Author Topic: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide (Read 1311179 times)

michael.hill · « **Reply #1150 on:** December 04, 2012, 04:05:15 am »

I just ordered a DS1052E through Amazon.

Hopefully it'll be hackable.

c4757p · « **Reply #1151 on:** December 04, 2012, 05:58:27 am »

One more confirmed success, DS1052D running 00.03.01 converted to DS1102D running 00.04.00, all is good. Thank you!

michael.hill · « **Reply #1152 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:12:26 am »

I can confirm I had success with mine as well. One thing to note is that while I was using the 02.02 sp2 firmware, I was NOT able to connect to the Ultrascope software. I was able to running 3.01. However, I just went ahead and ran the demoIDN software to change the model number and serial anyway. I then upgraded back to firmware 4.0 After upgrading to 4.0, I was able to connect to the Ultrascope software again. I wonder if it has to do with running Ultrascope version 00.01.08 rather than 00.01.07. I tried to find 00.01.07, but the rapidshare link in the first post is no longer working and neither does the link to Rigol's page.

Anyway, major success!

Thanks!

xnaron · « **Reply #1153 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:17:10 pm »

I've been searching and I can't find any links to firmware upgrades to the 1052e on the rigol site (or any other). I am not worried about hacking to 100mhz but would like to upgrade my firmware to the latest official version. Does Rigol not release the firmware upgrades? Anyone have a link for them?

thanks

Arp · « **Reply #1154 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:22:00 pm »

I used:
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/161536/4.0to2.02.zip

found here:
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/261138

xnaron · « **Reply #1155 on:** December 06, 2012, 08:01:39 pm »

Thanks. Does anyone have links to official Rigol firmware upgrades?

Velund · « **Reply #1156 on:** December 07, 2012, 11:57:35 pm »

Just upgraded 1052E v3.01 to 1102E...

After upgrade to v 4 decided to connect scope to output of external AF generator (to be precise, it was AF Gen out of Marconi 2955 communication service monitor) and, observing 2v rms 1 khz sine wave, ocassionally turned on frequency counter... Was really surprised, as it show anything I can imagine between 1 and 2 khz, changing every second or so, but not 1 kHz.

Does anyone seen this before?

PS: With square wave from cal. output it measures 1 khz, but sine wave gives erratic results.

drieg · « **Reply #1157 on:** December 08, 2012, 09:45:25 am »

Thanks for confirming that, this is a good news

blackknife · « **Reply #1158 on:** December 08, 2012, 12:21:56 pm »

Quote from: Velund on December 07, 2012, 11:57:35 pm

Just upgraded 1052E v3.01 to 1102E...

After upgrade to v 4 decided to connect scope to output of external AF generator (to be precise, it was AF Gen out of Marconi 2955 communication service monitor) and, observing 2v rms 1 khz sine wave, ocassionally turned on frequency counter... Was really surprised, as it show anything I can imagine between 1 and 2 khz, changing every second or so, but not 1 kHz.

Does anyone seen this before?

PS: With square wave from cal. output it measures 1 khz, but sine wave gives erratic results.

I tried a lot of different signals with the frequency counter without problems, just some issues when the frequency goes up to 150-160MHz (guess it's normal) but the reading it's still pretty accurate, for example if the real frequency is 145.000 MHz the counter shows 144,997 or something like that.
Did you do the self-cal after the hack? (remember to wait 30 minutes for warm up before doing it)

JF · « **Reply #1159 on:** December 08, 2012, 02:04:46 pm »

I just successfully upgraded my 3.01 DS1052E scope to 4.00 DS1102E !

Thanks to everyone involved in this new hack !

Velund · « **Reply #1160 on:** December 08, 2012, 02:15:43 pm »

Quote from: blackknife on December 08, 2012, 12:21:56 pm

I tried a lot of different signals with the frequency counter without problems, just some issues when the frequency goes up to 150-160MHz (guess it's normal) but the reading it's still pretty accurate, for example if the real frequency is 145.000 MHz the counter shows 144,997 or something like that.
Did you do the self-cal after the hack? (remember to wait 30 minutes for warm up before doing it)

It was self-calibrated after upgrade t v4 (I do not run self-cal with 02.02.sp2 - just changed info and upgraded back at once). And I never activated counter while scope was used with 3.01 firmware for some time, so cannot say for sure - was it the same or this problem appear after upgrade to v4.

