REVIEW - Rigol DS2072 - First Impressions of the DS2000 series from Rigol

[alank2]

That looks like a nice probe, not so clumsy as the rp3300

I agree - I'm not a fan of the RP3300's - I much prefer the RP1300's that came with the DS1102E.  Those RP3300A's look pretty nice.

[darrylp]

I rarely need to scope signals down below 5mv, so am happy with them.
As I have several leads, and most are switchable x1 to x10. Its not an issue for me, I initially found them a bit small in my hand.... Of course the clip end piece is off in that picture.

I will take a couple more clearer photos later.


--
 Darryl

[marmad]

Looking again through Dave's teardown photos of the DS2000, and I noticed a pad labelled 'VIDEO OUT' and some unpopulated footprints near the first FPGA (connected to the ADC and sample memory).

I'm really curious about this... has anyone done any probing there - or have an idea what it may be for?

[Carrington]

It looks like a composite video output. 

[darrylp]

Looking again through Dave's teardown photos of the DS2000, and I noticed a pad labelled 'VIDEO OUT' and some unpopulated footprints near the first FPGA (connected to the ADC and sample memory).

I'm really curious about this... has anyone done any probing there - or have an idea what it may be for?

is that 14 way header a known jtag for something ?  or is it a VGA header ? which would have 5 pins ?

[cybernet]

Looking again through Dave's teardown photos of the DS2000, and I noticed a pad labelled 'VIDEO OUT' and some unpopulated footprints near the first FPGA (connected to the ADC and sample memory).

I'm really curious about this... has anyone done any probing there - or have an idea what it may be for?

if thats topside, then its the JTAG for BFIN (no other parts on that chain)

[marmad]

is that 14 way header a known jtag for something ?  or is it a VGA header ? which would have 5 pins ?

There are no connections top or bottom between the 'video out' footprints and the header.

I assumed it was a composite video out - but of what exactly? It appears to be coming from the FPGA that controls sampling - not the one dealing with display memory.

[Carrington]

Yes, it's very strange, Also the video output seems to return to the fpga. No return, out fron the FPGA!
To the 10 pin IC reach from the right three tracks: Analog RGB? or Digital? Analog Sync!
Very strange. 

[UberSteve]

Anyone know if you can get a front dust cover for the DS2000? I've seen one for the DS4000...

Cheers,
Steve

[Carrington]

Yes, it's very strange, Also the video output seems to return to the fpga. No return, out fron the FPGA!
To the 10 pin IC reach from the right three tracks: Analog RGB? or Digital? Analog Sync!
Very strange. 

http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lmh1980.pdf 
Is a analog video sync separator for NTSC, PAL: 480I/P, 576I/P, 720P, 1080I/P/PsF
So it does have some sense. But why is unpopulated?   

[alank2]

Hi,

Anyone know if you can get a front dust cover for the DS2000? I've seen one for the DS4000...

I would like to know this too - I saw the DS4000 dust cover yesterday and thought "how cool it that"...

[Wim13]

Funny, last time i did a self-cal, on the end i got a message, not a reboot.
the message was, that is was ended, and asked please reboot.
that was nice and polite of the DSO.

First i thought i was because of the new FW, but today i did a self-cal,
and it di not show the message, but did the reboot as always..

Have somebody here seen this message also..?

[sinultima]

something is weird with my ds2202 scope, as soon as I plug in a USB drive is locks up/freezes and I can only power it off. I Tried to install the new firmware, but when I enter the update during boot my USB drive shortly flashes as if it is being read and then nothing happens. i.e. CH1 does not blink. Can somebody confirm this, or am I doing something wrong? What should I do now?

Thanks

[jonese]

Are you sure the firmware file is correctly named as it was originally?

I had mine renamed (to help me know what firmware version it was) and forgot to rename it back and had the exact same behavior.

[sinultima]

Are you sure the firmware file is correctly named as it was originally?

I just extracted it from the zip file, was that not right?

I had mine renamed (to help me know what firmware version it was) and forgot to rename it back and had the exact same behavior.

Well, the problem is, that the scope locks up as soon as i plug in even en empty USB drive :-(

Does the scope need some crazy formatting? I just formatted with linux command line...i.e. FAT32, single partition on DOS compatible MBR

[flolic]

Try another USB drive.

