Author Topic: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers (Read 632609 times)

gussy · « **Reply #1425 on:** January 14, 2021, 07:47:23 am »

Quote from: DeepLink on January 14, 2021, 07:44:31 am

I also just received my SSA3021X Plus (calibrated 17/09-2020) So I would expect that mine is also missing the cable

My SSA3021X+ which has a similar build date to yours had the cable so you're probably fine. I'm not sure when it changed but it seems like somewhere around early to mid 2020?

Ghislain · « **Reply #1426 on:** January 14, 2021, 08:32:26 am »

Quote from: DeepLink on January 14, 2021, 07:44:31 am

Where did you get the cable?

Provided you have performed the 'enhancements', check whether the VNA works correctly - if it is completely of, open up the unit and check for a missing cable.
Any good quality 50 ohm coax cable with angled male SMA connectors will do, I did not have one laying around so I bought it here https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/SMA-SMA-M-M-JUMPER-CABLE-SUCOFORM-86-HUBER-SUHNER-9-5CM/202656674830?hash=item2f2f47740e:g:CeYAAOSw4ylcuGCN

Bicurico · « **Reply #1427 on:** January 14, 2021, 08:40:03 am »

This is good information!

Ghislain · « **Reply #1428 on:** January 14, 2021, 08:41:09 am »

Quote from: Bicurico on January 13, 2021, 03:40:35 pm

@Ghislain
Any idea what this connector is used for?

I believe TurboTom nailed it, Shahriar did a review of the SVA1032X here .
Jump to 3:36 - 4:00 - 4:33 - 22:00 where you get a good view of what is on the board. The header seems to be connecting into the Altera Max II CPLD.

Noy · « **Reply #1429 on:** January 14, 2021, 09:51:45 am »

Would be interesting whats missing in the P to become a R. Maybe it is possible to add the things which are missing really cheap..

Elasia · « **Reply #1430 on:** January 14, 2021, 03:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Noy on January 14, 2021, 09:51:45 am

Would be interesting whats missing in the P to become a R. Maybe it is possible to add the things which are missing really cheap..

Another board spin with a chip the 15 and 21/32P doesnt have and most likely a different layout as suggested by the datasheets. Only an SSA3075 Plus could possibly be converted to the R which is more costly than just getting the SSA3032X-R with matching datasheets and converting it to 75

TurboTom · « **Reply #1431 on:** January 15, 2021, 12:01:07 am »

As it appears, the "-R" versions are equipped with a completely different power supply unit , to tell from the fan much enlarged and relocated to the rear. This may indicate that the "pimped" FFT engine consumes considerably more power than the standard configuration so a more powerful PSU was required. This makes it quite questionable if a hack (even combined HW/SW) would be possible.

tautech · « **Reply #1432 on:** January 15, 2021, 12:10:59 am »

Quote from: TurboTom on January 15, 2021, 12:01:07 am

As it appears, the "-R" versions are equipped with a completely different power supply unit , to tell from the fan much enlarged and relocated to the rear. This may indicate that the "pimped" FFT engine consumes considerably more power than the standard configuration so a more powerful PSU was required. This makes it quite questionable if a hack (even combined HW/SW) would be possible.

Good spotting, hadn't noticed this.

SSA3000X Plus

SSA3000X-R

Noy · « **Reply #1433 on:** January 15, 2021, 12:16:03 am »

True or a pre release photo..
Markings arent there for the connectors?

tautech · « **Reply #1434 on:** January 15, 2021, 12:37:36 am »

Quote from: Noy on January 15, 2021, 12:16:03 am

True or a pre release photo..
Markings arent there for the connectors?

From the US website but yes, obviously a prerelease unit as it’s not even sporting a SN# label.

MOTechGuy · « **Reply #1435 on:** January 17, 2021, 12:53:09 am »

Need some help guys...

I have an SSA3021X Plus running 3.2.2.3R1

I loaded the telnet firmware and changed the upgrade_static_ID to 11403. Synced and rebooted. Now any 3.2.2.3R1 firmware (SSA or SVA) I try to flash ends and says "Upgrade Fail". What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Even the telnet ADS file fails in "Upgrade Fail"

EDIT:
Flashed SVA1032X firmware again and did the license hack (Post #1223). Now it works perfectly!! Thanks to all who made this possible.

Now, why when I go to the Calibration menu for the Reflection measurement and try to select select "Open" or "Open+Short" is the dialog empty?? It only says "Press [Esc] to quit"??

EDIT2:
This must be a bug in the firmware, my buddy flashed his unmodified SSA3021X Plus with the latest firmware and the reflection calibration is blank as well! Can anyone report this to siglent?

tautech · « **Reply #1436 on:** January 18, 2021, 09:21:47 am »

Welcome to the forum.

FYI 3.2.2.3R1 firmware is the current version for both SVA and SSA Plus models however the correct firmware series must be used for your instrument; the model reported on the Sys Info page.

Real SVA1032X here and calibration only is available in VNA mode where you should select a Cal kit before attempting a Cal.

Open ports with SMA adapters fitted screen shot attached.

