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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4700 on: March 11, 2016, 09:28:47 pm »
As predicted, Batteriser deleted the comment about them ignoring refund requests.

They'll only anger people if they post another update without pictures. My guess is they post low-res pictures of a generic factory in China, some generic machinery, maybe a photo of some factory workers.

Maybe add some cock and bull story about how they did a run and it wasn't up to spec (only the best for Batteriser customers!  ;)), and they're now waiting for machine time so they can do another production run...... hence why they only have photos of the factory and not the products

And that way anyone asks for pictures they can respond "See the update" and "We posted them!"
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4701 on: March 11, 2016, 11:31:54 pm »
Maybe add some cock and bull story about how they did a run and it wasn't up to spec (only the best for Batteriser customers!  ;)), and they're now waiting for machine time so they can do another production run...... hence why they only have photos of the factory and not the products

Things are conveniently inline for something like that to happen. Failure to ship will likely be "on" the contract manufacture and not Batteroo, as the shipping date responsibilities were transferred to the CM in last months update:

"....While facing the challenge of working during the Chinese New Year holiday season, two of our executive team members have been in China and Taiwan working very closely with our contract manufacturer these past few weeks. As a result of this productive collaboration and our team’s diligence, our Contract Manufacturer has confirmed their commitment to ship Batterisers this coming March....
Best Wishes,
Bob Roohparvar
CEO | Batteroo, Inc."

As predicted, Batteriser deleted the comment about them ignoring refund requests.
Yep the comments about refund requests being ignored appear to be gone.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4702 on: March 12, 2016, 02:12:35 am »
"....While facing the challenge of working during the Chinese New Year holiday season, two of our executive team members have been in China and Taiwan working very closely with our contract manufacturer these past few weeks. As a result of this productive collaboration and our team’s diligence,...
Poor Bob, this suggests he's never been anywhere near China during Lunar New Year.  The chance of being very busy is nil, Nada, Zip.

Anyone that can get anything done - is out of town for at least a week, more like ten days - as the only annual holiday celebrated by everyone.  Even your poolside hotel service would be suffering!  Think 'Thanksgiving' in the US.
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4703 on: March 12, 2016, 02:47:59 am »
Well, it sure explains why they couldn't take any pictures at the factory... Other than the padlock on the doors, I suppose  :-DD

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4704 on: March 12, 2016, 02:18:10 pm »
"....While facing the challenge of working during the Chinese New Year holiday season, two of our executive team members have been in China and Taiwan working very closely with our contract manufacturer these past few weeks. As a result of this productive collaboration and our team’s diligence,...
Poor Bob, this suggests he's never been anywhere near China during Lunar New Year.  The chance of being very busy is nil, Nada, Zip.
That's not what he wrote. He is using politician or manager speak. He didn't wrote that they worked during Chinese New Year holiday and how long "a few weeks" are. But let me translate what he really means :)

"facing the challenge of working during the Chinese New Year holiday season":
It was god damn impossible to work during the Chinese New Year holiday season.

"two of our executive team members have been in China and Taiwan working very closely with our contract manufacturer these past few weeks":
But my two brothers had a good time for the last two months in China and Taiwan, enjoying country, people and culture.

"As a result of this productive collaboration and our team’s diligence, our Contract Manufacturer has confirmed their commitment to ship Batterisers this coming March.":
On the last day of our holiday we met a guy in a shed who promised he will deliver anything for cheap until end of 2017.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4705 on: March 16, 2016, 01:17:18 pm »
It's been a while. They haven't wrapped up this scam yet!? No updates of substance, but plenty of insulting FB spam updates dished out regularly by their Batteriser monkeys. Getting a shot at testing them seems like hell of a stretch at this point. They aren't producing anything, are they? It's difficult to think of a plausible explanation to state otherwise. You would think with an ongoing production you would be happy to show it to people, especially the backers. What's their endgame? To collect as much money as possible and disappear?
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4706 on: March 16, 2016, 03:09:27 pm »
/Sue wishing this thing would just die... :palm: :palm:
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4707 on: March 16, 2016, 03:13:41 pm »
I'm wishing they actually ship the thing - then it can stand on its merits....

