EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[dr_frost_dk]

Well Batteroo have apparently changed tactics lately, they are responding to comments on https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/batteroo-extend-battery-life-significantly#/comments, and the last video posted to youtube only have 243 views now after 13/14 days.

So:
Answering questions, not deleting them on indiegogo.
So far no buying likes/views on youtube.

Have they run out of money or have they noticed that we keep records of deleted comments and bought views?

[Luminax]

I've seen my fair share of passivity and 'compliance' in many companies.. could it be that they're being audited? 
I'm kinda wondering what kind of company that Korean telecom thingie is to give total free reign to their US branch... but eh seems like a lot of companies do that so surprised I am not

[ebastler]

@Luminax - wrong thread, or did I miss some connection there?

[Luminax]

Well... last I checked this is the Baterpoo thread so yeah I was mentioning about them...
although what I mentioned might have been a very optimistic view from a very pessimistic tired man who have seen his fair share of company gears that just looks beautiful on the outside...

So yeah... I'm just making some wild assumptions that one of their VC or big investor(s) might've initiated an audit that caused an 'above board' trend.... just... maybe........

[ebastler]

Thanks Luminax. No worries; it's just that the connection with the Korean telecom had escaped me (and still does, to be honest...  ).

[Luminax]

SK Telecom America is their original "Landlord" as in their space in Sunnyvale is actually SK Telecom America's space for their "Innopartners" thingamabob as you can see here :

https://www.batteroo.com/about-us
http://sktainnopartners.com/portfolio/

and the parent company is SK Telecom from Korea

[drussell]

...it's just that the connection with the Korean telecom had escaped me (and still does, to be honest...  ).

One of the major VC investors in Batteroo is SK Telecom.

Perhaps you need to go back and re-read some of the thread?   

[ebastler]

One of the major VC investors in Batteroo is SK Telecom.
Perhaps you need to go back and re-read some of the thread?   

Like, back to posts from 2016? No thanks, I am not that much of a Batteroo aficinado (or scholar) 
Thank you for the background detail that provided the missing link!

[drussell]

Like, back to posts from 2016? No thanks, I am not that much of a Batteroo aficinado (or scholar) 

As much as I hate to reduce the S:N ratio of this thread...  My 2¢...

There are plenty of threads on many different forums scattered across the internet with a plethora of valuable information on many topics.  You're the one posting to an already lengthy topic just to chastise someone else for supposedly not knowing what they're taking about when it is actually you who hasn't done their homework and bothered to do their research by reading or searching the discussion.    

Thank you for the background detail that provided the missing link!

I realize this kind of discussion can become very long and it can be an arduous journey to follow the entire path completely but a quick google search specifying the site=eevblog would have found your answers and eliminated any confusion on your part even if you weren't actually interested in every sordid detail of this silly saga. 

(Though, I would highly suggest that anyone with even a cursory interest in this debacle read the whole thread even if it takes some time and attention!  It is a very educational exercise from many perspectives!  YMMV, I suppose, depending on your level of interest in these fields of electronics....)

[Brumby]

Like, back to posts from 2016? No thanks, I am not that much of a Batteroo aficinado (or scholar) 

As much as I hate to reduce the S:N ratio of this thread...  My 2¢...

There are plenty of threads on many different forums scattered across the internet with a plethora of valuable information on many topics.  You're the one posting to an already lengthy topic just to chastise someone else for supposedly not knowing what they're taking about when it is actually you who hasn't done their homework and bothered to do their research by reading or searching the discussion.    

This is a danger that anyone with a strong opinion and a lazy approach.  A word to those people: If you can't be bothered doing the research before posting something that shows this - then don't post.

If you do - you're only embarrassing yourself.


There are ways of joining in with a long running thread without being so clumsy.


(S/N now less than 15dB ... and falling.)

[mc172]

Jesus, nice to see that people need to jump on their high horses because they remember a detail from a year ago on page xyz in a 350 page thread that someone else didn't.

