for the life of me!)
 

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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2011, 01:14:41 pm »
While I'm at it...

I highly recommend "Saturn PCB Toolkit" by Saturn PCB Design (http://www.saturnpcb.com/) This free utility gives you lots of different calculations for many PCB design details. (I personally love the "Via Properties" tab!)
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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2011, 01:10:55 pm »
Hey SoftwareSamurai,

we just released a new Version of GerberLogix (V2.5).
Now there is a new auto format recognition for Excellon files (Drills), which tries to find out which number-format (3.3 / 2.4 / ...) and which unit (MM / Inch) is used in the file. This works in most cases, if there is at least one gerber file already read in (e.g. one Copper/Paste/Mask layer).

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 01:05:39 pm »
we just released a new Version of GerberLogix (V2.5).
Now there is a new auto format recognition for Excellon files (Drills), which tries to find out which number-format (3.3 / 2.4 / ...) and which unit (MM / Inch) is used in the file. This works in most cases, if there is at least one gerber file already read in (e.g. one Copper/Paste/Mask layer).
Well hot dog! It works great now! Okay, GerberLogix is my favorite again!  ;D
 

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2011, 11:53:36 am »
I never had any troubles with the older 2.4 version of GerberLogix. Sure setting up the drill files is (was) a bit cumbersome but not that problematic if you only have 2 drill files (PTH / NPTH) and know exactly what format has been used to generate the files.

It's a nice free tool. And even the comerical license doesn't seem to be that expensive.

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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2011, 12:24:49 pm »
I've added this list to the EEVblog Wiki:
http://www.eevblog.com/wiki/index.php?title=PCB_CAD_programs

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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2011, 02:14:00 am »
Hi all,
I was looking for PCB software to test and eventually use. This is the list of suppliers I ended up with. Please add what's missing and correct mistakes.

That was a great list, thank you for the effort!
I do have one more to add though
TinyCAD http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tinycad/index.php?title=TinyCAD

... Which I have now added to the wiki ...
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2011, 05:26:01 pm »
Hi,

Here's a couple of legendary DOS based ones I use to use by www.wintek.com

SmartWork
HiWire II

However, I do believe Wintek just recently pulled the products from their website.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2011, 11:53:25 am »
I've added this list to the EEVblog Wiki:
http://www.eevblog.com/wiki/index.php?title=PCB_CAD_programs

Dave.
Cool!  8). And great with a Wiki page!

Hi all,
I was looking for PCB software to test and eventually use. This is the list of suppliers I ended up with. Please add what's missing and correct mistakes.

That was a great list, thank you for the effort!
I do have one more to add though
TinyCAD http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tinycad/index.php?title=TinyCAD

... Which I have now added to the wiki ...

Great. Actually I wasn't looking for any schematic-capture-only SW when compiling the list, but now it's time to add a section for it. I will do that when I have some time over.
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2011, 03:59:31 am »
does anyone know a good simple PCB editor? We are currently using circuitmaker / traxmaker 2000 and love it but it's been discontinued for some time, it's the only thing bad about it. Eagle, Multisim is way to complex for what we need. All we need is up to double layer and can export in gerber.
 
 

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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2011, 11:15:30 am »
does anyone know a good simple PCB editor? We are currently using circuitmaker / traxmaker 2000 and love it but it's been discontinued for some time, it's the only thing bad about it. Eagle, Multisim is way to complex for what we need. All we need is up to double layer and can export in gerber.
 

I've scene good results obtained with KiCAD
 

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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2011, 11:26:36 am »
KiCAD will never be enough praised.
Go for it!

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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2011, 12:09:01 pm »
If anyone want to try the latest KiCad build, a link to download the files is in this post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5497.0

The latest stable release is Build 3044 (2011-07-08) and this has to be installed first, but I have started compiling some of the daily builds.

There are changes. Brand new icons throughout.  New PCB calculator, and new microwave tools in the PCB package - create specified track length, create specified gap, create  specified stub, create a stub arc, create a polynomial shape. 

If you are interested, this is a development build. I have used the Schematic package of this build, but not the other packages yet. 

If you have to revert, it is just a matter of putting the old files back (keep a copy, or just reinstall).

