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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2925 on: September 23, 2016, 12:42:55 pm »
Even faster than you think  ;D

Looks like there's a bug in your rar extractor. I see "2016" in mine.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2926 on: September 23, 2016, 12:46:57 pm »
Just checked the extended system info (menu,menu,force,menu) on my recently purchased 1054Z and I get the following versions:-

Software 00.04.04.00.07

That's the previous one.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2927 on: September 23, 2016, 12:52:30 pm »
Just checked the extended system info (menu,menu,force,menu) on my recently purchased 1054Z and I get the following versions:-

Software 00.04.04.00.07

That's the previous one.

completely misread the figures  :palm: thanks...
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2929 on: September 23, 2016, 01:34:59 pm »
Just checked the extended system info (menu,menu,force,menu) on my recently purchased 1054Z and I get the following versions:-

Software 00.04.04.00.07
Firmware 0.2.3.11

So a little confused as to what the latest actually is?

From the Update Release Notes in the "new"  .rar file linked by ted572 above:
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2930 on: September 23, 2016, 04:45:53 pm »
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2931 on: September 23, 2016, 05:02:40 pm »
Is there an updated bug list now?

I have a vague recollection that there is still Pluses spelling and a couple things about offset math trace, but I forget which one now, one of the filters or something about when downloaded via scpi?



 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2932 on: September 23, 2016, 05:19:42 pm »
I have a vague recollection that there is still Pluses spelling and a couple things about offset math trace, but I forget which one now, one of the filters or something about when downloaded via scpi?

It's all a lie. There's no new version (yet!)

I actually downloaded it without looking too hard at the number. When I plugged in the USB stick in it gave me the "That's the same version as before!" message.   :-DD

This version is the one that fixed the RMS bug.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2933 on: September 23, 2016, 05:27:01 pm »
Do any of these fix the lockup bug that some of us are afflicted with?   For reference, there's a thread on the issue here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1054z-freeze-up-bug/
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2934 on: September 23, 2016, 05:44:46 pm »
Do any of these fix the lockup bug that some of us are afflicted with?   For reference, there's a thread on the issue here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1054z-freeze-up-bug/

Yes. I believe that was fixed in the previous update.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2935 on: September 23, 2016, 07:34:21 pm »
I have a vague recollection that there is still Pluses spelling and a couple things about offset math trace, but I forget which one now, one of the filters or something about when downloaded via scpi?

It's all a lie. There's no new version (yet!)

I actually downloaded it without looking too hard at the number. When I plugged in the USB stick in it gave me the "That's the same version as before!" message.   :-DD

This version is the one that fixed the RMS bug.

Yes, I'm all up to speed with that, including the fact that you're not reading this thread.  :P  :-DD

I have yet to install the latest FW though.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2936 on: September 23, 2016, 09:59:43 pm »
I have a vague recollection that there is still Pluses spelling and a couple things about offset math trace

Correct on those two being outstanding issues at this point. I installed the latest the first time around and so far, so good.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2937 on: September 23, 2016, 10:32:44 pm »
Does anyone know if there's possible to multiply the input signal by a fixed constant, rather than multiplying two channels. I want to measure the voltage drop across a 0.33R resistor, and then calculate the current. In this case I'll need to multiply by a factor of 3. I _could_ use a 0.2R resistor instead and enable the X5 probe setting, but hey, that's cheating ;)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2938 on: September 23, 2016, 11:01:53 pm »
I'm not in front of my scope at the moment, but try the following:

Math, Operator, A+B, set A to the desired channel, set B to fx
Math, Options, fx Operator, A+B, set A to the same channel as above, set B to the same channel as A

A+(A+B) = 3*A
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2939 on: September 23, 2016, 11:04:04 pm »
To multiply, say, Ch1 by a fixed amount, use Math, Operator, A*B, set A to Ch1, set B to Ch2. Apply a DC voltage to Ch2 equal to the desired factor.
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2940 on: September 24, 2016, 09:57:53 am »
My firmware is 04.03 SP1 (00.04.03.01.05).
Board version: 0.0.1
Boot version: 0.0.1.2
Firmware version: 0.2.3.11

