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Offline McBryce

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #500 on: August 25, 2015, 01:57:42 pm »
Quote from: codeboy2k on August 25, 2015, 01:47:24 pm
Yes, maybe someone should start a GoFundMe for audiophoolery busting :)

If they do, they should start here with AudioQuests "Theory & Education" whitepapers: http://www.audioquest.com/theory-education/ a joy to read. They even explain directional cables!

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #501 on: August 25, 2015, 02:09:19 pm »
McBryce: Do they also explain bi-cabling and the fact that lower frequency need a larger copper section that higher frequency audio stuffs??
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #502 on: August 25, 2015, 02:35:57 pm »
Yup, they certainly do! If you have a few minutes of your life that you're willing to sacrafice, try reading this one: http://www.audioquest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DoNoHarm-whitepaper-1222-11-r11.pdf

My personal favourite is the bit about the signals having to jump from strand to strand in multi-core cables and how they use the "ultimate test equipment: The human ear" to test which direction the copper best allows the electrons to flow in  :)

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #503 on: August 25, 2015, 03:53:18 pm »
Quote from: McBryce on August 25, 2015, 02:35:57 pm
Yup, they certainly do! If you have a few minutes of your life that you're willing to sacrafice, try reading this one: http://www.audioquest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DoNoHarm-whitepaper-1222-11-r11.pdf

My personal favourite is the bit about the signals having to jump from strand to strand in multi-core cables and how they use the "ultimate test equipment: The human ear" to test which direction the copper best allows the electrons to flow in  :)

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Ohhh thanks for that nice reading, you should put a laugh/spray warning on this one because I nearly exploded and fall on the ground of laughing when I saw what I attached.
Is that something needed to really enjoy their product?

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #504 on: August 25, 2015, 05:53:24 pm »
Quote from: McBryce on August 25, 2015, 02:35:57 pm
If you have a few minutes of your life that you're willing to sacrafice, try reading this one: http://www.audioquest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DoNoHarm-whitepaper-1222-11-r11.pdf

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Counter Spiral geometry takes the group of negative conductors and spirals them one way while the group of positive conductors encases the negatives and spirals in the opposite direction. This ensures that there is minimum interaction between the positive & negative conductors, reducing distortion caused by the magnetic fields that surround each conductor...

If the magnetic fields are such an issue surely only plugging in one of the wires would reduce the interaction and "distortion caused by the magnetic fields" to the minimum leading to the ultimate listening experience...
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #505 on: August 25, 2015, 08:16:12 pm »
You're not seriously trying to argue against an Audiophile statement with logic and common sense are you??  You haven't a chance. :popcorn:

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #506 on: August 31, 2015, 08:09:47 pm »
New innovative way to harvest free energy:




Just be careful, don't scream on the sack of potato!
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #507 on: September 01, 2015, 01:03:45 am »
For those who play video games, it remind me about a special potato:

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #508 on: September 03, 2015, 09:40:59 am »
Ars Technica tore apart one of these audiophool Ethernet cables a while back: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/gallery-we-tear-apart-a-340-audiophile-ethernet-cable-and-look-inside/ They also did a blind test on them. $1 to anybody who can guess the results...
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #509 on: September 16, 2015, 07:56:12 am »
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Once I heard an Italian company claiming their resistor ladder audio DAC is more accurate than sigma delta based designs, and they use 0.1% resistors without oversampling! I would like to know how it is possible to achieve 24 bit accuracy (1/16777216, about 5.96*10^-8) from 0.1% parts without sigma delta modulation and dynamic elements matching. Even 16 bit converters require better tolerance.
Why it's simple - a gray beard hand picks the resistors by measuring them on an ancient tube resistance meter, then puts each one in a special oscillator jig and listens to it for one hour. Based on this he pairs the resistors together. These are sent to a secret isolated island in the pacific, where nude virgins hand solder the final assembly and weave cables from raw silver thread and moon light. This is sent back to the greybeards back home, where it is listened to most vigorously and the copper is again hand trimmed to the final specs by means of a fine file.
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #510 on: September 29, 2015, 08:41:54 pm »
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #511 on: September 30, 2015, 12:53:43 am »
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #512 on: September 30, 2015, 08:26:41 am »
Very interesting:
The all-natural elemental diode is in a formula base of forty-seven different energy frequencies. It is molded into different strengths and forms to be worn on the body or placed on devices that emit electromagnetic radiation. A diode is defined as a device with a two-element electron tube or semiconductor through which a current can pass in only one direction. The natural elemental diode’s energy current moves in one direction, giving a positive spin of energy. The elemental diode also acts as a rectifier by keeping the body’s energies and meridians in perfect balance.
so if I wear it on the wrong side my energy will be lowered?
I accidentally washed my Personal Diode. Is it ruined?
We suggest you place the diode in the sun to recharge its energy. Place in direct sunlight for 30 minutes on each side.
They invented a rechargeable diode.....
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #513 on: September 30, 2015, 08:36:07 am »
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They invented a rechargeable diode.....
They should team up with batteriser to get a longer life time out of it.
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #514 on: October 03, 2015, 08:13:32 pm »
Quote from: ciccio on September 30, 2015, 08:26:41 am
Very interesting:
The all-natural elemental diode is in a formula base of forty-seven different energy frequencies. It is molded into different strengths and forms to be worn on the body or placed on devices that emit electromagnetic radiation. A diode is defined as a device with a two-element electron tube or semiconductor through which a current can pass in only one direction. The natural elemental diode’s energy current moves in one direction, giving a positive spin of energy. The elemental diode also acts as a rectifier by keeping the body’s energies and meridians in perfect balance.
so if I wear it on the wrong side my energy will be lowered?
I accidentally washed my Personal Diode. Is it ruined?
We suggest you place the diode in the sun to recharge its energy. Place in direct sunlight for 30 minutes on each side.
They invented a rechargeable diode.....
Best regards

that is the most hilarious pile of utter bunkum I think I have ever read.  Sadly, there are lots of people who want to believe in this sort of crap.

I think I shall develop my own Crystal oscillation field balancer. maybe 32khz?
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #515 on: October 08, 2015, 02:21:06 am »
What do they think? Their competitors use iron or nichrome in their products?  :-DD
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #516 on: October 12, 2015, 01:20:20 am »
Three out of five people in a non-blinded trial failed to notice any difference using the pocket-diode. Surely it therefore works as advertised...ffs.
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #517 on: October 12, 2015, 03:52:29 am »
100% of the time, it works none of the time!  :-DD
Some of these are hilarious...  ;D
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #518 on: October 16, 2015, 10:37:38 am »
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Offline Stuart Coyle

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #519 on: October 22, 2015, 12:13:24 am »
I found this www.bobbeck.com the other day. There is a pdf that includes full schematics (for what that is worth). Perhaps we should encourage Bob Beck to take part in the OSHW movement.

The site also links to sota.com that manufacture the pulsers etc, they sell a thing with batteries, an led and an LM358 oscillator for $280.00. www.sota.com/silver-pulser.html Maybe the electrodes are pure silver?

I have a degree in physics and no idea how a 4Hz square wave is supposed to create colloidal silver, maybe Bob studied different physics to me.
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #520 on: October 22, 2015, 12:17:28 am »
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #521 on: October 22, 2015, 07:59:55 am »
Quote from: Stuart Coyle on October 22, 2015, 12:13:24 am
I found this www.bobbeck.com the other day. There is a pdf that includes full schematics (for what that is worth). Perhaps we should encourage Bob Beck to take part in the OSHW movement.

The site also links to sota.com that manufacture the pulsers etc, they sell a thing with batteries, an led and an LM358 oscillator for $280.00. www.sota.com/silver-pulser.html Maybe the electrodes are pure silver?

I have a degree in physics and no idea how a 4Hz square wave is supposed to create colloidal silver, maybe Bob studied different physics to me.

Incomplete schematics, it doesn't show where you need to sprinkle the magical fairy dust!

And I was hoping to save myself about $279 by building my own :(

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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #522 on: October 26, 2015, 08:37:47 pm »
 :palm: This is horrible. It will be the main reason the cockroaches will win against humanity.
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #523 on: October 26, 2015, 08:45:39 pm »
But what Dave put on twitter today is even better:

http://www.madscientist-audio.com/magictubes.html
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Re: Snake oil
« Reply #524 on: October 29, 2015, 02:29:43 am »
Let me guess...the black powder is pepper and the white is salt. Seasons your audio perfectly.
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