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2012, 01:47:04 am »
I would also add OrCAD SDT 386+ and OrCAD PCB 386+ both for DOS but many users are running this venerable product in WinXP (No hope for Win7 except with the use of VMWare (also Free). Windows video drivers, software and manuals can be found:

Yahoo! Groups DOS OrCAD Group

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/OldDosOrcad/

Concerning free Spice. There is a huge group on Yahoo! groups for LTSpice which is available as a free download from Linear Technology www.linear.com

I believe that one of the best bargains in the paid for software would have to be the
Sprint-Layout PCB and SPlan-7.0 Schematic Capture programs. Currently at 39.90 Euro ($52.58 USD at current exchange rates) for each program is is quite a bargain for a 4 layer PCB layout package.

Definitely worth a look.

Full function demos available (but no save or print)

http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html

http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/splan.html

They also have the coolest panel and graphics designer program called FrontDesigner 3.0
I have used this and it works really well for laying out dials and knobs. A lot easier than AutoCAD or
standard non application targeted CAD package.

http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/frontdesigner.html

I have to add the usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Abacom I just like their products.

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2012, 03:37:44 am »
I added a new subject, Schematic Capture. I put TinyCAD and sPlan under there. I guess there is more available so please reply if you know.

Then I added Other for other useful sw. So far it's only two front panel sw there.

For OrCad DOS. Do you know where it officially can be downloaded from? I will added it to the list when I know.

The other (LTspice and Sprint Layout) are already in the list.
 

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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2012, 03:49:13 am »
Sorry I missed the ones that were listed. Quite a large list to spin through.

You can find the Old DOS OrCAD in the Yahoo Group files section. You have to sign up to the group to get to the files/manuals/drivers etc.

This link should get you to the group.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/OldDosOrcad/

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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2012, 10:45:51 am »
TopoR (Topological Router) is to be added to Limited free version (up to 8 signal layers and 125 nets) and Commercial lists.

SimOne (electronic circuit simulator) shoud be added to Limited free version (commercial version is due to be released during ;) )

Both are products of Eremex Co Ltd
 

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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2012, 06:44:22 pm »

Gerber Tools: DFM Now! www.dfmnow.com

This tool also allows its users to request PCB Quotes from the PCB Manufacturer directly. It's built right inside the tool!
 

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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2012, 01:25:56 am »
Lacks SIMetrix, perhaps the more intuitive circuit simulator. SIMetrix Intro, a free versión:

http://www.simetrix.co.uk/

http://www.simetrix.co.uk/site/demo.html
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2012, 03:33:52 pm »
gerber tools:

online gerber viewer : http://www.gerber-viewer.com/
another online gerber viewer: http://circuitpeople.com/
McCAD Gerber Viewer: http://www.mccad.com/FREE_GerberViewer.html
3d gerber viewer: http://mayhewlabs.com/3dpcb
Gerber Viewer From Altium: http://www.daycounter.com/Downloads/camtasticdxpviewer.exe


hope it helps.

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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2013, 11:18:50 pm »
Check out this SW "DEX 2020" at www.kov.com.  I think it shows some promise as a good schematic and PCB layout tool.

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« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2013, 07:33:15 pm »
I really like Cadsofts EGALE so far, especially teir training tutorials section on their homepage: http://www.cadsoftusa.com/training/
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2013, 09:25:43 pm »
Add 'nl5' to the simulators list.
http://nl5.sidelinesoft.com/

Edit:Also PLECS
http://www.plexim.com/
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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2013, 02:18:22 am »
List updated.
 

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« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2013, 04:07:52 am »
There's also ViaDesigner available at ViaDesigner.com
 

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« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2013, 05:19:15 am »
Hello...
Really Great List...
You could also check out this    http://actpcb.com/pcb-calculator

Thankss
« Last Edit: September 15, 2013, 05:33:32 pm by Frank3point14 »
 

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« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2013, 07:17:42 am »
Hello...
Really Great List...
You could also check out thispcb calculator]www.actpcb.com/pcb-calculator.com]pcb calculator

Thankss

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2013, 02:53:04 pm »
Worked for me.
 

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« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2013, 03:56:12 am »
Could anyone suggest a simple software to import eagle files and export it into gerbers correctly?
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2014, 06:41:20 am »
There is lots of software in the market for PCB. But I am giving you a list of top used PCB Software’s and PCB industry sites list.
1.   http://www.zenitpcb.com/
2.   http://www.freepcb.com/
3.   http://www.osmondpcb.com/
4.   http://www.electroschematics.com/832/expresspcb-download/
5.   http://www.a-flex.com/printed-circuit-board-manufacturing.html
6.   http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/KiCad+EDA+Software+Suite
7.   http://www.gpleda.org/
8.   http://fritzing.org/home/
9.   http://www.rs-online.com/designspark/electronics/eng/page/designspark-pcb-home-page

I think they will help you in building a good list of PCB softwares.