This is a danger that anyone with a strong opinion and a lazy approach.  A word to those people: If you can't be bothered doing the research before posting something that shows this - then don't post.

Brumby, you don't half talk some crap. Do the research? How was ebastler supposed to know that this:

I'm kinda wondering what kind of company that Korean telecom thingie is to give total free reign to their US branch... but eh seems like a lot of companies do that so surprised I am not

...was even a reference to this thread, other than it being posted in this thread?

I've read this entire thread and I also had no idea what the Korean thing was all about. Cue comments about me being inadequate, thick, not paying attention... 

[Brumby]

Talking about crap.....  Try just reading what was written rather than reading between the lines.

Refer to my post.


I cited one particular statement - and another member's comment on it.

In case you still can't work it out - my comments were in relation to this, specific, attitude:

Like, back to posts from 2016? No thanks, I am not that much of a Batteroo aficinado (or scholar)

NOW - to make things perfectly clear, this, in itself, is NOT a bad thing - we all have limited time at our disposal.  But if someone wants to go big with such an attitude on a matter that has been addressed, then things aren't going to go smoothly.

[mc172]

Cue comments about me being inadequate, thick, not paying attention...

In case you still can't work it out

 

I don't think not wanting to sift through 350 pages for one mention of Korea is unreasonable.

[Brumby]

Ah...

Oh, forget it.

I'll just go sit in the corner and chew my leg off.

[Luminax]

You need some sauce with that? 

[Fungus]

Thanks Luminax. No worries; it's just that the connection with the Korean telecom had escaped me (and still does, to be honest...  ).

They're in the same office building as Batteroo.

[Luminax]

I know I'm nitpicking here, but that sentence make it seems like they're sharing office when in fact SK Telecom is the landlord, and Batteroo is just a meagre tenant.
I'm still surprised SK Telecom America haven't booted them out yet... perhaps they're in too-ultra-deep in the brown stuff to pull back out now... Though I really doubt they'd see any return of investment without some type of big-name wholesale deal

[ebastler]

I cited one particular statement - and another member's comment on it.

In case you still can't work it out - my comments were in relation to this, specific, attitude:

Like, back to posts from 2016? No thanks, I am not that much of a Batteroo aficinado (or scholar)

NOW - to make things perfectly clear, this, in itself, is NOT a bad thing - we all have limited time at our disposal.  But if someone wants to go big with such an attitude on a matter that has been addressed, then things aren't going to go smoothly.

In your quote, you conveniently deleted the smiley from my post. And the "Thank you" that followed, right in the next sentence. This very much distorts the "attitude" you elected to find in my post.

Anyway, feel free to work yourself into whatever state you want on this matter. Enjoy!

[Brumby]

Sorry.  From what I meant to say, things have gone sideways and it's not going to be easy to straighten things out.  I accept my effort was clumsy.

Just call me a dickhead, ignore what I said and let us move on.

[ebastler]

Sorry.  From what I meant to say, things have gone sideways and it's not going to be easy to straighten things out.  I accept my effort was clumsy.

Just call me a dickhead, ignore what I said and let us move on.

Thank you very much. Same here -- I certainly had not meant to be antagonistic with my initial posts on the Korean connection, and was taken by surprise by the hostile reaction. Sorry if this came across the wrong way, and I'd be  happy to close this case.

[Cerebus]

Just call me a dickhead, ...

Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. 

[Luminax]

You know... this all started because I gave batterpoo gang the benefit of the doubt...
 
I would like to be discharged and thrown into the landfill now thank you...

[ebastler]

You know... this all started because I gave batterpoo gang the benefit of the doubt...

They rather deserve the doubt of the benefit... 

[Brumby]

New page....

We start afresh.

[Cyberdragon]

New goal: the longest thread on EEVblog forum (if it isn't already). And eventually...the longest thread on the internet...lets hit 10k+ replies soon (what even is the longest thread on the internet?).

On topic: has anyone exploded these things on video yet?

EDIT: 300k+ for record territory...GO GO GO!