As you can see - frequency on the bottom of the screen (as set with MEAS menu) is always correct. But counter widget on the top gives erratic results on the sine wave from AF generator.

PS: I downgraded to 3.01 (via 02.02.SP2 as v4 simply ignored USB stick with 3.01 upgrade file). Found the same thing with counter widget. Switched to channel 2 where 2v/div was set at the moment, then switched trigger to ch2 (as counter widget measures using trigger channel) and oops - there was correct 1 kHz display. Switched to 1V/div - and got erratic display at widget (this time between 1.3 and 1.4 kHz). Switched to 500 mV/div - and widget started to display erratic nubmers in much wider range.

Signal at the input was 1 kHz, 2V RMS (around 5.7V p-p).

So, most likely it is was counter input overload. Some "feature" of scope hardware, that must be kept in mind if frequency measurements must be done...

Now I'm upgrading firmware back to v4... Will play some more with counter after self-cal...

aquilarubra · « **Reply #1161 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:31:55 am »

Hello, I am evaluating to buy a DS1052E, or just incase try the hack

But I couldn't find an answer that is mandatory for my purchase. Please, could you gurus tell me if the DS1000E line allows to save FFT data to CSV? I wonder also if Ultrascope can do that.

Thank you!

spelunker · « **Reply #1162 on:** December 23, 2012, 10:29:40 pm »

Hello all,

I am new to this great forum.

Just saying that now I am a proud owner of a DS1102E..

Was at 3.01 now at 4.0

Want to thank all those that created and shared this easy to do guide.

All I need to do is wait 30 min or so and calibrate.

George

spelunker · « **Reply #1163 on:** December 23, 2012, 10:57:08 pm »

Quote from: michael.hill on December 06, 2012, 05:12:26 am

I can confirm I had success with mine as well. One thing to note is that while I was using the 02.02 sp2 firmware, I was NOT able to connect to the Ultrascope software. I was able to running 3.01. However, I just went ahead and ran the demoIDN software to change the model number and serial anyway. I then upgraded back to firmware 4.0 After upgrading to 4.0, I was able to connect to the Ultrascope software again. I wonder if it has to do with running Ultrascope version 00.01.08 rather than 00.01.07. I tried to find 00.01.07, but the rapidshare link in the first post is no longer working and neither does the link to Rigol's page.

Anyway, major success!

Thanks!

hello,

I can confirm 00.01.07 did the same as the .08 did for you.

I did upgrade same way as you.

and of course same great result... l-)

George

tiger · « **Reply #1164 on:** December 25, 2012, 04:14:24 pm »

Hello all,

i know i might be possibly reviving an old post but - i just got a GDS-1052-U model OSC from GWINSTEK - which i pretty much believe its a rebranded rigol DS1052E. I was wondering since i can do all the same commands in the serial interface - i should be able to mod the GDS-1052-U i have aswell to 100 mhz (GDS-1102-U being the 100 Mhz model) - but since its a different brand of this 1052 type OSC the first message returned goes like:

Code: [Select]

*IDN?
     GW,GDS-1052-U,EM######,V1.05

(#masking out my devices id)
so i was wondering since this is the case i should be able to do

Code: [Select]

:INFO:MODEL GDS-1102-U (ALT010)

but for the serial number:

Code: [Select]

:INFO:SERIAL ??######
i dont know what it should be changed to so my question is:

Does anyone have a GDS-1102-U that would allow me to compare to see if i can do this mod?

if so this would be useful for other rebranded 1052 users.

Many thanks!

mrbyte · « **Reply #1165 on:** December 25, 2012, 09:42:50 pm »

Just got myself one of these scopes based on recommendations here, rally pleased with it so far.

Can you do this with firmware 00.03.01? And where can you get newer firmwares from?

Thanks

spelunker · « **Reply #1166 on:** December 26, 2012, 12:24:49 am »

Quote from: mrbyte on December 25, 2012, 09:42:50 pm

Just got myself one of these scopes based on recommendations here, rally pleased with it so far.

Can you do this with firmware 00.03.01? And where can you get newer firmwares from?