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2014, 07:18:54 pm »
I opened a thread here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/eda/wich-pcb-software-to-choose/msg413975/ , I hope you make some considerations when choosing wich software to buy, and the reasons you are based to make the decision of buying it. Hope this leads us somewhere.

Cheers!
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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2014, 07:08:19 am »
My Web based EDA http://easyeda.com/ It is easy but good enough for 3000 Pads PCB.

Dillon
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« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2014, 11:27:09 am »
My Web based EDA http://easyeda.com/editor. It is easy but good enough for 3000 Pads PCB.

Dillon

Remove the period from the end of the URL you gave or people will get "access denied":

i.e. http://easyeda.com/editor
 

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« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2014, 03:25:20 pm »
Nice software list, i was happy to see some of the software i use on there, and some other ones i have not herd of that i could use. Thanks guys.
 

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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2014, 12:21:47 am »
Another free Gerber tool:

ViewMate

http://www.pentalogix.com/viewmate.php

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« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2014, 02:37:52 am »
I've knocked out a few designs so far with Upverter:

https://upverter.com/

It's schematic capture and PCB design that runs in your web browser. Import/export between their system and desktop EDA software is very much a work in progress, but you can export gerbers to get boards made and schematics in PNG format. (I think there are some other supported file formats for assembly, but I've done my own assembly so far.)

Ordinarily they'd charge for access, but you can get a free account for open-hardware projects (they're publicly viewable).
 

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« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2014, 12:03:10 am »
Found this one in a add on the first page.

PCBWeb Designer - http://www.pcbweb.com/

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PCBWeb is a free CAD application for designing and manufacturing electronics hardware.

Integrated Digi-Key Parts Catalog with Bill of Materials Manager.

Windows version only.

 

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« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2014, 03:59:54 am »
Found this one in a add on the first page.

PCBWeb Designer - http://www.pcbweb.com/

I just spotted that one today as well! It's added to the list and so is Upverter.
 

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« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2014, 04:33:29 am »
Mindi Microchip simulator no longer available...
 

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2014, 09:47:17 pm »
I have to buy an EDA package soon for work, and this forum has been invaluable... so I thought I'd better contribute.

I found Quadcept last week: https://www.quadcept.com/en/

It is a Japanese program and I didn't have high expectations, but I am really impressed.

It seems like a really good deal - Am I missing something here?

It doesn't really have libraries but that's OK, everybody builds their own anyway.
And there seems to be no (English speaking) community around it - but using the program is no problem.
 

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« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2014, 10:34:47 pm »

I found Quadcept last week: https://www.quadcept.com/en/

It seems like a really good deal - Am I missing something here?

The pricing is actually not cheap. You need both the Schematic & PCB package which will set you back $440 + $1100 = US$1540. This is an annual price (ie you need to pay it every 12 months).

I think you would be better off looking at DipTrace (www.diptrace.com) or Proteus (www.labcenter.com). Both of these are excellent programs for the money.
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« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2014, 05:03:18 am »
I really like Robot Room's Copper Connection.

http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/

It supports Gerber export, it will read ExpressPCB files to ween you off the proprietary fab habit, it's cheap, and the interface is easy to use.  Practically non-existent parts library, but I always make my own footprints anyway.  It's Windows only (.NET), obviously a work-in-progress, and the feature set doesn't compete with any of the big CAD packages, but for hobby projects it's absolutely wonderful.  You won't run into board size or pad limits at least.

No relation here, nothing to sell.  I like it and want to see it succeed, that's all.  :-+
 

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« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2014, 08:59:04 am »
Hello everyone.

I would like to do a question about some of the software listed.

I'm a Linux user so I'm looking for software that can perform, roughly, the same tasks as Proteus in Windows. Is KiCAD capable of it or what software can replace Proteus???
 

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« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2015, 10:01:34 am »
There is a change to your list. There now is the free version of AutoTRAX DEX. This is the non-commercial (not for profit) version. It is the identical version as the commercial version. There is only one binary program. The only restriction is that it must be used for non-commercial projects. There is no demo program; there’s no need!
  • You do not need to register for the free software.
  • It does not have a time limit.
  • There is no limit to the number or size of sheets.
  • There are no layer limits or PCB size limits.
  • There are no adverts for PCB board manufacturers.
  • The BOM does not ‘guide’ you to a major component distributor.
You can get it from http://kov.com/
 

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« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2015, 10:56:37 am »
I'm a Linux user so I'm looking for software that can perform, roughly, the same tasks as Proteus in Windows. Is KiCAD capable of it or what software can replace Proteus???

