Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[zkf0100007]

I have followed Reply #1624 to upgrade my SSA3021 PLUS.
After step I) Initial backup of SSA3021X Plus
There's no back files in my U disk.
What's wrong happened?

[luudee]

I have followed Reply #1624 to upgrade my SSA3021 PLUS.
After step I) Initial backup of SSA3021X Plus
There's no back files in my U disk.
What's wrong happened?

Make sure your flash drive is FAT32 formatted and empty (except for the ADS backup file).
Try reformatting it on a windows PC.

Then try again. It took me two tries as well, not sure why ...

rudi

[zkf0100007]

I have tried several U disks.
All the U disks were formatted as FAT32 on Windows 10 PC.

[luudee]

I have tried several U disks.
All the U disks were formatted as FAT32 on Windows 10 PC.

Did you unzip SSA3000X+_backup_NAND+mem+firmdata0_11411.zip  ?
Only SSA3000X+_backup_11411.ADS should be on the flash drive.

rudi

[zkf0100007]

yes, I have unzipped the file.

[luudee]

yes, I have unzipped the file.

Make sure your SSA3021X has the latest firmware, BEFORE you do any of the steps
below. It should have SSA FW 3.2.2.4.0 !


ok, so you now have a USB Flash drive, FAT32 formatted, larger than 2GB, the only
file on the flash drive is "SSA3000X+_backup_11411.ADS"

Plug this in to your SSA3021X, and power it on.
Once it is booted, go to "System->System Info->Firmware Upgrade"
Navigate to the U-disk0, select the ads file, and then click "Open".
That should run the backup script ...

What happens now ?

rudi

[zkf0100007]

I have followed your advice. After excuting the .ads file，the SSA3000 showing “upgrading …”，and reboot automatically.

[luudee]

I have followed your advice. After excuting the .ads file，the SSA3000 showing “upgrading …”，and reboot automatically.

Thats good news. Now shutdown the SSA, remove the flash drive and copy all files to a secure location for backup.
Check that the total size of all files is around ~483MB

And  then proceed with the upgrade instructions !

rudi

[zkf0100007]

There's no other files in the USB disk except ssa3000x+_backup_11411.ads after rebooting.

[luudee]

There's no other files in the USB disk except ssa3000x+_backup_11411.ads after rebooting.

Strange, I really don't know why you are not getting a backup.

Keep on trying different USB Flash drives.

If you want you can open your unit and attach cables to UART port, that should tell you what is going on and why no backup ...

rudi

[Bicurico]

If the Product ID of the device does not match the Product ID in the ADS file, then the upgrade will not be executed.

The current Product ID depends on the currently installed FW and, of course, if it has been tampered during the hack.

That might be one reason why the backup is not working.

Regards,
Vitor

[zkf0100007]

Actually，I want to backup my SSA.
I followed the instructions，but the backup seemed to be failed

[zkf0100007]

How to check the product id in the ads file？

[tv84]

How to check the product id in the ads file？

In some of them I included the ProdID in the file's name.

ssa3000x+_backup_11411.ads  -> means it ONLY works in a machine with ProdID=11411.

If you read the thread you'll see that Siglent has been changing the ProdIDs of some of these equipments and that's why some FWs are not retro-compatible.

See here.

[luudee]

How to check the product id in the ads file？

Telnet in to your SSA.

Edit   /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_trends_config_info.xml

make sure the pid line looks like this:

      <pid>0x11411</pid>


rudi

[luudee]

Guys,

I recently upgraded my SSA to SVA.

Should I copy the calibration files from my SSA back to my new SVA ?

Thanks,
rudi

[Bicurico]

These files are not touched by the upgrade/crossgrade.

[SharpEars]

Damn! I made a bigger mistake!!!   

Now the SSA3032X-R became a SSA3075X-R.   


There goes the neighborhood...

I presume that this is a joke, since there don't appear to be any instructions on all of eevblog on how to get apply this sort of hack to an SSA3000X-R series model. (only models without the -R)

[Bicurico]

Damn! I made a bigger mistake!!!   

Now the SSA3032X-R became a SSA3075X-R.   


There goes the neighborhood...

I presume that this is a joke, since there don't appear to be any instructions on all of eevblog on how to get apply this sort of hack to an SSA3000X-R series model. (only models without the -R)

It is not a joke, but the hack is not public.

[SharpEars]

Damn! I made a bigger mistake!!!   

Now the SSA3032X-R became a SSA3075X-R.   


There goes the neighborhood...

I presume that this is a joke, since there don't appear to be any instructions on all of eevblog on how to get apply this sort of hack to an SSA3000X-R series model. (only models without the -R)

It is not a joke, but the hack is not public.

So what is stopping this hack from going public? All the other hacks have full guides on how to perform them here. It's hard to believe that someone has actually figured out a way and is not sharing it with the rest of us, unless this is just a big fat lie (fake screenshots or not).

[SharpEars]

Damn! I made a bigger mistake!!!   

Now the SSA3032X-R became a SSA3075X-R.   


There goes the neighborhood...

How do we know this hack is legit if no other person has duplicated your steps so far and a almost year has gone by. These could be just images from a higher end model superimposed (i.e., Photoshoped) over the screen of the SSA3032X-R for all we know!

[tv84]

So what is stopping this hack from going public?

It's called "freedom of choice".

How do we know this hack is legit if no other person has duplicated your steps so far and a almost year has gone by. These could be just images from a higher end model superimposed (i.e., Photoshoped) over the screen of the SSA3032X-R for all we know!

I use Paintbrush.

PS: Those type of comments/demands are usually the best reason for not disclosing some of these things publicly. Think about it.

[luudee]

So what is stopping this hack from going public?

It's called "freedom of choice".

How do we know this hack is legit if no other person has duplicated your steps so far and a almost year has gone by. These could be just images from a higher end model superimposed (i.e., Photoshoped) over the screen of the SSA3032X-R for all we know!

I use Paintbrush.

PS: Those type of comments/demands are usually the best reason for not disclosing some of these things publicly. Think about it.

Hi TV84,

I understand and respect you wanting to keep your work to yourself.

But, I am still an Engineer!

Can you at least tell us if it is a SW/FW hack only, or if HW needed to
be "adjusted" as well?

Thank you!
rudi

[tv84]

Can you at least tell us if it is a SW/FW hack only, or if HW needed to be "adjusted" as well?

Never touched the HW and that's why it is shown like that.

[dibro]

With the information I found in this forum and experience with my SSA3021X I've got my SSA3032X-R now in factory mode.
Didn't find a way to keep the serial number thou, but this works for me.
So it is possible as you can live with the XX....