[CodyShaw]

Are you sure the firmware file is correctly named as it was originally?

I just extracted it from the zip file, was that not right?

I had mine renamed (to help me know what firmware version it was) and forgot to rename it back and had the exact same behavior.

Well, the problem is, that the scope locks up as soon as i plug in even en empty USB drive :-(

Does the scope need some crazy formatting? I just formatted with linux command line...i.e. FAT32, single partition on DOS compatible MBR

I had this problem too.

Make sure that ONLY the firmware file is on the USB stick. Delete the .doc file.

[sinultima]

Try another USB drive.

Yea, it was stupid of me to trust in the scopes ability to read my USB drives - I tried all of them after your suggestion (5 or so) and sure enough the crappiest half torn apart USB drive from china worked. The irony! Thank you very much!

[Orange]

Funny, last time i did a self-cal, on the end i got a message, not a reboot.
the message was, that is was ended, and asked please reboot.
that was nice and polite of the DSO.

First i thought i was because of the new FW, but today i did a self-cal,
and it di not show the message, but did the reboot as always..

Have somebody here seen this message also..?

Yes I also noticed this yesterday....I got this message.

I did not do a self cal again, so don't know what happens the second time. I was more interested to see if it would keep my official licenses, and it did

[Carrington]

Yes, it's very strange, Also the video output seems to return to the fpga. No return, out fron the FPGA!
To the 10 pin IC reach from the right three tracks: Analog RGB? or Digital? Analog Sync!
Very strange. 

http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lmh1980.pdf 
Is a analog video sync separator for NTSC, PAL: 480I/P, 576I/P, 720P, 1080I/P/PsF
So it does have some sense. But why is unpopulated?   

Haha! yes, the DS4000 series mounts it.
Will help if populated it to the DS2000 series?
Is it enabled on the firmware?

[etc6849]

I ordered my scope on 7/19/2013 from tequipment.net and it arrived on 7/24/2013.  My serial number is DS2A1517xxxxx and it came with RP3300 probes (not RP3300A).  The software version is 00.01.00.  I'm also in the US if that matters.

If you order from tequipment.net don't forget to use the eevblog code for 6% off!  I believe the code the lady used was EEVBLOG6, but if it doesn't work, just call them.  They retroactively (called them the same day I placed the order) gave me the discount, but it's better if you give them the code when you order.

I guess they aren't selling that many Rigols if my unit is older than everyone else's...  Is it safe to update to the latest firmware if I want to use the keygen later?

Thanks for the info gilbjd. By now the range is:

  DS2A1520xxxxx (Week 20, 2013) -> RP3300
  DS2A1527xxxxx (Week 27, 2013) -> RP3300A

[Kobus]

Soon after, my DS2072 "gave off the magic smoke"    No more playing 'till it gets replaced   

Got my replacement from TEquipment . Not only did they replace it and refund my international
shipping, they gave me the EEVBlog discount as well, awesome!! 

Every step of my order was complicated, First Dawn arranged next day delivery straight from Rigol NA when I bought it.
At the time I was in the US paying with a foreign a foreign credit card. I then did
the RMA internationally. I also had an issue trying to get out of paying customs and duties for the replacement unit
and paying UPS a clearing fee.In the interim, my credit card expired preventing them from being able to issue a refund.
Then guy in charge of the RMA at Rigol was away on vacation at the time but they decided not to wait and sent out the
replacement promptly. I must have dealt with their entire staff throughout the process. The were very helpful
and professional all the way.

For anyone looking to buy, I highly recommend TEquipment.net. If you end up needing an RMA you'll be grateful that you
bought from them. They also give a 6% discount to forum members, just ask them for it.

I hope I haven't overstepped forum rules. I don't have any commercial interest in TEquipment, I just felt that they deserved
it and I honestly believe that it's in forum members best interest to give them their business.
 

[Orange]

Glad it did work out for you,

In which country are you located ?

[Giorg]

serial 1527xxx

confirmed with non switchable probes

[bronson]

Anyone around San Jose CA US want to trade my unused, still in package 3300 probe for your 3300A?  Just idle curiosity.