KiCAD does not even come close to Proteus.

I prefer Proteus to DipTrace, but DipTrace is less expensive so why not give their demo a try.
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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2015, 05:49:43 pm »
I too use Proteus by Labcenter.

At the moment I use an old version and was thinking of upgrading to version 8, I noted not a mention on the list. 

It never seems to get a mention in reviews, write-ups or in forums, I can only think the reason for this is the ODB++ Manufacturing is only available in the level 2 or higher version, level 2 costing  £595.

I did try many others and just couldn't get to like any, I even tried Design Spark by RS, I think that was a Number 1 systems spin off.  Many trial and free versions have 'laughable' limitations or the bigger the pcb size the bigger the price.

Software companies must make their profits too, would I be right in thinking the prices are steep because they don't exactly sell like 'groceries'? I noted the most expensive programs don't advertise their prices.... you have to ask for them and a shock often ensues.

I also agree with DereG  Kicad is nowhere near as good as Proteus, the version I had was buggy as many a free ones are I would say.

Don't get me wrong I'm not after a free dinner I won't mind paying a couple of hundred pounds but not several hundred pounds. Another gripe I wonder how many people actually use 3D viewing for me it's just a gimmick.

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« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2015, 09:08:16 pm »
Here is a free package for schematic/pcb/asic - a friend of mine mentioned it to me, he's been using it for his hobby stuff.
http://www.staticfreesoft.com/index.html
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« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2015, 07:55:05 pm »
I know this is a big question to ask, so I apologize in advance. I am just an electronics hobbyist and I want to learn PCB design, so that I can send out my own board to be manufactured. I would like to get the most bang for the buck. I want to invest in a software package that has plenty of room to grow and good learning resources. I only need a single license. After looking at the website for a lot of the PCD Design Tools out their it gotten so confusing regarding how the licenses works to make a decision. I need a PCB designer that has Layout, Schematic, Auto Routing and possibly other items I don't know yet. I plan on sending my boards out to a manufacture to be built, but I want to make sure I have all the functionality to make professional looking boards. It helps if there is a strong resource community online to help answer questions to easy the learning curve. I have listened to Dave and Chris for years. I think Dave likes Altium and Chris likes Kicad. I have also heard of Eagle Cad. How do you select the best PCD Design Tool for a single user that will provide me all the functionality to build what I hope someday will be robust and complex design boards that I can send to a manufacture to be built. Can it be done for around $1000.00. Any advice would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2015, 10:10:25 pm »
Can it be done for around $1000.00. Any advice would greatly be appreciated.

Take a look at the demo versions of DipTrace (www.diptrace.com) & Proteus (www.labcenter.com), then decide (perhaps) on one of their pin limited versions as these are pretty cheap. You can upgrade at anytime by paying the difference between what you have & the next level up.

There are educational deals too if you are studying.

By all means also take a look at KiCAD as it is free, but my preference would be one of the packages mentioned above.

I use Altium as well for work ................ but it costs close to $10K .......... and you can do 90% of what Altium offers for under $1K with either Diptrace or Proteus.
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« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2015, 12:29:26 am »
Thank DerekG for your feedback. I have watched both set of tutorials regarding both programs. I believe that DipTrace is the one I am leaning towards: simple because they seem to support Mac OS. I find that Mac software tends to be more stable than PC software most of the times. Although, sometimes I find Mac software tends limit functionality. Always a tradeoff. Thanks again for the great advice.

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« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2015, 09:15:38 am »
I believe that DipTrace is the one I am leaning towards .....
Yes, it is one of the easier pcb programs to learn. It is relatively straight forward & relatively powerful.

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simple because they seem to support Mac OS. I find that Mac software tends to be more stable than PC software most of the times.
I'm a Windows user but would tend to agree with your sum up.

Remember there will be a major release of DipTrace within the next 3 months. It is expected to be ver 3.x ....... so if you can hold off your purchase until then, that would save you a few dollars.
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« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2015, 04:11:13 pm »
Have tried many of the software available and all have good and bad points - Personally i now use Cadstar.  There's a list of software here :- http://www.surfacemountprocess.com/pcb-design-software.html

Could you please share at least some of them? Why do you use Cadstar?
 