I read that new versions of firmware don't allow you to downgrade and make the scope less responsive, so I haven't updated for a long time. Is it still true for the latest firmware?
My scope has no freeze bug or any other issues, but I want the pulse counter and faster FFT ::)
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2941 on: September 24, 2016, 10:48:45 am »
pulse counter? you mean pluse, right? ;)
faster FFT? since when? you have full memory fft instead of screen memory fft, which is not really faster
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2942 on: September 24, 2016, 11:12:56 am »
Well, I don't really care if it's "pluses", as long as it counts them right ;)
For some reason I thought I've seen "faster FFT" in changelogs somewhere. It's strange that they made full memory FFT, but left all the protocol decoders restricted to on-screen memory. I guess this was done on purpose to make higher end models more attractive.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2943 on: September 24, 2016, 11:35:03 am »
Well, I don't really care if it's "pluses", as long as it counts them right ;)
For some reason I thought I've seen "faster FFT" in changelogs somewhere. It's strange that they made full memory FFT, but left all the protocol decoders restricted to on-screen memory. I guess this was done on purpose to make higher end models more attractive.

I assume this is because FFT is applied as a calculation like adding, multiplying, or filtering while the decoders and automatic measurements only work through the display record for whatever reason; maybe they would be too slow otherwise.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2944 on: September 24, 2016, 03:20:27 pm »
I read that new versions of firmware don't allow you to downgrade and make the scope less responsive, so I haven't updated for a long time. Is it still true for the latest firmware?
My scope has no freeze bug or any other issues, but I want the pulse counter and faster FFT ::)

Not everybody had the freeze bug.

I don't recall ever thinking "What the hell happened to the vertical response???" after an upgrade.

OTOH the vertical response does depend a lot on your knob technique so maybe I'm not seeing it as much as other people.

I made a video of the "new" response in this thread along with a comparison of different knob techniques:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/the-ds1054z-vertical-response-discussion-thread/

If you've still got the "old" response it would interesting to compare it. Maybe you could make a similar video with your 'scope and post it in there for posterity.


(yes I said "knob technique")
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2945 on: September 24, 2016, 03:55:36 pm »
Think I'm bang up to date now, so the latest firmware date was 23rd Aug 2016 according to the build date...
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2946 on: September 24, 2016, 04:34:18 pm »
Think I'm bang up to date now, so the latest firmware date was 23rd Aug 2016 according to the build date...

Yes, you are now current. :-+
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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2947 on: September 24, 2016, 05:47:07 pm »
@StuUK
  Where did you get the files you used for the update?  The files available at http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/fs/blocks/showLandingPage/a/1579/p/p-0019/t/page/fm/0 are older.
 

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2948 on: September 24, 2016, 05:50:31 pm »
@StuUK
  Where did you get the files you used for the update?  The files available at http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/fs/blocks/showLandingPage/a/1579/p/p-0019/t/page/fm/0 are older.

Aren't you looking for this:

There is NEW Firmware available now for the MSO/DS1000Z Oscilloscopes
FW Version: 00.04.04.01.01
Released: 2016/09/14
 o  Added support for the multi-inteface of LXI
 o  Fixed bugs with Auto-Measurement functions

http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar

Edit:  I see now (thanks to 'alsetalokin4017') that 'IAmBack' reported this firmware release in 'Reply #2878' on September 14, 2016.  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1026216/#msg1026216   I don't know how I missed seeing this. :palm:   If you go back and read the reply's after his post you will see responses to the fixes.

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Re: New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope
« Reply #2949 on: September 24, 2016, 08:10:58 pm »
@StuUK
  Where did you get the files you used for the update?  The files available at http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/fs/blocks/showLandingPage/a/1579/p/p-0019/t/page/fm/0 are older.

From here:-  http://int.rigol.com/Support/SoftDownload/3

Just click on the 1000Z link which at the moment the latest is this one http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar




 


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