Thanks

Helllo,

I did the "upgrade" just a day or so ago.

for the hack firmware versions 00.03. and 00.04. per usb visit -> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/261138#postform

you want : 4.0to2.02.zip (3 MB, 224 Downloads) --> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/161536/4.0to2.02.zip

take your 3.01 scope up to ver 4.0 then use 4.0 to 2.02, then when you have scope upgraded to 100mz go up to ver 4.0, done..

then follow page 1 instructions from this forum to do above line instructions (take your 3.01 , etc.)

use the manual method. I received an error using the "automatic software" mentioned.

read then re-read page 1 until you know it as if you wrote it. NO skipping steps or you might brick your unit.

all in all very simple to do, takes only a few minutes.

built in calibration, only when you go back up to version 4.0 after "upgrading" takes the longest of this entire process.

have fum, this is well thought out and works very very well.

I take my hat off to all that put in a lot of their tine to put this together.

George

Fsck · « **Reply #1167 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:27:13 pm »

Quote from: michael.hill on December 06, 2012, 05:12:26 am

I can confirm I had success with mine as well. One thing to note is that while I was using the 02.02 sp2 firmware, I was NOT able to connect to the Ultrascope software. I was able to running 3.01. However, I just went ahead and ran the demoIDN software to change the model number and serial anyway. I then upgraded back to firmware 4.0 After upgrading to 4.0, I was able to connect to the Ultrascope software again. I wonder if it has to do with running Ultrascope version 00.01.08 rather than 00.01.07. I tried to find 00.01.07, but the rapidshare link in the first post is no longer working and neither does the link to Rigol's page.

Anyway, major success!

Thanks!

Uber useful post for the current "upgrader". I was sort of worried after I couldn't get it to connect using ultrascope so I just did the demoIDN blindly: without verifying USB functionality. The scope registered in ultrascope, but no remote control was allowed and the software spewed an alert of not being able to connect. As Michael said, if you have Ultrascope 00.01.08, it doesn't like to connect.

Worked perfectly! (3.01 scope base)

TMM · « **Reply #1168 on:** December 30, 2012, 08:09:41 pm »

Just modded mine, HW58 and came with 04.00 out of the box. Downgraded to 02.02.02, did the hack with demoIDN, then upgraded back to 04.00, success.

Mine screen flickered on occasion with the stock 04.00 software, and still does it after the hack.
Anyone got a mirror of 00.02.04.01.02 (link in the first post is dead)?

Interestingly, i couldn't connect with Ultrascope after downgrading to 02.02.02 either, however the version of Ultrascope i have installed (supplied with my scope) is 01.07 not 01.08

Not sure if it is to do with a having a new scope running on 02.xx FW, the fact that the firmware is hacked, a wrong version of Ultrascope or a combination of the former haha.
Thankfully it connected fine after upgrading the firmware back to 04.00.

edit: downgraded the FW to 02.04.01.02. Significantly lower noise floor and no screen flicker (yet!), Ultrascope works, very happy

michael.hill · « **Reply #1169 on:** January 02, 2013, 04:07:20 am »

I'm not sure why, but my scope started to flicker the other day. I have no idea what happened to get it to start flickering, but I just messed around with the display menu a few times, power cycled a few times and it stopped flickering (for now)...weird.

TMM · « **Reply #1170 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:23:05 pm »

On 4.0 i used to get the odd flicker (1 frame every 5 minutes or so), then sometimes it would go crazy and flicker constantly such that the display was almost unreadable - no amount of messing with settings or power cycling would stop it, the only way to fix it was to load the factory defaults from the storage menu. Mine hasn't even flickered once on 02.04 yet

The flicker that i used to have was consistent with what you would get when you try and render graphics outside of the displays resolution on most graphics LCDs - definitely a firmware issue imo.

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1171 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:53:54 am »

v3.01 up dated to 4.0 then down graded then to ds1102 then back to 4.0. I now have a 100mhz scope

the rigupgl https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/changing-the-rigol-ds1052e-to-ds1102e-using-usb-the-dummy-guide/msg19727/#msg19727 is the way to go. I just knoticed I forgot to set the HW version, How important is this?

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1172 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:36:08 am »

I set the HW number was not to hard to figure out demoIDN.

DavidGoncalv · « **Reply #1173 on:** January 16, 2013, 06:58:57 pm »

I'm having a hard time either following the download links for the firmware on the Page 1 instructions, or picking out from the latest posts what the whole process it. Can somebody point me to a complete summary of the process and the latest downloads?

DavidGoncalv · « **Reply #1174 on:** January 16, 2013, 10:31:03 pm »

Muddled through it - I think I've got it. Did the German process - Up to 4.0, down to 2.02, make the MODEL and SERIAL changes manually with the DemoIDN tool, then back up to 4.0.

What has been the way folks are checking out the 100 MHz performance?


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