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« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2015, 04:53:15 am »
I just updated the list with the latest software and cleaned it up a bit.
As always, please check list for errors.
 

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« Reply #83 on: September 17, 2015, 01:30:09 am »
Which to go with for a person who haven't used one of these programs for 30 yrs? (yes there were programs 30 yrs ago!)
For simple circuit with <20 components, PCB to have traces on both sides, no fancy layers/vias etc.

Free/Open source
Circuit Maker (Altium) - http://www.circuitmaker.com/
DesignSpark (RS comp) - http://www.designspark.com/
EasyEDA - http://easyEDA.com/editor (web based)
FreePCB - http://www.freepcb.com/
Fritzing - http://fritzing.org/
gEDA - http://www.geda-project.org/
KiCAD - http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/KiCad+EDA+Software+Suite
Minimal Board Editor - http://www.suigyodo.com/online/e/index.htm (English, Japanese)
Open Circuit Design - http://opencircuitdesign.com/
Orcad DOS (old) - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/OldDosOrcad/
PCB Elegance - http://www.pcbelegance.com/
PCBWeb Designer - http://www.pcbweb.com/ (Windows only)
Protel (Altium) AutoTrax/EasyTrax (DOS Based) - http://www.altium.com/community/downloads/en/downloads_home.cfm
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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2015, 01:03:31 am »
Abacom's SprintLayout6.0 hands down, easy to learn and use has many really useful features. Inexpensive. Good support.

Probably the easiest PCB CAD software I have ever used and I have tried nearly all of them. You can download a demo that does everything but save for free.

I have tried the free ones but this one is close to free and you can make industry standard 274-X files as well  as print for toner transfer.

I think it is the best value out there for a easy to use "Just Draw It" program.

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See it here:

http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html
 

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« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2015, 06:52:10 pm »
Abacom's SprintLayout6.0 hands down, easy to learn and use has many really useful features. Inexpensive. Good support.
I think it is the best value out there for a easy to use "Just Draw It" program.

Thank you for this hint. It is quite popular in the amateur radio community and more than once I got such a pcb layout file ...

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Re: PCB/EDA software list
« Reply #86 on: January 24, 2016, 07:43:55 pm »
Perhaps Dave or one of the moderators could convert this list into some sort of poll.  I know that many of the items on the list are less popular, while programs like KiCad, Eagle, Altium and Diptrace are widely used and appreciated.  I have tried a couple of dozen of the programs on the list over the years and know that sorting out the best is a tough job.  Seeing what the users of this forum think would rapidly winnow the selections.

The poll I envision would have rating factors like:  User interface, interchange capability, library size, library quality, board size, #layers, projected stability, price, extendability, documentation.

While things like user interface are very subjective, if a high percentage of people rate something high in this are it means something.

There would still be confusion.  As examples, the two programs I use the most are DEX 2020 and Eagle.  Eagle has few limits on size and layers if you pay the full license, so might rate high in that category.  But it also has a free version.  Might rate high there too, but it can't get both scores at once.

Similar confusion would occur on the library scores.  Since DEX imported the Eagle library they both have essentially the same library size, and it is huge.  But I would rate the overall quality of the library as low.  Many parts are poorly labeled, have low quality circuit symbols, and have footprint errors.  The quality of the library for DEX is even lower for two reasons.  First the import process had errors. Second, a feature of DEX that I like is 3D board visualization.  But this requires 3D models of the parts, and as far as I can tell none of the imported parts have 3D models.  A surprisingly small number of the parts submitted by users in DEX have these models either.  DEX would also score low in projected stability.  It is a one man show, and he has demonstrated the capability to get fed up.  No telling when development will stop cold because of anger, illness or old age.
 

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« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2016, 02:24:32 pm »
I too use Proteus by Labcenter.

At the moment I use an old version and was thinking of upgrading to version 8, I noted not a mention on the list. 

It never seems to get a mention in reviews, write-ups or in forums, I can only think the reason for this is the ODB++ Manufacturing is only available in the level 2 or higher version, level 2 costing  £595.

I did try many others and just couldn't get to like any, I even tried Design Spark by RS, I think that was a Number 1 systems spin off.  Many trial and free versions have 'laughable' limitations or the bigger the pcb size the bigger the price.

