If it should go to the most worthy, or where it could potentially get the most use, then I might as well just donate it to the local hacker space?
Not such a bad idea, as much as any individual would like to be the winner of a hot scope, perhaps you could offer it to any not-for-profit group such as a hacker space or radio club etc. That way there is a potential that a number of people will get some use out of it and perhaps someone will make use of the advanced features instead of it just being used to troubleshoot an Arduino doh-dah. Get the hacker spaces to send in a postcard with a suggestion for an EEVblog video and you choose based on the idea you like most?
As I stated in the other thread - I think this nice of a scope would be very likely to disappear quickly from a hacker space. But perhaps that is just a reflection of my limited hacker space experience.
Here's an idea: Have one rule of the contest be that the winner agrees to donate their current scope to a hacker space or to a deserving scope-less forum member. That's a win win - you ensure that the new owner has at least some prior experience with a scope and can appreciate what they are getting and you end up with a multiplier - 2 people get new scopes!
Here's an idea: Have one rule of the contest be that the winner agrees to donate their current scope to a hacker space or to a deserving scope-less forum member. That's a win win - you ensure that the new owner has at least some prior experience with a scope and can appreciate what they are getting and you end up with a multiplier - 2 people get new scopes!
I'd be OK with that - but I'm not sure anyone would really be excited about my old scope. Everything works - but it's a bit battered and bruised ... and very likely to be out of spec.
In the state of New South Wales where Dave is I found this:
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Businesses/Advertising_and_marketing/Special_offers_and_competitions.page
It might apply to Dave if he includes a requirement to purchase something from the EEVBlog. I'm no lawyer but maybe a Patreon "donation" could fall under such a definition. When the prize is an Oscilloscope worth many thousands of dollars it might matter more so than for a prize of much lesser value.
Legally (tax-wise etc), Patreon donations are just that, voluntary personal donations, with no expectation o any return.
Also I have been donating 2.00 USD a month for years on my Paypal account. Is that run by Patreon?
No, Patreon is separate system. Before Patreon, PayPal donations was the only option. I prefer people use Patreon, as it:
a) Is public, so people know how much I'm getting
b) It has easy mechanism in place to provide content or other stuff to supporters.
I still accept PayPal of course, but I'd prefer if people switched to Patreon. But no worries if you don't want to though.
I'm not terribly wise in the ways of legal issues, but it might be good business to have one of the drawings pulled from people that have purchased the rebadged meter if it is available in time for the giveaway. Just a thought.
I'ld like to be on , what ever list it becomes ?
Have to keep reading to see how it works out .
It's too late , already hooked on the site & youtube
Thanks Dave / Daves
I'm not terribly wise in the ways of legal issues, but it might be good business to have one of the drawings pulled from people that have purchased the rebadged meter if it is available in time for the giveaway. Just a thought.
I think that would be covered by the Supporters group - and Dave has already earmarked one of the scopes for there.
Dave, any ideas on when this contest will actually be started and awarded ?
Is it a case of waiting till Keysight ship them to you, or do you have a date in mind ?
Just wondering how drawn(teehee) out the process will be.
Design a circuit, that does...
Maybe with different categories. Pure analog, mcu (no arduino libs) mixed signal and arduino.
I like this suggestion. One scope for each category, the third one automatically rules you out of the draw.
Design a circuit, that does...
Maybe with different categories. Pure analog, mcu (no arduino libs) mixed signal and arduino.
I like this suggestion. One scope for each category, the third one automatically rules you out of the draw.
But not all uses for a high end scope involve circuit design...
And what's to prevent plagiarism - which is trivially easy these days?
Unfortunately, I think trying to find a way for the winners to "prove" they deserve or need one of these scopes will only lead to either overly complex rules - taking up lots of Dave's time - or a process that is easily gamed.
Post in thread, say "I want" and then describe the first project it would get used on.
Most interesting project (where Dave judges interesting and includes the "has a hope in hell of being doable" metric) wins.
Stay tuned, we
may or may not have something like that coming!
If only more people knew what an oscilloscope was you could probably make more than $15K from views by saying how expensive it is and then smashing it, or lighting it on fire, or blending it in a chipper shredder or something in a youtube video like people do when new Apple stuff comes out.
AFAIK, Keysight fanboys are usually more intelligent and sane.
Keysight fanboys (and girls) are among the
more most intelligent and sane!
Quick comment on country/state based eligibility. We've included as many regions as we legally could; we aren't intentionally ruling people out. Many regions have strict rules around total prize value, giveaway mechanics, location of giveaway host etc.
Quick comment on country/state based eligibility. We've included as many regions as we legally could; we aren't intentionally ruling people out. Many regions have strict rules around total prize value, giveaway mechanics, location of giveaway host etc.
I'm sure that there are good reasons to leave some countries/regions out, but that doesn't make me feel left out any less
I just looked at the official rules:
In accordance with local laws, if the selected entrant is a Canadian or South African resident, that entrant will be required to answer a mathematical skill testing question, without assistance of any kind (whether mechanical or otherwise), within the time frame provided above.
LOL, that just means that by local law you can't just give away anything without a contest. Of course the question can be what the answer is to 1+1
Indeed. To win a 3000X scope, it might be "what's the next number in the sequence 2, 3, 5, 7, 11,
"
To win a 90000 series, it'll be more along the lines of "Prove P = NP or otherwise, you have six hours"
Nice find! That's by far my favorite T&C. Basically, computers can't win.
@ Keysight_DanielBogdanoff
Would you be able to find out why some countries, in my case particularly Australia are not on the list?
I guess it's a case by case basis.
@ Keysight_DanielBogdanoff
Would you be able to find out why some countries, in my case particularly Australia are not on the list?
I guess it's a case by case basis.
Yes, each country is a case by case basis for reasons listed in my previous post. We're taking a closer look at Australia to try to include it (no promises).
Looking forward to answering a skill testing question when my name is drawn!
That's always the risk with a random draw. It is a high end scope (think $15K worth).
Sell it for $10K. Buyer will be happy and make use of it.
Use money to get 20 low end scopes to giveaway. Higher probability of having someone happy and more people happy.
Sell it for $10K. Buyer will be happy and make use of it.
Use money to get 20 low end scopes to giveaway. Higher probability of having someone happy and more people happy.
Yeah, he should buy 20 Rigols for that money. That will really help promote Keysight's scopes!