MOTechGuy · « **Reply #1437 on:** January 19, 2021, 05:16:47 pm »

My SSA3021X Plus spectrum analyzer shipped with firmware V3.2.2.3.2. When it was running that version, the calibration for the Reflection measurement worked perfectly.

Before I hacked it, I upgraded it to V3.2.2.3.3R1. When I upgraded to that version, it seems to have broke the Reflection measurement calibration menu, it's blank.

I don't want to downgrade to 3.2.2.3.2 because it appears it will brick my spectrum analyzer. But I really need the Reflection option to work to tune my duplexer

tv84 · « **Reply #1438 on:** January 19, 2021, 05:30:40 pm »

Quote from: MOTechGuy on January 19, 2021, 05:16:47 pm

I don't want to downgrade to 3.2.2.3.2 because it appears it will brick my spectrum analyzer.

Why is that? The bricking was related to when doing the crossflash. If you already have a SVA running the correct SVA FW you can downgrade to 3.2.2.3.2.

Ghislain · « **Reply #1439 on:** January 20, 2021, 09:14:45 am »

Quote from: MOTechGuy on January 19, 2021, 05:16:47 pm

I don't want to downgrade to 3.2.2.3.2 because it appears it will brick my spectrum analyzer. But I really need the Reflection option to work to tune my duplexer

Not sure what is going on with your unit, is your version info (System knob/System Info) effectively showing Model SVA1032X and SW1 3.2.2.3.3R1?
Do you have any messages in the Sys Message section?
The reflection option is only available in SA mode however you can switch to VNA mode, dial in your settings, perform a calibration and use the SWR, Log Mag or Lin Mag formats

DeepLink · « **Reply #1440 on:** January 20, 2021, 02:31:40 pm »

Just to recap once more for the dummies like me...

I have a SSA3021X+ with FW V3.2.2.3.3R1

No need to upgrade to SSA3032X+ before crossflash to SVA1032X+?

Ghislain · « **Reply #1441 on:** January 20, 2021, 02:48:33 pm »

^^^
Correct, cautiously follow the existing procedure and your SSA3021x Plus will be enhanced to effectively become a SVA1032x (including the extended BW that the SSA3032x Plus has over the SSA3021x Plus).

DeepLink · « **Reply #1442 on:** January 20, 2021, 04:30:24 pm »

Something is wrong...

Starting out with a SSA3021X+ V3.2.2.3.3R1
Did run the SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS and gained telnet access

Had a friend help me with the telnet commands;
$ mount -o remount,rw /usr/bin/siglent
vi /usr/bin/siglent/config/NSP_config_upgrade_info.xml - change to <upgrade_static_id>11403</upgrade_static_id>
$ sync && reboot

Flashed the SVA FW, but nothing happens. Still a SSA3021X+ on the system info page
Tried to run the SVA1032X_telnet.ADS, but it returns to the update screen after a while and no telnet acces
Also tried the SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS, but same result - returns to the update screen after a while and no telnet acces

The SSA is stil running like normal with V3.2.2.3.3R1

Any suggestion is most welcome

Ghislain · « **Reply #1443 on:** January 20, 2021, 04:43:22 pm »

It looks like you have you not altered NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml (the second part of the procedure) ?
Use SVA1032x_telnet.ads to gain telnet access and perform the changes in the said file.

DeepLink · « **Reply #1444 on:** January 20, 2021, 04:57:37 pm »

No, I have not, as I'm stuck in #6 (post #1223)

After flashing with SVA fw the unit returned - still as a SSA
Running both SVA1032X_telnet.ADS and SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS returns to the upgrade page and no telnet access

Unit is still working as a normal SSA3021X+

Bicurico · « **Reply #1445 on:** January 20, 2021, 05:05:58 pm »

Have you checked the ip settings?

Elasia · « **Reply #1446 on:** January 20, 2021, 05:48:23 pm »

If its booting then you should have telnet as long as you are using the correct ip settings on the device and run the sva telnet file

If for insert reason you dont, you can always hook up to the physical console port and that will get you in

DeepLink · « **Reply #1447 on:** January 21, 2021, 07:35:29 am »

IP does not change, and I have access to the web interface a all times

Tried to run
SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS
SVA1032X_telnet.ADS
SVA1032X_V3.2.2.3.3R1.ADS
but every time the unit returns to the FW Update screen, and no information in System Info
The web interface are running all the time

Should I try to re-flash with SSA FW or even downgrade to an earlier SSA FW?
Just to "reset" things

Bicurico · « **Reply #1448 on:** January 21, 2021, 08:41:53 am »

I think you are doing something wrong...

Have you unzipped the ADF file before putting it on the USB memory?

Are you selecting the FW upgrade file before pressing ENTER?

It seems that the file is just not valid and hence the upgrade process is not running.

Regards,
Vitor

Bicurico · « **Reply #1449 on:** January 21, 2021, 08:42:49 am »

Another question:

The device might still say it is an SSA3032X-P, but have you checked if you got the SVA functionality?
I would imagine that this is possibly the case!


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