Software companies must make their profits too, would I be right in thinking the prices are steep because they don't exactly sell like 'groceries'? I noted the most expensive programs don't advertise their prices.... you have to ask for them and a shock often ensues.

I also agree with DereG  Kicad is nowhere near as good as Proteus, the version I had was buggy as many a free ones are I would say.

Don't get me wrong I'm not after a free dinner I won't mind paying a couple of hundred pounds but not several hundred pounds. Another gripe I wonder how many people actually use 3D viewing for me it's just a gimmick.

Dave

I am still struggling in making a decision between Proteus and Diptrace - Eagle seems a little quirky and has odd constraints so I've decided against them.

I'm a Brit so would like to support my local supplier (Proteus) but they seem very expensive for the hobby individual or else very constricted. The fact that you need to pay £595 + VAT = £750 if you want to have ground planes with cut-outs seems a major negative. I would like the option of say laying out sections of co-planar transmission lines for example and presumably the lower cost Proteus options can't do that? Can DipTrace?

I actually e-mailed Proteus and they didn't know what a co-planar transmission line was!
 

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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2016, 03:12:31 pm »
I actually e-mailed Proteus and they didn't know what a co-planar transmission line was!

Ask for "coplanar waveguide" or "CPW".  ;)
 

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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2016, 04:16:49 pm »
I actually e-mailed Proteus and they didn't know what a co-planar transmission line was!

Ask for "coplanar waveguide" or "CPW".  ;)
You're right, of course, and I probably did use the correct term when I emailed - but in any case, when it comes to circuit boards and integrated circuits transmission lines and waveguides are the same thing - at least they were when I was doing this for a living about 30 years ago!

The main point though is that PCB software vendors seem to pick completely arbitrary things to restrict when selling cheaper versions. Number of pins seems sensible and proportionate - board size (as in Eagle) and no cut-outs in power planes seems to me to just be annoying!
 

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« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2016, 02:47:57 pm »
Intercept - Pantheon PCB layout
http://www.intercept.com/
 

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« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2016, 07:49:33 am »
DesignSpark is pretty horrible. The library structure is unfathomable and it’s difficult to construct your own completely independent of the RS agenda of directing you toward their own products. That would be fine if all RS components were modelled but most (that I need) aren’t. There are extensive tutorials but intuitive apps don’t require tutorials. It’s not intuitive, plus the talk-over is a ghastly estuary accent which grates – ‘model’ for instance pronounced ‘modo-oww’, aghhhh. The help files don’t match the program and it’s difficult or impossible to track down what many of the click boxes mean. And it’s flaky, frequent crashes.

The best for me in PCB design is Eagle Cadsoft, but there is not simulation & too much libraries. Circuit Wizard is very intuitive to check simple problems in simulation. Proteus is excellent. I like WinQcad of MicroCad, but not so practical as Circuit Wizard, PCB Wizard & Live wire. Multisim is very good. I´ve never used Altium Designer. I think that each one of us have to start walking the first step trying at less one of these PCB software and then we will know with wich one of them we fell ok according our requeriments.

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« Reply #93 on: May 07, 2016, 11:13:54 pm »
I too use Proteus by Labcenter.

At the moment I use an old version and was thinking of upgrading to version 8, I noted not a mention on the list. 

It never seems to get a mention in reviews, write-ups or in forums, I can only think the reason for this is the ODB++ Manufacturing is only available in the level 2 or higher version, level 2 costing  £595.

I did try many others and just couldn't get to like any, I even tried Design Spark by RS, I think that was a Number 1 systems spin off.  Many trial and free versions have 'laughable' limitations or the bigger the pcb size the bigger the price.

Software companies must make their profits too, would I be right in thinking the prices are steep because they don't exactly sell like 'groceries'? I noted the most expensive programs don't advertise their prices.... you have to ask for them and a shock often ensues.

I also agree with DereG  Kicad is nowhere near as good as Proteus, the version I had was buggy as many a free ones are I would say.

Don't get me wrong I'm not after a free dinner I won't mind paying a couple of hundred pounds but not several hundred pounds. Another gripe I wonder how many people actually use 3D viewing for me it's just a gimmick.