... but I think you'll get your wish before I get mine.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4708 on: March 16, 2016, 05:17:18 pm »
It appears management is leaving Batteroo. They must have shipped.
http://xitore.com/management-team/
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4709 on: March 16, 2016, 05:35:36 pm »
Or the money is all gone
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4710 on: March 16, 2016, 05:51:50 pm »
Xitore is another stealth company with a vaporware wonder product, allegedly outperforming current technologies in the storage field, by an order of magnitude. Needless to say, they are currently looking for some serious funding. Any takers?
Perhaps just a coincidence, but it looks like another bunch of friends with a Middle East connection: Roohparvar, Alemzadeh, Hashemi, Amidi, Vakilian, etc...
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 06:02:10 pm by Wytnucls »
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4711 on: March 16, 2016, 06:35:56 pm »
Surprising that he does not mention his experience at Batteroo in his resume.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4712 on: March 16, 2016, 06:40:41 pm »
I wouldn't!

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4713 on: March 16, 2016, 07:12:22 pm »
To be fair he still has Batteroo on his linkedin profile
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4714 on: March 16, 2016, 07:17:37 pm »
But he is a very busy person it seems:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/19/superdense_flasher_skyera_changes_ceo/

and a video:



I'm afraid to look further on where else he was involved.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4715 on: March 16, 2016, 07:42:49 pm »
It appears management is leaving Batteroo. They must have shipped.
http://xitore.com/management-team/
The battery management was never there !
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4716 on: March 17, 2016, 03:21:59 am »
The xitore web site's copyright notice is 2014 and their press announcing Bob's joining was Feb 2015. All predates Batteroo-gate so not really any withholding of information for a change.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 03:23:43 am by rich »
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4717 on: March 17, 2016, 04:30:24 am »
The xitore web site's copyright notice is 2014 and their press announcing Bob's joining was Feb 2015. All predates Batteroo-gate so not really any withholding of information for a change.
There is a typo in the web page since his LinkedIn account shows Feb 2016. Here is the top of his page:

Chief Strategy Officer
Xitore, Inc.
February 2016 – Present (2 months)
Executive Board Member
Xitore, Inc.
February 2016 – Present (2 months)
Executive Chairman of the Board of Directors
Batteroo Corporation
July 2012 – Present (3 years 9 months)San Francisco Bay Area
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4718 on: March 17, 2016, 10:07:15 am »
To me, Roohparvar just looks like a shonk. There is something about that smirk that says "I'm full of shit". I just can't put my finger on it. It's like one side of his facial muscles say "I'm cheerful" and the other half says "I'm going to take all your money and piss it up the wall".

« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 10:11:33 am by Halcyon »
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4719 on: March 17, 2016, 10:28:03 am »
Just a few more days...


My guess is there will be still be no mention of the trademark dispute, no actual date, and no photos they have promised. Just grade-A waffle.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4720 on: March 17, 2016, 10:40:51 am »
Xitore is another stealth company with a vaporware wonder product, allegedly outperforming current technologies in the storage field, by an order of magnitude. Needless to say, they are currently looking for some serious funding. Any takers?

Maybe they could borrow against this bridge I own, only ever used by an old lady to go to the shops.
I'm thinking they misspelt the company name, it should have been Xitort.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4721 on: March 17, 2016, 10:54:07 am »


Yup, you can never trust a guy in a suit, the ultimate facade.

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4722 on: March 17, 2016, 11:25:43 am »
Reminds me of this guy :-) Steve Vizard days ! Forgot his trademark lines ...
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4723 on: March 17, 2016, 11:55:25 am »
Yup, you can never trust a guy in a suit, the ultimate facade.

I was going to add a condition, something like:

If he's wearing a suit and trying to sell you something ...

But now I think about it, you're right. I never met anybody in a full suit that didn't talk/act like a Ferengi.

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #4724 on: March 17, 2016, 12:06:36 pm »
Reminds me of this guy :-) Steve Vizard days ! Forgot his trademark lines ...

I'm reminded of:


For those who didn't watch Australian TV in the 80's:
 


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