Dave

I was just plowing around on old threads and saw this. I use Proteus too. I've used Eagle (cumbersome), the original CircuitMaker (before Altium bought it) and a few others.
Proteus is not without its issues ( what EDA is?) but it just does everything well. You have to go with Level two and advanced simulation in my opinion which cost a few bucks but you get a really good simulator plus a few other perks worth it for my designs. They stepped up the program quite a bit when it went to 8 so you get a nice smooth drawing to PCB transition when you change traces and components. For small to medium boards I'd say it's about the best around. The advanced simulator is really a pleasure to use. I guess I've been running Proteus about 5 years now. Medium EDA learning curve, not too bad if you know EDA's.

The thing I tell new people is not to look for the cheapest program. Most EDA's have a relatively substantial learning curve so wasting your time on a program that is cheap but a pain like the free Eagle is not worth it in the end. If you get the full version of Eagle it's not cheap either, in fact, the last time I checked it cost more than Proteus even with Proteus' advanced sim. I wouldn't buy an EDA without a simulator.

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« Reply #94 on: May 14, 2016, 05:53:34 pm »
fritzing might be the buggiest one i've ever used
 

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« Reply #95 on: May 14, 2016, 06:19:20 pm »
I've heard some good things about the new free Circuitmaker from Altium. No sim, AFAIK but people seem to like it. Don't overlook the free software from Mouser and Digi-key. I think one of them might be a scaled down Orcad or Electronics Workbench from NI.
I never liked Electronics Workbench from way back in the 90's when it was advertised in the old "Poptronics" but it may be better since NI picked it up. It does have a simulator, but it always seemed clunky to me. I guess you could use the LT simulator if you got a program without one but it's really nice to have an EDA with a built in sim, it makes the transition to PCB much nicer.
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« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2016, 09:15:07 am »
Quadcept was mentioned before, but not on the list yet.
http://www.quadcept.com/en/
 

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« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2016, 01:27:26 pm »
Quadcept was mentioned before, but not on the list yet.
http://www.quadcept.com/en/

Interesting producut, But $150 per month subscription only. :o
 

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« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2016, 03:00:04 am »
Quadcept was mentioned before, but not on the list yet.
http://www.quadcept.com/en/

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« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2016, 03:10:53 am »
Great to see this list: bookmarked and thanked.

Neat to think you are still here and updating this since 2011.  :-+
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« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2016, 06:43:26 am »
Great Listing.

This is really helpful. You saved my time.

Thanks.
 

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« Reply #102 on: September 21, 2016, 01:44:09 am »
I started my career laying out PCB's in the early 80's, a number of my boards are still flying today in several military aircraft, cant say which because I was under clearance at the time.  Anyway, I started a company about 6 years ago and we sell equipment into a niche application, not a huge business, but keeps me busy.  At that time, I did a survey of most of the cheaper layout applications at the time, and finally settled on Sprint-Layout 6.0.  It doesn't have many bells or whistles, and it is totally manual, doesn't have autorouting, but does have clearance checking functionality.  I believe it is the most powerful application versus price out there.  (best value)  I am still blown away by the fact that I can create a board in a few hours, email the gerbers overseas, and have prototype boards at my door in a few days at a cheap cost.

One of the limitations of Sprint Layout is its libraries, I have needed to tweak a number of them and create a bunch of my own.  I was on the team that created the original IPC surface mount guidelines in the early 80's, so this is no big deal....

Since I am old school, I naturally comment that none of the programs I have seen can really assist a designer to create the optimum board construction, either in optimal routing, RF performance, design for optimal cost.   
 

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« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2016, 03:13:27 pm »
There is a new online Gerber viewer at http://viewer.tracespace.io.

It lets you inspect the layers as well as a preview rendering of the board.

Share your designs on kitspace.org
 
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« Reply #104 on: December 31, 2016, 04:49:58 am »
Not exactly sure where to place this, as it's more of a /repair-rework/ end software tool, but I'd like to suggest adding OpenBoardView to the list of software.  As the name implies, it's OpenSource (MIT licence) and it's for rendering boardview files.  If you've watched any recent Louis Rossmann videos you'll have seen it being used.

http://openboardview.org

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« Reply #105 on: January 31, 2017, 01:51:51 am »
How about Robot Room's Copper Connection?

It can read ExpressPCB files and can create Gerbers from them as well as create PCB's from scratch.

They have a Home Edition (free but no Gerber or Excelon), A Studio Edition for 49.00 with Gerber and Excelon , and an Ultimate Edition for 99.00, that outputs in open text format.

It looks like the Home Edition can print out direct to a laser for transfer printing with mirroring capability or direct to paper scaled 1:1 for positive/negative use.

Limited to two layers AFAIK but seems quite easy to use. I found the program when looking for a way to convert a design that I found on-line done in ExpressPCB to Gerbers

so I could import them into SprintLayout6.0 and edit the PCB.

See:

http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/index.html



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« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2017, 01:32:05 pm »
Have anyone tried the free Orcad Lite version?
I have just stumbled across it and would like to know if it is any good.

http://www.orcad.com/products/orcad-lite-overview
 

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« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2017, 05:56:35 pm »
Please add:
PollEx from Polliwog http://www.polliwogeda.com
And from Daves video:
WinPCB https://www.csieda.co.jp/en/csieda/winPCB.html
 

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« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2017, 08:33:33 pm »
Have anyone tried the free Orcad Lite version?
I have just stumbled across it and would like to know if it is any good.

http://www.orcad.com/products/orcad-lite-overview

It feels funny how much they stress that their usage license does not expire:
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Unlike other free or trial versions of CAD software, access to OrCAD Lite does not expire. You can continue to use the lite version for as long as you want even after you upgrade to the full OrCAD suite.
I wonder whether the web page has always been like that, or whether they have updated after a certain CAD package has changed its licensing scheme  :P
 

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« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2017, 12:15:35 am »
I think we have to differentiate here, two groups, EDA for professionals or hobbyists.
 

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« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2017, 11:04:15 am »
Keysight's ADS is used for PCB layout aswell. I myself have used it a lot for RF microstrip filters (And other filters). Perhaps worth adding to the list?
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« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2018, 05:06:58 pm »
You might want to take a look at Horizon:
https://github.com/carrotIndustries/horizon
I think it can become a decent EDA software.
 

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« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2018, 05:04:01 pm »
Please consider adding VeroRoute to your list of programs for stripboard/perfboard.
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/veroroute/
It's written by me.  The larger the user base, the quicker it will improve.
 

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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2018, 07:26:22 am »
I clicked on the link for Copper Connection, because I hadn't checked on it in a while, and it looks like it now belongs to ExpressPCB: https://www.expresspcb.com/CopperConnection/

They say they'll have it updated to work with ExpressPCB manufacturing within 60 days, but there's no start date on the page that I could find. All Copper Connection customers can get a free lifetime ExpressPCB Engineer Membership, which gets you 10% off some stuff and "free Gerber files". They also say that the current Copper Connection will continue to work, and apparently they'll even provide replacement keys for the current version in case you lose yours.



Horizon looks interesting. The user experience looks like it's better than KiCad, which is enough for me to hopefully never try KiCad a second time. It tries to do things "the right way", some of which I like and some of which I'm not sure about. A couple of examples: 1. It's netlist-aware in editing, which sounds nice because I like netlists for reverse engineering. But it doesn't consider identically named netlists connected, which sounds like it could make netlist-based RE more difficult. 2. Apparently it doesn't allow you to use generic parts that aren't associated with an actual part number, which seems like it would make going from ideas to schematics very inconvenient because it sounds like you'd have to stop your schematic drawing workflow to look up and decide on every single part before you can draw it. Anyway, maybe I'll try it.

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« Reply #114 on: December 15, 2018, 12:11:29 am »
LibrePCB of librepcb.org released this December. May be it will turn into popular free EDA tool.
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« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2019, 11:24:48 am »
Upverter (https://upverter.com/) in 2017 joint Altium and became free for all types of projects, so it can be moved from "Commercial" section to "Free".
 

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« Reply #116 on: July 24, 2019, 03:14:49 am »
Don't forget PCBCAD51 and PCBCAD360.
Just a few pounds at https://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk
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« Reply #117 on: July 24, 2019, 09:49:02 am »
Don't forget PCBCAD51 and PCBCAD360.
Just a few pounds at https://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk

What are the differences between PCBCAD51 and PCBCAD360?
 

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« Reply #118 on: July 28, 2019, 09:51:43 pm »
Don't forget PCBCAD51 and PCBCAD360.
Just a few pounds at https://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk

What are the differences between PCBCAD51 and PCBCAD360?

PCBCAD51 was written in C# and PCBCAD360 was written in C++.
PCBCAD360 is quite a bit faster on screen redraws.
PCBCAD51 has some basic 3d rendering of pcb's, PCBCAD360 doesnt.
Otherwise they are identical.
PCBCAD51/PCBCAD360/PCBCAD720 PCB design software https://www.murtonpikesystems.co.uk
 
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